Joshua Holland has an important piece up at The Nation. I think he does a good job of framing a point that the president tried to make in his address to the nation.
For years, American Muslims have been told by many Christians—and Jews and “new atheist” types—that Islam is incompatible with Western democracy. Last month, the American Values Survey found that 76 percent of Republicans believe Islam to be “incompatible with the American way of life,” despite the fact that Islam has been part of the fabric of this country since before its founding. At the same time, they’ve been told by Islamic fundamentalists that democracy is incompatible with Islam. And they might well have come to believe that given the discrimination they suffer and the toxic Islamophobia they often see around them. They might have accepted the idea that the West is at war with Islam when we invaded and occupied Afghanistan and Iraq—after all, experts say the invasion of Iraq provided an enormous boost to terrorist groups’ recruitment efforts. And yet with a few scattered exceptions, Muslim Americans have proved both the Islamophobes and the Islamic extremists wrong.
There are a few ways to look at Holland’s piece, but one of the important ones is that we’re asking Muslim-Americans to be loyal citizens but we’re not cognizant enough of the impact it has when both radical Islamists and American politicians tell them that their religion is incompatible with our values and our way of life. Holland makes a good point when he basically gives them extra credit for rejecting this view no matter who proposes it.
It stands to reason, though, that at least a few individuals will be convinced when there seems to be such a consensus on the issue. And all it takes are a few individuals to commit an act of terrorism that makes our whole political system wet its pants and start talking about closing mosques and banning Muslim immigration.
Since it’s impossible to stop every small-bore terrorist attack, even with the most repressive tactics that can be conceived, the best we can do is to stop making them more likely. There’s nothing in the record that supports treating Muslim-Americans as a disloyal fifth column. The record indicates the exact opposite, actually. Why we would want to do our best to make them lose their faith in our country is beyond unclear. It should be obvious that this is doing the Islamic State’s work for them.
Very true. Even W recognized this. But the right needs its boogeyman and since these days they’re feeling all homoerotic around a guy like Putin who comes as close to commie as anyone anymore except the Castro brothers (the ones in Cuba) and they’re old and decrepit and not making much noise, and since you can’t say “nigger” anymore, well . . . someone’s got to fill the void. Mexicans would make a nice alternative except that they’re such a fast growing minority. Plus “racist” is harder to deal with than “bigoted against Islam.”
It’s unfortunate that fundamentalist Islam plays right into the hands of the bigots. As you say, it’s coming from both extremes with the vast bulk of Muslims, the ever-resilient moderate faithful, trying to reach out over the dynr.
Thundering appraisal: the right is ‘feeling homoerotic around a guy like Putin.’ That really calls for further explanation!
Not a bad idea to remember that with the participation of the Muslim communities, nearly 40% of the tips that have led FBI and local authorities to resolve plots have come from Muslims themselves.
And we know that overseas, Muslims are more frequently the target of terrorist attacks.
In comparison, the FBI has actually been more successful on our soil of foiling attacks planned by Muslims than they have been in foiling attacks by non Muslims. I’m sure someone will chime in with stats, but perhaps the Muslim community is already doing more to prevent attacks than the families and neighbors of mass shooters, bombers and arsonists who are not Muslim.
For me, the most abjectly appalling and/or ridiculous thing is that, if I’m going to be afraid (mostly I’m not) of anyone, I’m more concerned about rabid white males with loads of gunz ‘n ammo who are on a daily diet of Hate Radio and belong to the cult of FoxNoise. Seriously.
There’s info out there about the high number of what’s termed mass murders this year – 300+. Other than the San Berdoo attack last week, I believe that all the rest were perpetrated by white males, some (not all) demonstrably influenced by some rightwing hate group or another.
Our putrid horrid 4th Estate refused to really countenance that the PP shooter the other week was influenced by the incendiary and inflammatory rhetoric from GOP “candidates.” Most or all of that inflaming and inciting rhetoric has been proven endlessly & expensively to be patent lies, yet the GOP-dominated Congress, I believe, proposes to WASTE yet more US taxpayer dollar$ on more “Investigations” into PP. So the shooter comes a-shooting shouting junk about “baby parts,” but eh? He’s allegedly a “Xian” and most definitely a white male, so terrorist? Heavens NO!
This couple from San Berdoo, otoh, has GOPers yet again sh*tting in the stupid depends bc: they’re coming to KILT us Mabel!!!1111!!!
I guess if the bullets arrive from a gun held by a white Xian male, yet again: IOKIYAR. But if the bullets come from some dirty Moozlins holding the trigger – omigawd, freak out, freak out, FREAK OUT.
I know quite a few Muslims. Many have either been born here or became naturalized citizens many years ago. They are no different from any other US citizen. They believe in the United States, and they have values similar to (these days, perhaps better than) what we’re told are our “Christian-Judeo” values.
Spare me. The GOP/rightwing is playing right into the hands of DAESH, giving them the exact fodder DAESH needs to rile up those who are ready for riling up. The beat goes on.
Trump’s way is absolutely 180 degrees away from how we should behave in this country. W Bush was – amazingly enough – better at this. But then, when W Bush’s Admin ended, a lot of Tea Partiers were already yapping about how W Bush was “too liberal.”
What to do?
Great read TTP on how Fox News and right wing radio made the Donald
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/don-t-be-surprised–4
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