While it’s still too early for the Obama administration to be doing any end zone celebrations, it looks like Chuck Hagel will be confirmed as Secretary of Defense next week. I wonder what his opponents think they have accomplished?
Who are his opponents, anyway?
Obviously, there are those who don’t want to see Israel criticized ever, even a little, by any government official. But these are really some extreme cases. Within the Jewish community, at least, no one of significance has had much of a problem with Hagel. If he’s good enough for Chuck Schumer and his constituents, he can’t be bad for U.S.-Israel relations.
There are the neo-conservatives like Sens. McCain and Graham, who don’t want anyone who opposes them running the Pentagon.
But the biggest source of opposition comes from Republicans who don’t like turncoats who go from being a colleague one day to a harsh critic the next. I understand. I wouldn’t be too thrilled with Zell Miller running the Pentagon. The difference is that Zell Miller is one Mint Julip away from a murder-suicide incident. He’s unstable.
But what was gained by all these attacks? Did they make it less likely that ambitious people will question Israel’s settler policy in the future? I honestly don’t know the answer to that question. They may have proven that such criticism is more acceptable than previously thought.
Did they make neo-conservatism more popular? I’d argue that they merely made it more urgent for Hagel to purge those types of people from the Pentagon.
Did they make it less likely that future Republicans would defect from the party? In the foreign policy/national security realm, I’d argue the opposite. They drove respectable people out of the Republican Party with their treatment of Hagel. Couple it with Dick Lugar’s primary defeat, and I’d say that they GOP no longer has any realist establishment at all. Obama has brought them over.
Maybe Hagel will be somewhat weakened in the Pentagon, but I just don’t see how that can balance out in the favor of the people who made a giant stink about his nomination.
Filibustering him also created a nasty precedent that could easily come back to bite his opponents. We didn’t have to let John Ashcroft become Attorney General, after all. He didn’t have 60 supporters in the Senate.
It’s not just that Hagel’s opposition has been reprehensible in their behavior and rhetoric; it’s that they don’t seem to have accomplished anything with their antics. They weakened themselves. They made themselves look like half-beserk losers.
Just like they did with their 33 votes to repeal ObamaCare; their debt ceiling tantrums and their fiscal cliff histrionics. Just like they soon will on VAWA, gun control, and immigration.
The wingnut Koch-heads wouldn’t listen to Boehner in 2011 and now they’re committed to obstructing the President to try to “win”/embarrass him…until they finally face reality and capitulate on the president’s well-chosen political issues/skewers.
Barring a democratic collapse, the rudderless, disconnected GOTP is done as a national party.
And yet the House is still an unlikely longshoot and while a hold is more likely than not in the Senate, the Dems are under the gun again.
This regional party sure threatens to control congress.
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Mint Julip.
Darn auto correct.
Heh.
Auto correct turned it into tulip in the first place.
Mint Tulip is way cooler, though: Google it at an image. Awwwww. The Pentagon could use more of those.
They ARE ‘half-berserk losers’.
They are now just like Bush, no matter what they do, no matter how many elections they win, they will ALWAYS be losers.
Even the ‘friends’ I have on Facebook that post their charming posters, losers.
The whole republican party, from top to the very bottom of the barrel gun fetishist has become loserdom.
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Losing big fights make you weaker. This is what Obama has always known, and why he never picks fights he can’t win.
But Republicans still don’t understand. Hagel is but the latest example. They force their leaders to fight major unwinnable battle after unwinnable battle. They are too arrogant to accept the possibility they might lose and in blinds them to their own obvious weaknesses.
They are walking like lemmings into a very deep, generation-long trench.
“Half”?
Hearing themselves grumble and lash out makes them feel relevant in a way that mere mouth breathing and drool running down their chins cannot match.
What a big FAIL, eh? Obama’s approval is still 52% on Gallup & Rasmussen today so they didn’t hurt him either. It had been down to 50% on gallup but went up today.
Jennifer Rubin is obsessive about killing Hagel. She’s the only one still giving Kill Hagel 100%. She’s constantly smearing & lying by omission about his Record. To no avail it seems. You should check out her Cranky blog at WaPo for a good laugh. Of course, Adelson, Kristol, Lauder, & other Richies are still funding whatever someone suggests. At one point, at least six different organizations were running ads against Hagel. I don’t remember this happening in the past. Weird times…
I’m a Fan of Hagel’s from the Bush years. My hubby used to have Cspan on 24/7 during those times. Hagel was disgusted by Iraq & other things I agreed with so I’m happy about Hagel. Hope he makes it!
