For me, the problem with CNN goes back at least a decade and a half, and it can be summed up by saying that they have always relied too much on real insiders. They like to hire people who have served in the White House or as head of one of the two main political parties, or as high-ranking campaign advisers. I suppose that the other cable networks are guilty of this, too, just to a lesser degree. I think one of the more interesting things you can do is to take someone who has never served in any capacity in politics or in Washington, and ask them what they think of the bullshit they are being served. I think this is what makes Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz and Chris Hayes and Ezra Klein more interesting than Lawrence O’Donnell or Karl Rove or James Carville or Donna Brazille or Paul Begala.
I suppose even Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity bring a fresher perspective than David Gergen and Alex Castellanos. CNN‘s real sin was to rely on party hacks from both parties, thereby expressing agnosticism about the truth while putting partisan gibberish on a pedestal. Obviously, the Crossfire show set the standard for this kind of assault on reasoned discourse.
I agree that CNN needed to be to the go-to network for breaking news and then find a formula to compete in slow news cycles. Their model should have been a rolling 60 Minutes type of investigative journalism of the kind that isn’t totally time-sensitive. That way, they could roll out their product on an as-needed basis. They didn’t need to be Frontline, but they needed to be about hard-hitting news. They let Larry King hang around forever, pretending to be anything more than a suck-up. And then they replaced him with the even more loathsome Piers Morgan. I could pick a professor at random from the faculty list of Northern Iowa University and come up with someone more insightful and stimulating to the national debate than Piers Morgan.
My problem with CNN isn’t really that they chase ratings over substance. My problem is that they employ uninteresting, unprovocative, brown-nosers. And, when they go provocative, they go for nativists like Lou Dobbs, Dana Loesch, and Glenn Beck. Erick Erickson is their idea of anti-establishment.
I can’t remember the last time CNN had a real scoop. The best I can remember is that actual news took place on their network, like during a debate they happened to be hosting, or during an interview they conducted. But reporters digging something up on the beat? I have nothing in my memory banks.
The idea that someone would go to Wolf Blitzer with sensitive information is laughable. The network has no edge. As horrendously awful as the Washington Post is and has been for quite some time, they’ve broken real news through the reporting of Barton Gellman, Dana Priest, and Walter Pincus. CNN has done nothing.
But, hey, bring back Crossfire. That’s bound to work.
I think this has yet to be topped…
Stephen Colbert Takes CNN’s Virtual Convention To The Next Level
Now you’re just being unfair. They were the first out the gate with the news that the Supreme Court had struck down Obamacare!
Exactly. It gave me one of the best hits of the 2012 election:
Are we back to wanting scoops and leaks this week? I imagine the obots will have no concerns about this leak “compromising diplomacy in a sensitive region and endangering American lives overseas.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/09/world/asia/frustrated-obama-considers-full-troop-withdrawal-from-a
fghanistan.html?hp&gwh=5A8A5062445EC3C82A39F92F453D272A
I actually don’t have a problem if an outlet like CNN wants to be seen as sympathetic to government and political officials. Not everybody needs to be a hardnosed investigative antagonist. But then, if CNN wants to invest in the state, it needs to invest in the success of that state. CNN’s problem is that it does the usual immaturity of resenting public servants for their public service and goes through this endless cycle of sucking up to them to their face, and cutting them down behind their backs. I’d like to see more outlets talk about what’s good about the US government sometimes.
The US is one of the global leaders in cutting carbon emissions. We’re cutting like 3.5% every year. That’s pretty cool (and historic). Is it enough? Does it change the global equation? Who’s opposed to further action and why? You can (and must) ask further questions beyond it, obviously, but if somebody wants to be a mainstream, establishment voice, they should use that power to occasionally explain why the mainstream establishment is worth supporting beyond the ability to get into good cocktail parties.
Sure seems like an indirect message to Karzai (one of those familiar officially-sanctioned leaks) than something real. “Look, Hamid, I’m telling my people that we are out of there completely unless you allow some immunity from prosecution for US personnel, including the CIA translator you just detained for torture.”
That’s why there’s silence from government quarters.
Don’t tell the GOP about that carbon emissions figure.
Good points, Bazooka Joe.
CNN started sucking when it ceased being a news network. That was about the time that Peter Arnett got savaged for actually reporting the Gulf War from Baghdad.
CNN used to be a continuous news hour of lots of stories from around the world, solid analysis, and different perspectives. Now there are two versions, one mediocre international version and one highly sanitized for Americans version.
They don’t need pundits and personalities, they need field staff and reporters. And investigative journalists and researchers.
That was Ted Turner’s idea of a niche. They should go back to it.
CNN started sucking when it ceased being a news network. That was about the time that Peter Arnett got savaged for actually reporting the Gulf War from Baghdad.
Yes, yes and yes.
