Rick Klein makes an observation:
“The culture wars are raging again, bringing the predictable splits. Democrats say one thing; Republicans – including all of the potential 2016ers — say another, reflecting real divisions among voters. But there’s something missing on the GOP side: some of the biggest voices in the business community. Leading the way in criticizing the new Indiana law and its cousins in other states are titans of the corporate world: Apple, Walmart, Marriott, Eli Lilly, even Indiana’s Chamber of Commerce.”
“There are few signs that corporate leaders’ splits with the political right will last permanently, or matter for things like campaign contributions. But it’s instructive to see how things are lining up in this fight. It’s as if big slices of corporate America are glimpsing a demographic and ideological future ahead of their political counterparts.”
I think we’re in danger of being too simplistic when we assign certain Democrats to the “Wall Street” camp, including Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton, and cast them as enemies of the more populist camp represented currently by Senator Elizabeth Warren. But there isn’t much doubt that the Clintons (both Hillary and Bill) have decent relationships with corporate America. If corporate America feels like Hillary is probably going to be the next president, they’ll be more interested in influencing her and mollifying the populist impulses in the party than in attacking and alienating her.
To be sure, there will be some ideologues and hard-right business/culture warriors and Fox News addicts in the corporate world who will spend many millions of dollars trying to elect the Republican nominee, but these things are a matter or proportion and percentages. Clinton should have a wide driving lane with plenty of space to give a wink and a nod to Wall Street when she feels the need to speak in Warrenesque tones.
Probably the main attraction of Jeb as a Republican champion is that he will blunt this potential for Clinton to divide the business community from the holy rollers.
Great effort has been expended, and will continue to be expended, to prevent Business vs. Church from ever coming to a straight, head-on fight.
But if it does, Business will lose, unbelievably hard and unbelievably fast. Business buys advertising, but the Church delivers the votes.
I hope you are not suggesting that is true in a general election context, because it isn’t.
You are getting to far ahead of 2016. The religious freedom legislation of adult sex has just begun. If Pence or Hutchinson are unable to get their legislatures to pass anti discrimination laws and are force to resort to executive orders…that the pizza man ignores. What happens next will set up how much Corp. support Clinton gets.
to Obama’s nemesis puts Hillary in the camp of McCain, et al. on ME foreign policy. Her performance in the president’s 1st term was poor … he had nothing to show for.
Where resides Republican Boehner when the Iran issue needs tough decisions? Boehner in Jerusalem to support his ‘führer’ [leader]
Pardon me but:
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Corporate America (with the exception of the few owned/operated by fundie loons) is in the business of making a profit and doesn’t care about cultural issues except as a way to elect their BFFs. They hedge their bets by promoting candidates in both parties that aren’t much different on the issues that matter to business. When that fails, they go with the one that’s most friendly to them. Between Obama and McCain is was close to a tie, but Palin tipped the balance. Obama over Romney because another four years of a neutralized peace movement is preferable to a neutralized teabagger faction.
Once Wall Street abandons the lunatics of the GOP for the relatively sane conservatism of the Clintonista Democrats, the realignment is going to a wild ride. I think we’re going to end up with an establishment party (Dems) against a populist party (the GOP or its replacement). We’re not going to go to bed with the same folks we woke up with, IMO.
for Palin or her loony MN comrade:
Do you think there is any chance of a conservative 3rd party challenger arising in 2016?
The only reason I ask is that there have to be an awful lot of non-bible thumping conservatives / moderates watching the Indiana clown car pileup with a look of abject horror on their faces.
So I guess the better question is, do you think there is any chance that the schism in the Republican party has finally grown too wide to keep everyone in line for a general election?
yeah, I do. And his name is Ted Cruz. I’ve said elsewhere that his real purpose in running for the R nomination is to be able to start a Xtian political party in the near future … future defined as the next 16 Months.
Cruz is not stupid. Cruz is not unaware of how he is viewed by the bulk of the American populace.
Occam’s Razor: Since there is no chance that Cruz can win the R nomination, something else is going on.
Warren and Sherod Brown.
A chance for diplomacy …
○ New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez indicted on corruption charges
NJ really knows how to pick them don’t they?
In fairness to NJ Democrats, it’s not that they are more corrupt than Republicans in NJ or Republicans and Democrats in other states. It’s just that in a dozen or so years they’ve had two senators and a governor nabbed.
Now can the NJ US Attorney get moving on Christie’s multiple and significant croooked deals instead of focusing so much attention on penny ante Democratic deals?
This detailed analysis is worth noting here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/31/1374629/-Hillary-Clinton-Was-the-11th-Most-Liberal-Member-o
f-the-Senate#