I’ve developed a new way of watching Republican debates. First, I forget that they’ve already started. Then I fail to remember that they’re being carried exclusively by a cable news network I watch so little that I’ve forgotten where it resides on my remote control. After I finally tune in fifteen or twenty minutes late, I feel compelled to move far away from the screen, meaning to an adjacent room or out on my patio. At this point, I can technically hear the audio if I strain my ears and concentrate, but I’m actually following along on Twitter. If I hear some rowdy audience reaction or something being said on Twitter piques my interest, I may wander back towards the television and stand there shifting my weight from foot to foot impatiently as I struggle to overcome my impulse to flee.
I think I can accomplish approximately four interrupted minutes of viewing before something in my brain insists that I stop and go do something else.
This isn’t because I don’t feel an obligation to watch so I have the information I need to understand this campaign. It’s baser than that and really amounts to something like a worn out pancreas that has just seen too much bullshit for one life.
I might need an organ transplant to get to the point where I can again spend three hours listening to those loons do their thing.
Now, when it came to the Kiddie Table debate, I completely spaced that it was on until it was well over, so I just went to see what Ed said about it:
And speaking of crazy, the “J.V.” debate revealed the id of the conservative movement on full display in a way that only occurred sporadically in the main event. Bobby Jindal is rapidly perfecting and radicalizing what I’d call his Trumpism Without Trump pitch, which mainly involves shrieking at congressional Republicans for not taking the most extreme strategic and tactical approaches available on every subject. That means, inter alia, shutting down the government over Planned Parenthood; using the nuclear option to pass a resolution of disapproval on the Iran Nuke Deal; defying the Supreme Court over same-sex marriage and Obamacare; you name it. Just as interestingly, the candidate who kept schooling Bobby on the counterproductive nature of such tactics, Lindsey Graham (us lawyers particularly enjoyed his patient explanation of Marbury v. Madison to Jindal as though he was a backward child), then spent the balance of his time trying to establish a litmus test whereby all candidates where required to promise to send tens of thousands of American ground troops back into Iraq, and maybe Syria and Iran, too, to “kill as many of the bastards as we can get our hands on.” Republicans are lucky the J.V. debate probably didn’t draw that high a viewership; it was like a bad episode of True Blood.
I don’t watch True Blood, either, but I think it has something to do with vampires. Personally, I’ve begun comparing these folks to the Manson Family, but choose your own analogies.
Somehow, all this pandering to the Republican id reminded me of an episode of Seinfeld in which Elaine Benes discovers that she’s suddenly irresistible to the Jewish gentlemen in her life.
ELAINE: Rabbi, is there anything I can do to combat this Shiks-appeal?
RABBI: Ha! Elaine, shiks-appeal is a myth, like the Yeti, or his North American cousin, the Sasquatch.
ELAINE: Well, something’s goin’ on here, ’cause every able-bodied Israelite in the county is driving pretty strong to the hoop.
RABBI: Elaine, there’s much you don’t understand about the Jewish religion. For example, did you know that rabbis are allowed to date?
ELAINE: (About to leave) Well, what does that have to do…?
RABBI: You know, a member of my congregation has a timeshare in Myrtle Beach. Perhaps, if you’re not too busy, we could wing on down after the High Holidays? Elaine? ‘Lainie?
Why did this particular scene come to my mind?
Because the way these Republicans compete to attract the lowest common denominator voter by appealing to their basest instincts is almost a parody of the right-wing American voter. I don’t think the average conservative American is any more interested in following Bobby Jindal’s deranged plans than he is in killing every last bastard in the Middle East, although, unlike Elaine Benes, they’d probably take that Rabbi up on his invitation for a time share in Myrtle Beach.
But every able-bodied Republican candidate for the presidency is going pretty strong to the hoop in their effort to woo these (mostly) fictional voters.
And I’ve said this before, the result of all this pandering is to send a message that this is how people should feel about Congress and Planned Parenthood and Central American refugees and Arabs and Iranians. This appeal to the id actually turns people into worse people who are less tolerant and more fearful than they were before they were exposed to this nonsense.
You can’t keep doing this, as the Mighty Right-Wing Media Wurlitzer has been doing now for twenty years, without creating a demand for your insane policies.
So, who did the best job last night?
I know I have to figure that out, but I just couldn’t watch it in real time.
Well here is Ann Coulter’s take
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ann-coulter-jews-rant
I couldn’t bring myself to watch it. A bunch of local Dems were getting together to watch, drink and howl at the screen. But I just couldn’t do it. And I can’t bring myself to read any of the “analysis” in the mainstream media, either. At this juncture I am physically repulsed when I have to listen to any of these people or even read what they have to say. This imaginary world that the Republican base is living in, and the pandering that is necessary by their politicians in order to perpetuate this fantastical world has just become too much for me to take. It has turned into some sort of Twilight Zone episode, but unfortunately it is all too real to those who are lapping up what these guys have to say.
I just get the sense that we are nearing the point of critical mass here, where some sort of cataclysmic event is simply unavoidable within the Republican Party. I have no idea what form it will take, but I think they have reached the end of their rope and there is simply no other way to go but toward the abyss. What lies over the edge or at the bottom remains to be seen. But I think we are all going to feel its effects for a long, long time.
