Maybe you’ve seen Pink Floyd’s movie, The Wall, or at least heard the song In the Flesh where a Hitleresque man addresses a rally of fawning, seething fanatics.
Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall!
There’s one in the spotlight, he don’t look right to me,
Get him up against the wall!
That one looks Jewish!
And that one’s a coon!
Who let all of this riffraff into the room?
There’s one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I’d have all of you shot!
It’s a pretty basic concept. I hope everyone can instantly understand the point. This is a style of politics. It’s not always present, but given the right kind of preconditions, it’s familiar and perhaps even inevitable.
And it was on display last in night in Burlington, Vermont. To begin with, the campaign issued 20,000 tickets for a venue that could hold only 1,400 people. To handle the problem they had created, they screened people at the doors in an attempt to keep the “riffraff” out. They also had a plan for dealing with the undesirables who slipped through.
A voice over the loudspeaker before the rally told the crowd that if a protester demonstrated nearby, to shout “Trump, Trump, Trump!” to alert security of their location.
The voice reminded the crowd that the rally was a “private event paid for by Mr. Trump.”
Once the event began and the protestors made themselves heard, The Trumpistas operated as they had been instructed.
“Get ’em out of here,” Trump said. The crowd repeated the phrase and chanted Trump’s name in support of the protesters’ removal.
At one point, Trump became somewhat exasperated with all the interruptions and encouraged his security to “move faster” in their efforts to remove people and half-jokingly told the audience that maybe he wouldn’t mind too much if the protestors were injured.
“I respect what they’re doing,” Trump said, “unless they have a substance-abuse problem, which they probably do.” He then pointed to a guy who he claimed definitely had a substance abuse problem.
The next escalation came when he instructed his security detail to confiscate the coats of protestors and throw them out in the cold.
Throw them out into the cold,” Trump ordered security, as protesters shouted “Bernie! Bernie!” during his rally Thursday night in Burlington, Vt.
“Don’t give them their coats,” Trump added. “No coats! Confiscate their coats.”
“It’s about 10 degrees below zero outside… You can keep his coat; tell him we’ll send it to him in a couple of weeks,” Trump told security.
Then Trump insisted that this was all part of the show, and good entertainment.
“You know it’s sort of fun. Isn’t this more exciting?” Trump added. “You know, you go to a Hillary thing. It’s like, boring. You go to a Jeb thing and you fall asleep.
“Are there any remnants?” Trump later asked, as another protester shouted out.
“There’s a remnant,” he said, pointing. “Throw him out.”
Of course, this was just how Trump dealt with protestors, but the substance of his speech touched on building a wall to keep immigrants out and violent crime in our cities–themes that were consistent with the fascist rally portrayed in The Wall.
There were minor differences. “There’s one smoking a joint!” became “this one has substance abuse problems.” “Get them up against the wall” became “get them out of here.” “Who let all of this riffraff into the room?” became “Are there any remnants?”
“If I had my way, I’d have all of you shot!” became, “I don’t want anyone to get hurt (wink, wink).”
No wonder Michael Gerson is concerned.
Gerson is peddling the idea that Trumpism is an alien parasite attacking the party.
It’s pretty clear who is looking at the Republican party from another planet.
So according to Gerson, the Republican party is defined by compassion, tolerance, and an agenda of social justice. I just can’t with this guy.
Well, it was a different planet 150 years ago. As it was 100 years ago, when Republican progressives were a common species. If Gerson hasn’t noticed by now that all the progressives have left the Republican party, there’s not much you or I can do for him.
Here’s one way of isolating the split. How often is it today that we hear any Republican (or Democrat, for that matter) explicitly calling for a larger government? But here’s Theodore Roosevelt:
Of course, that’s from the New Nationalism speech, which TR delivered not as a Republican but as a Progressive. But that’s just the point that Gerson is missing.
I still have to wonder what he’s actually doing. Does he really want to be president? He’d be like the dog who caught the car. I’m pretty sure he’s intelligent enough to know he won’t actually be able to do most of the shit he says he’s going to do, nor does he want to. And as far as he’s concerned, the pay is chump change.
He’s obviously not doing it for the possible pay. And he’d become even more insufferable if he somehow happened to get elected in November.
Perhaps he isn’t really thinking that far ahead. He’s a colossal narcissist, so he’s got to be enjoying all the attention. And not just attention, but slavish adoration from his followers. So he may just be reveling in it, and not really thinking about where it leads to.
As far as I can tell, it’s 99.4% an ego trip for Mr. Trump.
He’d LOVE to be president.
Can you say “impeachment”? I knew you could?
I’m telling you, we need a Sinclair Lewis book club.
Norman Spinrad’s The Iron Dream is another title that comes to mind.
Kornbluth’s Marching Morons is another.
I agree that it’s all a big ego trip for Trump. Listen to his comments about actual governing: he knows nothing about the Constitution that he hasn’t gotten as Cliff Notes talking points. He claims to be a superior businessman, but he’s had to be bailed out of bankruptcy. He claims to have economic strategies for building industry in the US, but he has yet to spell them out. We know he’s an empty suit.
