As good as this piece is, it’s missing something critical. Profs. Jacob S. Hacker and Paul Pierson have identified why the Republicans have managed to hit high-water marks in the states and in the House of Representatives during the same era in which they’ve done very poorly on the presidential level. What they don’t consider, however, is that the Republican Party has no necessary relationship to the Conservative Movement, nor does the balance of its fiscal, defense, and socially conservative factions have to remain constant.
Donald Trump can’t break the Grand Old Party, but he can reshuffle it. Whether he does or doesn’t, however, the Republicans are about to have a reckoning.
It’s true that the Republicans are fairly comfortable as an opposition party. Having spent most of the time since FDR’s election in 1933 in the congressional minority, they are suspicious of federal power, contemptuous of federal programs, and ill-suited for the job of running our federal agencies. They don’t want to lose presidential elections, but their higher priority is being able to obstruct the normal functioning of government rather than see to it that it runs smoothly.
For social conservatives, they want local control of schools and the right to discriminate. Fiscal conservatives want lower taxes and less intrusive regulations. Military hawks want money spent on military hardware, not school lunches and addiction recovery programs.
But things have been coming apart for a while now, and Donald Trump really has nothing to do with how the fissures have begun to open up within the Conservative Movement. While social conservatives want local control, what they want more than anything else is to control the courts, particularly with the long term goal of banning abortion. They cannot accomplish that if they keep losing presidential elections. Their concerns are the primary reason why the Senate Republicans will not capitulate on Scalia’s seat until after the ballots are cast in November. The party can’t afford to demoralize their Christian foot soldiers.
The business community wants lows taxes and lax regulations, but they also want our bills paid on time and they’d like to see substantial infrastructure spending. The bargain they made with the social conservatives doesn’t include defaulting on our debts and letting our bridges crumble. They also want free trade agreements and relatively liberal immigration policies. And they don’t want their corporate brands sullied by association with anti-gay or anti-Latino bigotry.
The hawks want nothing to do with the isolationists, and they know that foreign policy is ultimately set by the executive branch, so they’re the least complacent of all the conservative factions about their inability to win presidential elections.
These fissures have become so painful and so evident that they’re splintering the heretofore united front of conservative media. And this is probably more consequential that most people realize. Profs. Hacker and Pierson understand how geographical, demographic, and ideological sorting favors the Republican Party (allowing them, for example, to easily win the House in 2012 despite getting fewer votes). What they don’t consider is how key it is for the right to be able to speak to their constituents with one voice and one message. Nuance is the death of right-wing movements, and the Republican voter is getting inundated with nuance these days.
What appears to be dying is not the Republican Party, which, given enough time, could easily morph into either America’s socialist party or its National Front. It’s the Conservative Movement that is in real trouble, not the party they seized control of in the latter half of the 20th-Century.
It’s simply not true that the Republicans can hold together indefinitely under this kind of pressure. I believe the proof of this is what we’re all witnessing right now.
The fact that the Republican Party could not put up a single decent candidate speaks volumes for the party and its disarray. The old school Conservatives I’ve spoken with are disgusted by Trump and say he simply doesn’t represent the party they’ve always known. Yet Cruz is such a radical religious freak that they can’t get behind him, either. And Kasich seems like the mild mannered grownup in the bunch, but his fiscal record in our state of Ohio should shoot red flags all over the place.
I hope the GOP does implode. Someone has to be held accountable for their descent into insanity and it can start with the elections in November.
And Kasich seems like the mild mannered grownup in the bunch, but his fiscal record in our state of Ohio should shoot red flags all over the place.
He’s a nutter on abortion as well.
The only way Kasich would be a descent president is with Democratic congressional majorities. Otherwise its extreme conservatism all the way.
As evidenced by what has happened here in Ohio, where he has largely enjoyed a super-majority in the legislature. Kasich will stick a knife in your back the same as Scott Walker. The only difference is Kasich will do it with that folksy, aw shucks smile; while he’s telling you a story about how his daddy, the postman, brought him up with those hard working midwestern values.
As you know intimately, Governor Kasich and the Ohio Legislature stuck a knife in the backs of working people early in his first term, and only a State referendum which smashed the law eviscerating Union power prevented outcomes similar to those which have been suffered by residents in Walker’s Wisconsin. (Unfortunately, Wisconsin’s Constitution does not allow the electorate to put laws up to referenda rejection.)
Here’s a great moment in “moderate” leadership:
He and the Legislature didn’t meaningfully negotiate with the State Unions at all, and then acted all aggrieved and insulting when they responded after the Law’s passage by saying, “Meet you at the ballot box, Governor.” How’d that turn out?
http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/11/ohio_voters_overwhelmingly_rej.html
“The referendum on the law, which was Issue 2 on the ballot, was defeated 61 percent to 39 percent in a major victory for unions representing the 360,000 public employees whose power the law would have significantly curtailed.”
Way to read your electorate, Mister Moderate.
I am not sure that I will ever live to see a better moment of cosmic justice than the repudiation of Kasich’s signature Tea Party overreach on public sector unions. The depressing part is that they now have a much better template on how to accomplish what Kasich tried to ham-handedly ram through in the early days of his administration. They will continue to refine this, and the sad part is that there is a damn good chance they will ultimately be successful here.