Agree. See my comment below for a Hagel video and earlier diaries on the nomination.
On the Palestinian issue and the Middle-East foreign policy, Obama relied too much on Hillary Clinton and her neocon advisors from the past. The new appointments of Kerry-Brennan-Hagel will be more in line to what Obama needs to achieve. The battle in US Congress is basically a last Republican stand to prevent change from the old regime of pacifying AIPAC and Israeli politicians. The discussion in Jerusalem on US foreign policy by rising-star Marco Rubio was not only sad but laughable at its shallowness.
Why are they giving in now? What did they accomplish? You are right. If they stayed unified and rejected Hagel again and again until Obama gave up, then they would have won something. This way they look like indecisive assholes.
Now that they have whipped up their base into believing that Hagel is a coward, an anti-Semite (funny, most of them are), and a Muslim sympathizing traitor, they will feel the backlash from confirming him.
To them this propaganda is a game to be turned on and off. They forget their nutcase supporters believe it. Like the Tea Party itself, they have created a Frankenstein that will come back to haunt them.
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Cross-posted from my recent diary – Peace Will Be the Nail In Netanyahu’s Coffin.
The only thing I can think they accomplished is that they slowed down Obama a little. Which if you look at things right now as fighting to hold off communism or whatever then its an accomplishment. Besides, they they feel they don’t have to worry about elections for another 6 years or so, so why should they care how it looks.
Besides, opposing everything the Black guy says means they don’t have to waste time in interviews trying to invent reasons why Paul Ryans latest budget horror is a good idea.
What did they gain? Well, they don’t give a damn about governing or the country or Israel (other than as a player in their end days scenarios).
They care about their own fortunes, feathering their nests in the government they claim to despise and will do anything to continue to batten off of. They postured, they preened, they pontificated.
They got footage and soundbites for future campaign ads designed to appeal to an angry, bigoted, not too bright base and willing to believe any lie they are told to believe. That is what they got.
It warns off other Republicans who might be asked to join the administration that GOP Senators will not give a free pass. Shutting down Obama’s bipartisan image has been a big priority of the GOP for over four years.
The President already has that reputation as bi-partisan, so if he never appoints another Republican I doubt that will change.
So did they really accomplish anything on that front?
I think the answer to that is in TarheelDem’s first sentence:
“It warns off other Republicans who might be asked to join the administration that GOP Senators will not give a free pass.”
I don’t think it does, otherwise I wouldn’t have said anything but okay.
Interesting. So you don’t think Ray LaHood would have thought twice if he had been nominated after they put Hagel through the ringer?
It would certainly make me think twice. I think it would make me consider not accepting the nomination. It might also piss me off so much that I would go through with it anyway.
But either way, I think it would impact my decision. Not that I would ever be nominated for any cabinet position, obviously!
The President has already earned his bi-partisan cred with the public. If he never appoints another Republican he’s not going to lose that, so moving forward I would guess you’ll see almost no more Republicans nominated.
So they get nothing but nominees that are all Democrats.
That’s all I was trying to say.
All of the responses above seem to be making the same point: The R’s are warning off the R’s from being an R.
Doesn’t this remind anyone but me of the Democrats of the early to mid-60’s? That was not one party. It was two separate parties joined at the hip by political expediency.
In this day and age of instant communications, you can’t change your message from community to community. The political expediency of the AmericanNativist crowd + gun nutz + war with the MiddleEast + Save the Rich is coming apart at the seams.
The difference is that many of the remaining R’s in public office are batshit crazy … and ALL of the R’s newly running for office are certifiable.
Let’s face it: South Carolina isn’t the most stable environment, politically speaking. Lindsay Graham has to be scared right down to his mani-pedi by the prospect of facing a Tea Bagger challenge in the 2014 primary.
Will it be enough? You gotta figure there’s at least some nostalgia in the Palmetto State for that towering colossus of the Senate, Jim DeMint. Graham has to curry favor, or at least neutrality, from that wing of his party, and his unreasoning opposition to the Hagel nomination might be just the feather in his cap.
I can only assume that they decided that they needed to do this for their primary voters and funders.
Who are his opponents, anyway?
the MIC, of which the Likud Lobby is but a small subsidiary.