I don’t necessarily disagree with the Washington Post Editorial Board’s position on the inappropriateness of calling James Rosen a potential co-conspirator in the unlawful disclosure of classified information, but I don’t appreciate them mischaracterizing the DOJ’s position. Contrary to the Post‘s assertions, the DOJ did not tell the judge that Rosen merely asked for information and used flattery to obtain it. They pointed out that Rosen concocted a plan to make covert communications possible, including the use pseudonyms, pseudonymous email accounts, and secret symbols.
Within the insular Beltway, it’s considered preposterous that James Rosen might have been spying against his own government, especially on behalf of North Korea. And I think it is probably preposterous. I don’t think Rosen’s lame and ineffectual attempts at spy-craft indicate any sophisticated training, nor do I think they are especially unusual methods for reporters who work on national security.
However, we should at least take this case into the realm of the hypothetical. Since intelligence agencies prefer to use reporters as official cover in many cases, and since reporters who work on national security are prime recruitment opportunities, our counterespionage people have to take into account the possibility that a leak is not just a leak. When they uncover a reporter engaging in spy-craft in order to manipulate a source and to conceal their tracks, they need to investigate.
Just because a reporter seems like a known quantity, if the damage from the leak is significant enough and the reporting is irresponsible enough, the FBI pretty much has to take a look at it.
So, basically, the Washington Post just made me less likely to agree with them because they didn’t seem to understand what the actual stakes were. Just because James Rosen isn’t a North Korean intelligence asset (or the dupe of one) doesn’t mean that he isn’t stupid enough to do just as much damage as if he were.
Damn! Why do I need to view Russia Today for this interview? Putin’s nation one of the worst offenders of freedom of the press and a murderous regime killing opposition members.
Well, ok. A similar article in the New York Magazine.
There. Weren’t. Any. Wiretaps. Not. One.
If you can’t a basic fact like that correct, then everything else is worthless.
Sorry, her gut says there were wiretaps.
Case closed.
Why you feel the need to consume the output of Vladimir Putin’s propaganda outfit is, indeed, a troubling question.
Yeah – a diversity in news sources is certainly bad for your enlightenment. Stick with the trad med of America!
Sad that you think a Kremlin propaganda organ is the only alternative to CNN.
go fight ’em
Attempting to inject some sense into threads you seek to take over does seem like something Don Quixote would do, but I just keep at it.
I simply noted that you were at your usual delightfully dismissive and dickish behavior.
But never mind. Rah, rah!
I’m stunned to discover that my point sailed over your head.
Let’s try again: Sad that you thin a Kremlin propaganda operation is the only alternative to CNN.
Your comment was simply too idiotic to take seriously.
You’ve nothing but strawmen. True to form.
… must be from Joe!
Where “worthless” is defined as “anything I don’t like.”
Keep up the non-communication communication Joe!
Sorry I’m not rising to the high standards of “Such a useless comment must be from Joe.”
Worthless as in a comment with no substance and you didn’t bother to comprehend the article I linked plus the two additional links to The New York Times and the New York Magazine.
Just don’t bother to add any of your “comments” Joe. It’s damn irritating and for me to reply is like talking to the diningroom table.
What I bothered to comprehend was your argument – the one you so effectively refuted on your own by posting those other links – that only the brave truth-tellers at the Putin propaganda office are willing to cover that story.
Thanks for the assist in demonstrating the worthlessness of Russia Today. They don’t even, as you initially asserted but then refuted, bring anything novel or unusual to the discussion.
And really, doing this is no bother. No bother at all.
Care to comment or just throwing a “2” at me?
The problem with both those articles is that they tend to conflate all these incidents. The Pentagon Papers was a case in which the journalist exposed deliberate lies of senior officials (and we’re not talking about diplomatic lies here) – and the Papers were essentially historical accounts. The Rosen situation was not whistleblowing in any sense. There was no exposure of corruption. What is more the Rosen case was about events that were happening at the time – hot situations. A valuable intelligence source was compromised.
The motives for the leaks matter. The context matters. And as Booman says, the actual stakes matter.
Freedom of the press is critical for this nation. But we also have a press that is often lazy, self serving and bought by their monied owners. A little more responsibility would be nice.
Can you imagine the outrage by the media, especially by the AIPAC WaPo editorial page if Fox had leaked secrets of Israeli penetrations in Syria or Iran.
You would never hear the end of it.
But it’s only an actual nuclear state like North Korea, so who cares.
So why did they arrest him? Why not just kill him with a drone? After all, they say it’s national security and he’s plotting and it’s wartime and all. Why the show trial and not just a quick murder? Is it ethnicity? Or religion? If you are a Muslim Arab or Pakistani, you die. If you are a Jew, you go to trial.
Because he’s neither a combatant in a war, nor located overseas.
You do understand that not everything involving national security is an act of war, right?
You do understand that we’re not at war with North Korea, right?
You do understand that we are not at war with anyone, don’t you.
Actually, being a literate person, I am in fact aware of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_Against_Terrorists
It’s 2013. That was passed eleven and a half years ago.
You really should know that this exists at point.
There’s another layer to this story that I haven’t seen written about, or, maybe I’ve missed it – where were his Editors?
A reporter, or, should I say a “good” reporter, knows there are certain situations that call for self-editing.
And then, (at least before all of these budget cuts in the news businesses) there are Editors, who oversee the reporters work, and make suggestions as far as priorities, grammar, verbiage, etc.
Those Editors should also be checking for veracity, and to make sure that, especially in the case of a reporter working on national security issues, nothing is revealed that shouldn’t be revealed.
This reporter, whether it was intentional or not – and I suspect, NOT – “outed” that his source came from inside North Korea. Specifically! In his story!
That revelation not only may have endangered THAT sources life, but the lives of innocent others, as the regime went on a witch-hunt.
And that revelation, also cost America not just THAT source as an asset, but others in other nations, who realized that they could also be compromised.
My question is, where were the Editors?
Any real journalistic endeavor has Editors, who could have, or should have, edited Rosen’s story, so that, while the information in it was released to the public, it didn’t potentially do damage to this nation’s security.
So, again, where were the Editors?
Oh yeah…
Never mind – it was FOX “News.”
FOX doesn’t do “journalism” – it does “propaganda.”
It doesn’t have journalistic standards – only propagandistic ones.
On the plus side for them, FOX can now do what it does best, whine, bitch, and play the victim – with the extra-added plus, of screaming and pointing at the Obama Administration, while shrieking about “Tyranny.”
FOX, and right-wing talk radio, have done more damage to the country, and democracy, than any of the “Fifth Columnists” that everyone was worried about back in the mid 20th Century, could ever have imagined.
BooMan:
Actually, it’s not at all beyond the realm of possibility that Rosen was spying for SOUTH Korea, and there’s reason to think so–or, at least, that the government has reason to say they have reason to think so.
In the discovery correspondence Ryan Lizza posted last week, Stephen Kim’s lawyers seemed especially concerned about some unstated theory of motive the prosecution was pursuing; that’s probably “works for foreign country.” And the prosecution subpoenaed records from both the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and a California Bank noted for ties to Korea and the Korean-American community
You could be the only well-known liberal on the web taking the view that it is logically possible for a journo to cross the line and irresponsibly, and even illegally, violate national security – with which I heartily agree.
Kudos.