Takeaways I noticed. The crowd, which was apparently about 500 were attendees that were by invitation of the Reagan Library itself. I may be wrong but that’s what my tv told me.
That said, I’m thinkin the audience wasn’t from Trump, Cruz, Paul or Huckabee’s base. This was a different crowd than those guys are used to talking to.
And apparently Rubio started out by tossing out a joke on global warming and California’s fires which was received by absolute silence.
So the Reagan element made a statement about the boys that can never be Reaganesque.
And then I noticed that Obamacare was never mentioned. So, maybe it’s time to say that the real winner of this was, finally, the ACA.
I think it’s funny and also telling that on most of liberal political websites I read every day, nobody watched the debate. Lots of conjecture and supposition about what was said and by whom, but few had the stomach for it.
Did I watch? Nopity-nope. The final episode of Master Chef was on!
I opted for Dawn Of Humanity on PBS. It was a great show. But is was based on that most evil of liberal tools…. Science!
Me too. That was a great Nova program.
I love that NPR is trying so damn hard to push the narrative that Trump sucks and Fiorina is the One.
Pundits would be better off working in salt mines.
No, WE would be (far) better off if they worked in salt mines.
I went running, then hung out with a girl. I don’t need to watch that nonsense. And anyway, Trump won. Even if he drops out today, the rest of the clowns are as boring as watching paint dry.
I mean, this is the level at which Republicans get to talk at. I can accept a certain level of fudging, waffling, spinning, un-responsiveness, evasions, euphemisms, etc. But this is a full blown hallucination. And this is by no means anomalous for Republican discourse. It’s an entire discursive world sealed off from empirical reality AND consequences. And the media gulps down this toilet water like it just crossed the Sonoran desert in August.
I don’t watch. I won’t be voting to elect one of these folks Head Clown. I have other things to do. I’d just get annoyed.
We have 3,402,302 more debates.
This, this made me laugh heartily. Thanks, dataguy.
Trump won. Hands down. Because he DIDN’T lose. Right now all trump really has to do is shut up and watch everyone else implode.
Jeb!: My brother kept us safe. Yeah. That’s an article of faith with about 3/4 of the R BASE. No one else believes that and its enough to lose lots of votes that otherwise would be wooable.
Fiorina: I saved HP. Yeah. Until the articles begin adding up:
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007 (and this one’s from the HERITAGE Foundation!!!
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
Carson: still Black
Kasich: doesn’t say much, but hasn’t shot himself in the foot either.
The rest of them? Losers. Just because Trump is an asshole, doesn’t make him wrong.
Rubio did above average.
When average is 37% that doesn’t say much.
That’s true for all Republicans sure enough.
I watched most of it. Sickening as one would expect. I’ll give Rand Paul a mention for sticking his neck out just a bit with his statement of relative nonintervention in the middle east when the others favored boots on the ground. It got slight applause.
But sickening in all too many familiar ways. Not sickening because the sounds were so foreign as the premiere of “Le Sacre du Printemps” was. Or shockingly sickening as a real “Springtime for Hitler” Broadway musical would have been. It was banal, cliched, predictable wanderings through the worst that Americans represent to the world.
Hell, I’d like to kill every last bastard in the ME and surrounding area but it’s impossible with killing lots of non bastards so WTF are you thinking Butters?
I’m not sure who won with GOP primary voters, but what I learned from the debate is that we had better pray that Carly Fiona doesn’t win the nomination – she’s an able communicator that can make their insanity seem somewhat reasonable to the low-information voter. She alone from the clown show is a legitimate threat.
The liberal CA Senator, Barbara Boxer, won her 2010 election election over Fiorina by 52% to 42%. That was a midterm election year that favored Republicans. And Boxer is so liberal that in each of her four senate races she was considered by many to be vulnerable.
True, but Jeb! got trounced in his first gubernatorial quest before he won. Not sure what happened in the senate race (although it is California) but it looks like Fiona has learned a thing or two since then. I’m not saying that she’s going to win – either the primary or the general – I’m just saying that if she wins the nomination then she will be a formidable opponent.
2010 was a great year for Democrats in California. We won every statewide elected office. I wouldn’t count that against Fiorina.
She scared the hell out of me. Trump is the kind of rich person who plays with money and power. Fiorina is the type who enslaves others for her benefit. She wants war and she doesn’t care who suffers.
I damn near punched my teevee when JEB! said “My brother kept us safe”
He has since tweeted the infamous picture of Shrub standing on the pile of corpses, bull horn in hand and said the same damned thing.
He’s either a twisted psychopath or a total moron. Possibly both.
I did watch it.
Who won the “debate” (sic) is like asking who is the most sane inmate down at the local paranoid schizophrenic farm. Yeah, someone is … and who the bloody hell cares?
After suffering through about half of the “kiddie” debate, I couldn’t stand to watch the real debate very long–especially after Jeb! acted like a petulant child when addressing The Donald and Carly Fiorina went on a rampage about Planned Parenthood. I find this kind of talk from a female very disturbing. I did press the mute button and read the captions periodically. By the end, I was peeking through my fingers while reading. Just an awful night. I was not really impressed with Kasich. I am wondering if The Mitt will be asked to come to the rescue. He’s waiting out there.
I’m Mitt Romney, bitches, and I’m all you got left.
Heh.
Heh-heh-heh.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Heh.