I can’t think of a plausible scenario where North Carolina would decide the presidential election. But it sure would be nice to win it again. Recent polls there have been mixed. Public Policy Polling had Obama up by one point, SurveyUSA had him up by four, and the pro-GOP Rasmussen had Romney up by eight points. Of course, the Democratic National Convention will take place in Charlotte, for whatever that’s worth. I think it’s clear that the Obama campaign thought a state they won by less than 15,000 votes needed a little boost. But it’s not going to be easy:
One senior North Carolina Democrat, who insisted on anonymity because of involvement in multiple statewide and legislative campaigns, said private polling in a variety of state races shows that white voters and independents are trending toward Republicans in an alarming way.
“The biggest thing Obama has got to overcome here is his problems with white independent voters, those middle-of-the-road voters,” the Democrat said. “If he doesn’t, we are going to get our asses whipped like I have never seen in my 20 years of doing politics.”
The Democrat predicted a “bloodbath” for the party in November if those numbers fail to tighten.
Holding the convention in Charlotte, this person said, might make for an exciting week but will do little to push the state in Obama’s direction: “I’m glad that it’s here for sheer state pride, but is it going to make much difference at Wilber’s Barbecue in Goldsboro?”
In 2008, Obama lost independents to McCain in the Tarheel State. He won because the Republicans had 31% turnout and he turned out a massive amount of new voters, including hordes of college students. He was also more convincing with North Carolina’s students than he was nationally:
The share of voters under 30 was the same in North Carolina as it was nationally.
But thanks in large part to the stout organizational efforts of the Obama campaign on more than 100 college campuses across the state, voters between 18 and 29 chose Obama over McCain by a stunning 74%-26% margin.
If that split more closely resembled the youth vote nationwide — 66% for Obama and 32% for McCain — roughly 60,000 North Carolina votes would have swung to McCain, handing him the state and its 15 electoral votes.
McCain was close to the worst candidate you could possibly pitch to college students in 2008, and his anti-intellectual running-mate didn’t help matters. But I don’t think Romney has much appeal either. He doesn’t have a cool bone in his body. Still, if he came out for decriminalizing weed, he’d win North Carolina in a walk.
Boo:
What they don’t mention, and how big this plays I don’t know, is that the N.C. Democratic Party is a complete mess right now. The Party chair won’t resign even after most all elected officials demanded that he do so. I also doubt that white Indies see Mittens as anything.
the article does mention that. Just not the part I quoted.
Romney is is like Bernie in Weekend at Bernie’s. I can’t tell if he is alive.
Romney decriminalizing weed? He’s still miffed that they lifted Prohibition.
Yeah, he’d probably cut your hair for that.
Well, you’re right that Romney isn’t cool. But, he won’t have a Palin dragging him down. That alone will make him more of an acceptable alternative.
I think coming out for decriminalizing weed would help Obama even more than his support for gay marriage among the younger crowd.
Experiences in my NC household indicate that, as well. My then 18-year old was excited to vote for Obama in 2008, but has since decided that all politicians are the same and participating in the sham of the two-party system is fruitless. It’ll be a hard sell to get him to vote this year. Sigh.
Also, voter suppression efforts (oops, I mean voter ID laws) have bigtime effects in a state like NC where most of the liberal college students at the various schools have failed to change their voter info to reflect state residency, at least part of the year, and they aren’t motivated enough to vote by absentee ballot in their home states. They were excited 4 years ago. Now?…….not so much.
“If he doesn’t, we are going to get our asses whipped like I have never seen in my 20 years of doing politics.”
I don’t get this. Isn’t “getting our asses whipped” the normal state of affairs for Democrats in North Carolina, with 2008 standing out as a big exception?
Ummm. No.
You’re thinking federal and specifically presidential elections. That guy is concerned about losing seats all over the state, even if Obama wins, because he’s doing so badly with white independent voters. If Obama wins it will be cleaning up the Research Triangle and among college students throughout the state, plus doing well in the cities and getting huge black turnout. But all his votes will be concentrated in compact areas, meaning relatively few districts will actually be voting for him.
The Democratic Party has owned North Carolina forever. That changed two years ago, and it doesn’t look it’s going change back, regardless of how Obama does.
Yeah .. but the Dems in 1896 aren’t the same as now .. back then .. they still had a lot of the racist element .. hell .. that’s what most of the southern Blue Dogs are .. if you want to get down to brass tacks