When I (incredulously) ask people I know who want Trump for president, they dismiss any of my questions about his abilities or his absurd promises. I hear over and over that he’s “bold” and a “natural leader” and a “no nonsense” business executive. I get nothing of substance and it scares me that they don’t care that it’s all a charade for him.
I think too many thought he would fizzle out by now and now they don’t know what do to control him. Fact is, they never had a plan of their own to manage him as a Republican, and now they want to him to just go away.
Fat chance.
Has he been living under a rock for the past thirty-five years? “St. Reagan” rallied and consolidated the folks that became the GOP base. Miffed because Trump horned in on the action they’ve been milking for decades?
Trump is no less clueless and not aiming to do anything “St. Ronnie” had been planning for decades before 1980. The one difference between “St. Ronnie” in 1980 and Trump 2015 is that the latter is cognitively more lucid. Is that why he scares them? Not so easy to plop him down in a chair and recite his lines on TV and then went off to bed while the GOP henchmen did their dirty deeds under “St Reagan’s” authority? Well, y’all have been pining for the next “St. Reagan” for decades, and now he’s here. Quit whining that y’all will have to work a bit harder to finagle the authority from his to do whatever is now on your “to do” lists, and it won’t be as easy to wear your creepy “masks of sanity,” but Cheney demonstrated that the masks aren’t necessary.
Good points vis St Ronnie v Trump. But why Trump scares the PTB is that St Ronnie (and W) was THEIR creature, whereas Trump is his own man. THAT’s what scares them. Yes, Trump is the logical end game post-Reagan (really, post Nixon, when Lee Atwater’s Southern Strategy took off), but Reagan & W were docile poodles of their Masters.
Trump? Not so much. PTB? No likey.
Reagan’s run for the nomination and presidency had all the sceptical surrealism of Trump’s effort at this point. His nomination and subsequent election was a profound shock to some as I recall; clearly a turning point and not an uplifting one.
I don’t recall that it was that way at all. However, work/home commitments and pressures left me with almost no time to pay attention to the nomination — plus, CA didn’t matter. OTOH, Reagan had two terms as CA governor on his resume (and hadn’t ushered in an extreme GOP agenda and during a period when the CA economy did well enough) and that gave him creds that Trump doesn’t have.
A ‘himbo’ actor who co-starred with chimpanzees and did notoriously Bircher-style ‘public service’ announcements for the fringe Right? That he was governor of California seemed more of a commentary on the state than the candidate. Just speaking from memory; I wasn’t engaged in the process or even in the States at the time.
To be honest it took me by surprise; I’ve had to dumb-down my estimation of the electorate ever since and they haven’t disappointed.
What took you so long? CA led the way on this beginning in 1964 by electing George Murphy to the Senate. Then ’66 Reagan as governor. Then CA and the nation chose Nixon in ’68. (But CA did at least have the good sense to reject Max Rafferty for the Senate. And in 1970 sent Murphy packing, but his D replacement only lasted one term as well in favor of another not qualified outsider.)
I misconstrued Watergate as a lesson, along with the Church Committee. Looking back now it seems Nixon’s second term was just practice, not malpractice.
We don’t learn lessons quickly or easily in this country. If we did, we wouldn’t have engaged in the $4 trillion Iraq War.
Should also add that 1980 was during a period when two terms for a sitting POTUS was the expected outcome of Presidential elections.
“You know it’s sort of fun. Isn’t this more exciting?” Trump added. “You know, you go to a Hillary thing. It’s like, boring. You go to a Jeb thing and you fall asleep.”
I didn’t witness any of this, but this stood out for me. I’ve never watched one nanosecond of any of his tv shows (did he have more than one? I don’t know). All I know is that Trump was born on third base, has managed to have several casinos go into bankruptcy (which I hear is allegedly hard to have happen, but I don’t know). And it’s clear that he’s a yoooge hambone show boat narcissistic asshole who loves loves loves attention and excitement and yelling at people he decides he doesn’t like.
The comment, above, seems to sum him up. “Isn’t this fun? It’s not boring.” Well, it’s dead boring to ME, but who am I? Clearly, his slavering base find him infinitely appealing and totally enthralling. But Trump’s base is mostly compiled of the same 27% who are surgically attached to Fox/Rush with all their shouty-ness and fascistic crap, so no surprise. The base has become addicted to the grand sports spectacle and are willing cheerleaders for “their team.”
In other words: lots of circuses (but no bread for you, SUCKAHS!!!).
And frankly, why would his marks care whether Trump knows what he’s doing or not?? All the GOPers have witnessed over the past 7 years, in particular, is a totally DO-NOTHING GOP-led House. Why should a GOP POTUS know how to do anything? W certainly didn’t have a clue, and except until the end, the base loved him too. Ditto in spades for Reagan. Nowadays, a perspective GOP POTUS clearly doesn’t have to be a “leader.” The rightwing has been suitably trained to agree that just being a loud-mouthed (ala Rush or Billo) racist, sexist, homophobic, obstructionist jerk is – quite simply – enough!
