If I thought President Obama was attempting to be “serious” in the manner that Washington insiders usually mean that term, I would have to agree wholeheartedly with Marc Thiessen:
Let’s imagine you were a Democratic president who just lost control of Congress to the Republicans, and you wanted to make it really, really clear that you are not serious about governing. What would you do? Simple: Use your State of the Union address to propose hundreds of billions of dollars in new taxes that will never be enacted, in order to fund a slew of new government programs that have no chance of being approved.
Welcome to President Obama’s 2015 State of the Union address.
Yup. It’s pretty obvious that the president isn’t being “serious.” In fact, it’s impossible to argue with the following, too:
On Tuesday night, Obama will ask the new Republican Congress to approve $320 billion in tax increases. To see how absurd this is, imagine for a moment what the reaction would have been if, after losing control of Congress to the Democrats in 2006, President George W. Bush had used his next State of the Union address to propose $320 billion in growth-oriented tax cuts. Would anyone have taken him seriously? The media would have dismissed Bush as delusional. Democrats would have laughed. Everyone would have asked: What’s wrong with him? Didn’t he get the message of the 2006 midterms? What planet is he on?
Yeah, that is precisely right. No doubt about it.
This, too:
Obama is not delusional. He knows his plan has no chance of becoming law. White House officials, according to Politico, “aren’t holding their breath that Obama’s new proposals will pass Congress now that Republicans control both chambers.” (Which raises the question why, if Obama were serious, didn’t he propose them when Democrats controlled both chambers?) The goal is for “Obama to position himself as a defender of the middle class” and put Republicans in the “politically awkward” position of resisting tax increases on the rich to pay for programs that benefit the middle class.
In other words, Obama’s move is completely and transparently political.
I can’t argue with a single word of that. It’s spot-on.
But, here’s the thing. This is what I want the president to do, not because I think it is “serious” in the sense that it demonstrates that the president is interested in signing legislation, but because it indicates that he is serious about not passing a Republican agenda. If he can’t do what he’d like to do, he can at least block the Republicans from doing what they’d like to do.
It might seem like a small thing, but this is not what Clinton did when faced with a similarly hostile Congress in the last two years of his crippled presidency. Here’s what Clinton did. He signed the:
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Balanced Budget Act of 1997
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Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997
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Iraq Liberation Act
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Securities Litigation Uniform Standards Act
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Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act
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Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000
You might want to familiarize yourself with this list of legislation because it all combined to set the stage for the war in Iraq and the Great Recession. That’s what being “serious” about working with a Republican Congress looked like, and history doesn’t look kindly on the results.
So, I’m pretty grateful that our president has no intention of going out and giving a State of the Union address where he will explain how he is going to meet John Boehner and Mitch McConnell halfway. I’m glad he isn’t reacting to the midterm elections as if they give the Republicans a mandate to do anything.
Yes, it’s true, these proposals are transparently political and designed to make the Republicans squirm and look bad. Yes, he might have proposed these policies when he had a friendlier Congress and some prospect of seeing them enacted (although, thanks to Bush and Clinton, he had a pile of shit to clean up first).
I wish the Republicans could come up with something worth signing, but they can’t. And I’m glad that we elected a president who knows better than to try to score points inside the Beltway by being the kind of “serious” they expect him to be.
Before President Obama was even sworn in, the GOP developed a strategy of “no compromise,” and that’s what they should expect now.
The Republicans crushed us on Election Night and the president intends to respond by proposing “hundreds of billions of dollars in new taxes” on rich people to pay for tax cuts and other initiatives for the working poor and middle class.
Bill Clinton, he is not.
The President has No More Phucks To Give.
Thiessen isn’t even being honest (no surprise there). He gives as “proof” that the Republicans are the serious ones, the proposal by Paul Ryan last year:
He did two things there: first, he pivoted away from the fact that the president’s proposal is about helping the middle class and made it about helping “the poors”, something that is, sadly, not as popular. Second, he pointed to a proposal by a guy who thinks the social safety net is a “hammock” and that the inner city is filled with lazy people unwilling to work.
