Both sides of the political divide like to heap abuse on politicians who position themselves near the middle. DINOs and RINOs, we like to call them. And I think the abuse is sometimes warranted. On the other hand, I think that, overall, the Democratic and Republican senators that we have serving in the middle right now are a better cast of characters than the ones we had in the Bush Era or the early stages of the Obama administration. Gone are infuriating personas like Evan Bayh, Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson, Kent Conrad, Blanche Lincoln, and Arlen Specter. They are replaced with folks like Amy Klobuchar, Angus King, Joe Donnelly, Heidi Heitkamp, Kelly Ayotte, and Mike Johanns.
Even the most conservative Democrat, Joe Manchin of West Virginia (who goes off message and off the reservation with regularity), seems to have a lot of basic integrity. Alaskan Senator Lisa Murkowski was defeated in a Republican primary and won the general election as a write-in candidate. She seems to have been liberated by the experience.
There are still some leftovers from the Bush Era who have the ability to annoy, like Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Susan Collins of Maine, and John McCain is like a national rash that won’t go away, but the middle of the Senate is a more congenial place than it used to be, populated by people who seem to have more common sense than in the past.
And this matters, because once this shutdown crisis is over, the Senate will return to regular order and compromises will need to be hashed out. Over the last several years, compromises have proved impossible, but that may be about to change. If there was a point to this whole fiasco, it was to prove that compromises have to be made. The public will not tolerate more gridlock.
And it doesn’t hurt that Jim DeMint is gone.
But as far as the Overton Window’s continual move to the right, I remember when Tom Coburn was considered to be, along with his OK Senate partner, and DeMint, to be about as far to the right as anyone could get.
Now, Coburn is often described as being a “moderate.”
well, it cuts both ways. I remember when we had basically no progressives in the Senate other than Russ Feingold, Tom Harkin and Barbara Mikulski. Now we have Sherrod Brown and Mazie Hirono and Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and Tammy Baldwin and Al Franken and Ed Markey and Jeff Merkley and Sheldon Whitehouse and Tom Udall.
None of them are radicals, but they’re all solid progressives.
Thanks for reminding me! 🙂
Btw – great job, over at the WaMo this past weekend!
Thank you.
The Democratic centrists seem better. They don’t seem to want to piss off the Democratic mainstream purely for the purpose of pissing off the Democratic mainstream. Actually they seem to actively want to get along with Democratic voters; Manchin’s habit of getting back with the program after an uproar springs to mind.
The Republicans, not so much. There was a time a few like Snowe and even Collins would sometimes cast good votes because they wanted to. Right now they only seem to cast good votes to avert catastrophe for the country or for the Republicans party. They’re better than they were in 2009-10 but worse than under Bush.
Regular order?
You’re adorable.
The one consistent trend I’ve seen since Nov, 2012 is that the GOP learning curve actually trends downward.
The Dems will cave on a small point like the Medical Device Tax and the GOP will go back to hostage taking this winter.
Are you talking about the moderates in the Senate who support each and every filibuster of everything? Those moderates?
It looks once again like there is no middle in the House. Boehner’s back to square 1. Kill Obamacare subsidies.
There is one thing that needs to be done now. Repeal the debt limit. Period. That’s what needs to be jammed through the House before the clock strikes midnight.
Then the Democrats can begin to work on the shutdown and appropriations.
The DINOs who are the problem are in the House. And the ones in the Senate who are the problem are not as much the ideological ones as the procedural traditionalists who have allowed paralysis to continue. That includes some ideological liberals.
The ranks of the blue dogs have been decimated in the last couple of years in the house, though. There’s fewer of them. That’s a good thing.
Yes, that’s pretty much why there are fewer Democrats. Folks decided to vote for real Republicans.
Current FB talking points from GOP true believers. “These Democrats were against raising the debt ceiling before they were for it: Pelosi 2004, Rangel 2004, Reid 2006, Obama 2006.
Pelosi quote: We can’t just give a blank check over and over and over again.
Rangel quote: The request sounds like a drunk going to an AA meeting, saying just give me one more drink.
Reid quote: Most Americans know that increasing debt is the last thing we should be doing.
Obama quote: America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
Pretty thin gruel as GOP talking points IMO.
The difference between a symbolic vote and one that starves your granny is lost on these poor souls.
Only 25% of Republican voters call themselves moderate.
( http://www.democracycorps.com/attachments/article/949/Dcor.rpp.graphs.072313.web.pdf )
Teahadists and their white evangelical friends will continue their quest for conservative purity IMHO.
However the big corporate and millionaire donors can decide a lot here. Going forward, how will they adjust contributions between extremists and moderates? I think that would probably decide for us whether compromise will be more common or continue to be elusive.
Either way I do not see how the GOP will be able to prevent their party from shrinking further.
The public may well not tolerate more gridlock but the general public has little influence other than voting. And the power of voting is distributed. Extremist heavy districts will still elect Teahadists. Those extremist voters will be fine with gridlock.
The rout continues. Boehner can’t get anything through the house without dem support:
House republican plan collapses:
http://www.nytimes.com/news/fiscal-crisis/2013/10/15/republican-leaders-back-off-new-plan/?_r=0
Boner: “Gee, uh … let me see … what do I do now?”
He knows perfectly well what to do, he just doesn’t want people to think he does.
He’s got to go through the motions of appeasing the Tea Party so everybody can see they ain’t got the votes. And that’s not HIS fault. And then …
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/15/reid-im-disappointed-john-boehner-putting-role-country.html