That’s my take.
“You know it’s sort of fun. Isn’t this more exciting?” Trump added.
Does seem to know the psychology of casino gambling and how to make it fun and addictive in the short run for most people.
“You’re curious about just how far this can go.” Thus said Trump in what, July? Or was it later?
Watching what Trump does next has gotten him lots of free media time and attention.
His value proposition pitches wanting Trump personally, not his policy positions or platform — if your can find them — for President. Essentially, do you want to see my shtick in the White House and trolling the world leaders. A performance audition as spokesperson for the anger of his constituency. No governance, just spokesperson. Reduction of the executive to the press secretary. But that’s not Trump’s operating style. He operates everything as his privately-owned demesne.
He trolls the hard-right Republican fascists with his statements and then backs off as if toying with them in order to preserve his political respectability among the hook-set media. And then he sets the next troll line. He knows how the media works well enough to skillfully play them and the audience for Trump and Trumpism.
Throughout, “trolling” refers to the fishing analogy.
What does he do when he catches the car? Where does he get his cabinet? What does he put before Congress? Who are his domestic and foreign network? Who’s in his Rolodex, to use an archaic expression.
If he wins the majority of the super tuesday primaries, this won’t be a problem. Those seeking cabinet position to continue the GOtP decimation of American democracy and middle class will line up tom “support” him no matter what they are saying today.
ALEC has it written already, just waiting for somebody like him to push their crap thru.
Whom ever wants to climb that side of the GOtP power ladder.
If he looks like he is going to win, most everyone who wants in on the action.
Remember Reagan and Bush Sr had no problem forming their team.
GOtPers fall in line,
just not the rubes
but losing politicos also ….
If he wins they will fall in line behind him, no matter what they say now.
If I had to guess right now,
Ted Cruz is high up on his list for VP,
Jeb? not so much.
That whole Michael Gerson thing is just so awful.
I’m tired of their crass manipulation of historical frameworks, in either direction, whether it’s Scalia et al. with their constructivist bullshit or this argument where they keep referring to Lincoln. (Who was that candidate recently who spoke to a black college audience and told them that “they may not realize” that Lincoln was a republican? Expecting them to all stand there paralyzed, mouths agape, in “mind=blown” mode?)
And the comments aren’t much better. Who’s the cretin who starts it off by saying that “as bad as Trump is” he’d be preferable to Clinton? Where the hell are these people coming from? I’m hardly Hillary’s biggest fan but I know she’d be a doctrinaire technocrat (on the warmongering side); a more beligerent Kerry…where do these people get this crazy idea that she represents some kind of horrifying existential disaster? Don’t they remember the bliss of the Clinton years? (She’ll be dull, is what I’m saying.)
As the insanity of the Nurem…oops, Burlington rallies escalates, the chief issue is now the massive crapification and imbecility of the American voter. We have given up all thought of relevant experience or qualifications for office, apparently including the presidency. We have been effectively cretinized, and thus anything and anyone now makes perfect sense for prez. From Cruz to Trump to Carson to the Boy Wonder.
And Gerson of course had his disgusting part to play, as he comically imagines that he spent his life advancing the virtues and ideals of Lincoln(!) in 20th century America by championing the “conservative” movement. Lincoln the “Conservative”, of all things. Could one be more deluded and clueless?
Anyway, manipulating and enraging the ignorant and fearful voter was the critical component in the success of the Hitler movement in the 20s and 30s, although one could argue that the Germans of the day were not too adept at “democracy”, having been happy monarchists until 1918.
But with a failure of education and information distributing and processing, and decades of Rightwing sewage being broadcast 24/7 nationwide, the Marketplace of Ideas has been polluted beyond functioning, which was an intentional strategy of the “conservative” movement from St Reagan onward–which Der Trumper (or Tail-gunner Ted) has now swept in to usurp from its proper (elite-approved) Great Leader.
Arguably the (paper-based) German press did a better job informing ordinary Germans of the reality of Herr Hitler, yet it ultimately did not matter. Our useless corporate media can be expected to keep reveling in the “Show”, perhaps tut-tutting a bit—but as Der Trumper preens and struts, with political violence in the streets and Rightwing militias doing more and more heavily armed “protests”, it is definitely not “boring”. We have lost “boring” politics for a good while…
Italy had blackshirts.
Germany had brownshirts.
The US will have camoshirts. I mean, fuck, we already see ’em walking around, armed, and threatening people and democracy.
Dude, get out of my head – this is exactly what I thought of when I read about this story this morning!
I started a reply. It grew. Now a standalone post.
Trump-You Cannot Laugh A Clown Offstage. Pt. II
Please comment there.
AG
“There’s a remnant.”
That stuck out to me the moment I heard him say it. Very eliminationist of him.