Yes, it is a taunt. But it is also setting the Democratic Party platform for 2016 and that will NOT be good news for John McCain or Lindsey Graham.
And what does the endlessly serious Thiessen respond with? A taunt of his own:
Yep, the old veto dare–“Please proceed” at its finest. Let the Republicans bust out all their wildly popular plans to help poor people by helping rich people, and watch Obama’s hands tremble as he–oh wait, that’s not what’s happening. He’s got a huge stamp that says VETO and he’s calling a press conference so he can stamp vetoes all over the Republicans’ nonsense in front of a live national audience. How can he be so unserious? Doesn’t he get it?
Sally Kohn (CNN) on the Republican’s “plans”:
“Please proceed” indeed:

Wouldn’t it be refreshing if Obama would preface his calls for a tax increase on the wealthy by quoting from Kohn’s report above. And maybe do so by referring to them as “Republicans”, rather than the usual “our friends on the other side of the aisle.”
Republican policies always make me thing of this cartoon:
… because he already did this, in 2010. And he saw how (not) well that turned out. We have a president who is fallible, who makes mistakes, some of them egregious. But we also have a president who is smart enough to learn from his mistakes. Trying to compromise with Republicans just encourages them to be more intransigent.
You’re right, we aren’t going to get much done legislatively in the next 2 years. But now that he’s free to do what he thinks is right, President Obama can at least use executive action and champion liberal principals.
There was an interesting infographic on WSJ about the “success rate” of various Obama SoTU proposals over the years, and I thought it did a really succinct job of identifying what were the “good” years and what were the “struggle” years. 2011 and 2013 were pretty brutal to get through, but otherwise, the President’s plans for the nation announced at the outset usually come to pass over the next eleven months. 09 and 10 had the giant, earth-shattering legacy bills, 12 was a tidy reelection, and this past year saw a lot of self-confident executive actions in the midst of a growing economy.
His administration’s history suggests that if what he talks about tonight never comes to pass, it’s not good news for him politically or the country. Especially if more shutdowns or mega veto confrontations are in store. Continuing the 2014 glidepath is actually the safer route over kicking off the 2016 elections 18 months early.
That is to say that liberals and bully pulpiteers should be ecstatic by this new agenda (ha), but I won’t be surprised if in six weeks time the White House is already tempted to drink antifreeze after reckoning with every bill in the land originating from Republican desks and Republican committees.
On the other hand, much of the announced agendas for 2011 and 2013 revolved around wayward plans for “tax reform” or grand bargains that always fell apart at the last minute. So maybe the simple lesson is never broach accommodation with the enemy who hates you, and this year represents an untested political paradigm altogether?
Still I think about the various jobs bills and infrastructure plans he’s always hoped for, and he never received one smidgen of credit for proposing. Nor did they ever come close to passing.
Even still, he has a pretty good audience for these things and he gets to tell that audience about his vision for what America could be if we put our shoulder into it. I don’t care about ‘proposals’ or ‘serious’; I care about inspiration and hope. If he accomplishes that in his speech tonight, I’ll be fine with it. I think it is still important that Americans are spoken to like adults and given good ideas to mull over in the interim.
Added bonus is watching the Republicans squirm in their seats throughout the whole speech. They have to sit there and listen to the leader of the free world speak. Oh and he’s Black.
Yes, and Obama’s frivolity does seem to be polling reasonably well. There’s obviously no point arguing with a schmuck like Thiessen over which party is really unserious about governing. But it plainly isn’t Obama’s fault that the Republicans are going to turn the 114th Congress into a prolonged right-wing circle jerk. All he and the Democrats can do now is make the case for what the next Congress needs to look like.
It is almost like PBO is throwing a long ball to the next Democratic President for the win…all he/she has to do is catch the ball and run with it…
Good metaphor, though my favorite is that Obama needs someone to be the Joshua to his Moses.
The is no end of candidates for Ramses!
It’s all kabuki. He makes big talk now while plotting to deliver the country to the 1%, by TPP and the big talk is “balance”.