So, transporting back to 1991. CNN had two networks – CNN and CNN Headline News. Both had international flavors. They were solid news organizations in the classic sense. Lots of original reporting, lots of feet on the ground internationally. Headline news was a continually-repeating half hour news show, including short bits for sports and weather. CNN had 4 or 5 “news hours” per day interspersed with various shows like Crossfire or Larry King. And most of the negative reputation that Crossfire has now – cemented with Jon Stewart’s brilliant death blow in 2004 – was earned in later years. The 1991 version was much more thoughtful with time given to develop arguments and give guests a chance to properly respond to questions.
The first Gulf War was CNN’s all time peak. For a month people went home and instead of watching usual prime time fare watched the war. And CNN was so far ahead of the other networks. One of the famous advertisements of the time for CNN was a quote from the Egyptian head of state (Mubarek) saying that he got most of his info on the war from CNN.
But the Peter Arnett aspect was huge – both for why CNN was so outstanding and why CNN fell so fast. Arnett went around Iraq, with full permission from Iraqi authorities, and reported on what he saw. What he saw, of course, was a 3rd world country being bombed back to the stone age by the most massive war machine ever assembled. Americans REALLY wanted to believe that they were on the side of pure good – that surgical strikes were exactly as described – that only evil people got blown up by our bombs, etc. Yes, without doubt the Iraqi authorities were very happy to take Arnett’s crew to see the worst damage for their own propoganda purposes, but the damage was real. When Arnett finally returned to the states he was bowled over by the negative reaction he received. He lasted a little while longer but the fuse was short and the first excuse pushed him out.
So, CNN who had been quietly doing great reporting while building a loyal, upscale, attractive-to-advertisers, but small international base of viewers suddenly was shifted into the mainstream and they received tons of accolades. But they also were put under two kinds of pressures that ultimately killed quality cable news. First, no more Arnett’s. Only provide news that fits what the viewers want to see/hear. Second, being a break-even operation was fine when your role was help fill up a cable TV lineup when there weren’t that many channels, but after the 1991 war cable news was seen as a big profit center.
Every event after that was treated as the next gulf war. 1992 election. Waco. OJ. Oklahoma City. The push for profits meant that budgets for original reporting were slashed – so all those feet on the ground breaking news were slowly replaced with in-studio talking heads.
Meanwhile, talk shows were gaining in popularity on cable, with Jerry Springer showing that shouting people got more viewers than calm ones. In 1994 MTV, struggling with ratings because most new videos were rap but most of their audience was not into rap, launched the first modern reality show and dramatically changed everything about TV. Fox News launched in 1996 with more shouting. MSNBC responded, removing quite hosts like Charles Grodin for shouters like Tweety.
And on top of that, the one person who might have kept CNN on its original mission – perhaps the most unlikely and unexpected hero of the 20th century – sold out and lost control. I mean, of course, Ted Turner.
In this environment CNN didn’t stand a chance. New owners who cared only about profits and ratings. No network leader like a Cronkite who could desperately fight to keep the original news vision intact. Of course they turned to pure reactive mode. New TV graphics that filled the screen, hosts designed to fight for the conservative audience who dominates cable TV viewership, replacing local reporters with video feeds from local stations, emphasis on controversy and shouting over depth and analysis.
Sad. Very sad.
Well said. And so I have to ask…
….why would Booman think this would lead to anything but CNN closing shop 5 years ago?
It’s funny to think about it now .. but Oprah has been around .. nationally .. for 20+ years now .. and there was one time .. although only for like 3 to 6 months .. where Springer beat Oprah in the ratings
I don’t think CNN sucks! Just sayin’ http://linkapp.me/g1g9m
CNN has begun running “prison stories ” on the weekend.
Castellanos is a GOP hack; his statements as an “analyst” are grating but unsurprising. OTOH, David Gergen’s Obama-bashing, hippie-punching and studious ignorance of GOP radicalism, all clothed in pained “bipartisanship”, fills me more every day with a white-hot hatred. Gergen is the essence of Beltway bullshit, and when CNN gets rid of him it will be a sign the network’s values have improved.
I find Lawrence O’Donnell to be THE most watchable guy on the whole network. He was THE ONLY one on MSNBC who called the IRS story bullshit from the beginning.
In fact I’m suprised Booman would shit on him since most of his opinions on whatever Obama is up to usually line right up with Booman, while every other show is an hour of poutrage.
And with all of the problems with CNN, they are now beating MSNBC, and Chris Hayes is just tanking.
It’s a shame Hayes is tanking in that slot. I found his weekend show to be very insightful with great guests and themes. Maybe weeknight doesn’t work so well for that?
I think it’s more that weekend viewers are different than nightly 7pm primetime viewers.
Hayes is still playing for those weekend viewers and therefore hemorrhaging primetime viewers, and causing Maddow’s ratings to tank as well, since Hayes is such a poor lead-in