WHERE WAS HE WHEN DEMOCRATS CONTROLLED BOTH HOUSES! Talk is cheap.
Passing major legislation through an obstructionist Senate that’s where, there was only so much time and we were still reeling from an economic catastrophe
Exactly, passing TARP II and letting the homeowners pick their belongings off the lawn while the bankers got government money to pay big bonuses.
TARP 2? I think you mean the release of the 2nd half of the TARP funds, which happened before he took office but he did vote for it.
Anyway, FDR saved the banks too. Sometimes you have to do what’s unpopular to stave off worse outcomes. They did what they could about the bonuses but since we didn’t actually control the banks at the time there was very little anyone could do.
He got through a ton of stuff 2009-2010 and got the most of what he could given the Republicans having a united front. He is President not king.
Couldn’t agree more.
And it helps always and everywhere to make it clear the Dems are the party of the ordinary folks of American and the GOP is the party of the plutocracy.
All of the proposals in question look good to me and should look good to the plain folks, unless brainwashed.
Well, that’s what we pretend. In reality, I have to agree with Arthur Gilroy. Both parties pretend to support the little guy, albeit that definitions of “little guy” vary. However, BOTH parties serve the plutocracy and the Trans-pacific Partnership and Chained-CPI are my proof. Obama does not stand for me and my family. I voted for him in 2008 because I naively thought he did. After he proved he didn’t, I still voted for him in 2012 because the alternative was even worse, but many of my class wanted revenge anyway. Sometimes I think I should have opted for revenge too. At least that would have been an achievable goal.
Chained-CPI, which never had any chance of passing and the TPP which we have no idea what’s in it yet
I got a good laugh out of Marco Rubio’s bold new conservative plan to restore the American Dream–he wrote a book! Of course that’s not going to convince the President to sign off on whatever garbage the Republicans manage to pass in this Congress, but he might make a few bucks.
This made me laugh plenty:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/bill-maher-parodies-gop-presidential-hopefuls-books-me-want-banan
a-me-climb-there/
My favorite GOP Presidential candidate alternative book title here: Palin’s.
“Hey, Sucker: Yeah, you. Give me $29.95.”
The salient sentence here.
Booman’s sorta-kinda answer?
But he didn’t.
Why not?
Theories abound, but proof is scarce. We’ll never really know, in all probability. But the fact remains that irrespective of any guesses about motives…he didn’t.
You could say much the same thing about the non-prosecution of war criminals and economic criminals.
He didn’t.
And there it stands.
A failed administration, under heavy attack from the right and losing.
He either blew it or he was successful in being the front man for the centrist industrial corporate complex. Or perhaps both.
His State of the Union speech? If it does not flat out say that the U.S. is now a technologically, corporate-controlled dictatorship then it will simply be more of the same lame bullshit that every revious State of the Union speech has been.
Watch it?
Not on your life.
The WWF is less scripted than is that kind of formaliized, dumbshow idiocy. Fatcat pols applauding on cue as if they had a late night talk show “APPLAUSE!!!” sign directly wired to their little heads.
I call bullshit.
Up and down the line.
Feeling “grumpy,” Booman?
With good reason.
Welcome to the fucking club.
Don’t apologize. Not for feeling distressed over what is happening to this country, and not for the people who have presided over its downfall, either. Neither the right of left wings of the UniParty are without serious blame.
Kick the bums out.
All of them.
This really is the only solution.
“Impractical,” I am sure that you will say.
Then don’t complain if you choose to remain part of the problem.
Instead?
“GO!!!”
“MOVE!!!”
“GET OUTTA THE WAY!!!”
You cannot be both part of the solution and part of the problem. If you give Obama the benefit of the doubt, that has been his primary mistake. He tried to play the inside game and he lost. So it goes when you are totally outnumbered and outgunned. Time for a new game.
Later…
AG
Sorry, dude, but Rand Paul isn’t the answer. We tried electing a right wing shithead in 2000, and look how well that turned out.
Somebody named “KayInMD” just gave me a “2” rating for this post. That means “Warning!” in BooSpeak.
Come here in person and tell me about whatever this “Warning!” means to you, please.
Have I been a bad little boy?
Have I displeased you in some way?
Get used to it.
Your truly…
Arthur Gilroy
Whatever Thiessen has to say should be irrelevant to Democrats other than the neoliberalcon Democrats.
What they need to totally understand is this:
One major quibble from me, Clinton was on board with all of that and it was the GOP controlled Congress that gave him license to go ahead.
If Democrats truly appreciated what that legislation meant for working class people (who far outnumber those that are or once were truly middle-class), they wouldn’t give the Clintons the time of day.
Better that Obama is now into “just saying no” to the GOP Congress than adding to the plethora of bad, rightwing legislation enacted since 1981. Better still, since he won’t get anything done anyone, would be to call for the repeal of all this crap. But that would require a broad and visionary thinker.
Yeah, Marie. Right on the money.
But, you write:
Anyone who continues to support Obama in any shape, manner or fashion is a “neoliberalcon Democrat,” whether they are conscious of the fact, in deep denial or they have been duped into believing otherwise.
UH oh!!!
Who’s left?
Not many.
So what do we really have as a U.S. electorate today…those who are truly likely to go to the polls come election day?
We have neoliberal DemRats, neoconservative RatPubs…roughly 25%-30% each of the total electorate..and 40%-50% so-called “independents.” Now there are of course of independents who are truly independent of the hypnomedia. You and I are two of them and there are more on this website. What do you suppose the total percentage of said electorate would be that might fit that description? i don’t know, myself. Certainly many of the citizens who grew up after the internet became as broadly powerful as it is today, but even considering them the number is likely to be well under 10%. Maybe 4%-5%? Possibly less? Meanwhile Hypnomedia Central keeps up its constant drumbeat on all fronts.
Over and over and over and over again.
And the bullshit continues.
Until an appreciable number of people tune the fuck out, bullshit rules.
So it goes.
Later…
AG
I’d guess 4%-5%. But that’s enough to swing an election.
Is It? I’m not sure about the math. I’m really not. Or about the
Erectoral…errr, ahhh…Electoral College either. Seems like it’s become one of those online university-type colleges, only instead of being a diploma mill it’s become an election mill.Say alla the good DemRats vote DemRat and alla good Ratpubs vote RatPub. And it’s close to a tie. And alla the good undecideds go say 33.3% DemRat, 33.3% Ratpub and 33.3% Fuck it, I’ve got better things to do. That leaves it up to maybe 4%-5% of the population to swing things? A 4%-5% that undoubtedly mostly iives in already solidly blue states like NY, Massachusetts and the Pacific west?
A couple of little 2000/2004-style digiltal vote jiggers in whatever swing states are needed and whomever the controllers have declared this year’s winner is
erectedErrr, ahhh…elected.And the beat goes on.
Bet on it.
AG
“Drop out, man. Disengage from the immoral system and the leaders it chooses.” That’s not a plan to accomplish the remaking of the immoral system, Arthur. In fact, it ensures that the immorality will continue. No movement for change has ever succeeded by executing your recommended strategy here.
This fact is clearly understood by those who have successfully convinced the American people to install and accept the military-industrial complex, the national security state, and all the other government policies which make you most unhappy.
Could be. Could not be as well. It hasn’t really been tried yet. Not under the post-digital rules it hasn’t.
You say:
Digital communication has rewritten the playbook, centerfielddj. Completely and absolutely. And It ain’t finished yet. Whatever rules now apply, allying oneself with what can reasonably called “evil” has long been counselled against by the real “best and brightest” of every generation.
For eons.
That’s what i am doing, centerfielddj. Openly discrediting evil.
Take it or leave it, as you must.
Later…
AG
TPIP
CETA
Wait.
You mean a politician is playing…politics…
No fucking shit!
Marc Thiessen collects a paycheck? Seriously?
Can I get the local stray dog to wipe its ass on some paper that I can sell as political analysis to Marc Thiessen’s employer?