I’m aware of some of the challenges there; would be happy to be schooled on the latest going down in Ohiostan.
We need to start winning more elections in your State, Brother.
Coincidentally, I just saw Think Progress story from last summer about Kasich, which touches on a few of his most egregious actions. What he has done to public schools with his charter school fetish should be enough, on its own, to demonstrate what a wolf in sheep’s clothing this man is. He is wrecking the public school system in Ohio, specifically the poorer districts who just don’t have the wherewithal in their own particular tax bases to feed both charter schools and public schools with their tax dollars. He is, at his core, a die hard Tea Party man, whose ultimate dream would be privatization of all public functions.
And he’s such a nice, respectful, honest guy, too:
Even if the Repubicans figure out a way to maneuver him into the nomination, I’m not worried. We would have plenty to say about him in the general election campaign, personally and politically.
Well, the Democrats could only put up one decent candidate and are trying their best to stop him.
Booman won’t even go that far, he said both are bad candidates.
IMO whats happening on both sides is that the current sixth party system is ending but the elites think the status quo works great for them so they tighten their grip on the system ™ and being brittle, it splinters. It’s worse on the republican side because they have more sociopaths and there’s no party mouthpiece like the dems so dems can accomodate more chaos.
Yes, I agree with you.
I don’t know if you intended that the way I’m going with it (after all, you could have just meant “decent” in the common vernacular sense, e.g., “X would be a much better pitcher if he just had a decent slider”.
Intentional or not, though, I think you’ve touched on a major element of the horribleness of the modern GOP/”conservative movement”: the absence (or perhaps better, rejection, repudiation) of basic human decency. Empathy (oh how they love to mock that!), the Golden Rule, etc.
The business community wants lows taxes and lax regulations, but they also want our bills paid on time and they’d like to see substantial infrastructure spending.
One does not go with the other. Low taxes gets you under-investment.
The bargain they made with the social conservatives doesn’t include defaulting on our debts and letting our bridges crumble.
Then why do they fund their campaigns?
They also want free trade agreements and relatively liberal immigration policies. And they don’t want their corporate brands sullied by association with anti-gay or anti-Latino bigotry.
Then, again, why do they fund their campaigns?
It’s the ROI when those little sweeteners get added to bills that HAVE to pass.
You can keep taxes low and spend on infrastructure if you’re willing to borrow. The Rs borrow like mad when they have the WH, then scream about the debt when they’re out of power. It demonstrates pretty clearly that the anti-debt rhetoric is there only to keep the little people in line for no taxes on the rich.
In addition to debt financing of their priorities, this is the reason the oligarchs and corporatists prioritize the demagoguery and destruction of the “entitlement” programs. They want to use that money to keep their taxes low while funding only the infrastructure programs and corporate welfare they want.
It’s so profoundly exhausting that we’re still fighting this goddamned elementary battle so many decades in a row.
I still have these arguments with Conservative relatives: “Tax and spend;” the Democrats “give out ‘free stuff'”; “makers vs. takers”; “supply side” etc. etc.
It doesn’t matter how many times I say “You’re getting fleeced” (or how conclusively I can demonstrate it). It’s just this same fucking idiotic Calvinist idea about how the wealthy are the deserving, and the indigent are never victims; they’re always screwups and vagrants…part of a “dependency culture.”
I’m just so damn sick of it all. (Sorry for venting.)
Safe place for venting over here. Fleeced and bamboozled they are, and dragging many down with them.
Hey! We agree on something!
What’s wrong?
That’s the spirit, Voice. Happy to experience kumbayas with you.
Some people are just plain mean.
That’s the hard truth of the matter.
It’s very well vented. There’s always a place for a valid, righteous rant.
“The business community wants lows taxes and lax regulations, but they also want our bills paid on time and they’d like to see substantial infrastructure spending. The bargain they made with the social conservatives doesn’t include defaulting on our debts and letting our bridges crumble. They also want free trade agreements and relatively liberal immigration policies. And they don’t want their corporate brands sullied by association with anti-gay or anti-Latino bigotry.”
Remind me why they are not New Democrats??? Taxes? Pffft.
They don’t want increases in the minimum wage; they don’t want equal pay for women; they don’t want increased taxes on unearned income; they don’t want more unionization; they don’t want better rules on overtime and part-time; they don’t want Obamacare; and they want Social Security cut.
There’s a reason the Chamber of Commerce works so hard to get all Dems out of office, including the New Dems.
Wait, don’t the Democrats — oops, I mean the Other Republican Party — not want any of those too?
I mean, I do have the internet.
I googled for any recent legislation on those subjects…mostly came up blank, sadly.
Do remember Obamacare and some 7ys overdue executive actions to repeal Bush’s. Oh, well.
But maybe I missed some…
Yes, you did: Lily Ledbetter, the ACA (which also included a millionaire’s tax increase), card check got filibustered but it was supported by a majority of Democrats, and Obama improved overtime rules for federal contractors.
And expect action on every one of these to be in the Dem platform in July.
Hmm, bad googling on my part. I should have gotten the LL Act.
They don’t all hate Obamacare. I gives an excuse to not have employer insurance, except for execs.
Yeah, I thought business was pretty much onboard with Obamacare–it gave for-profit medicine a statutory thumbs up.
LOL.
https:/www.uschamber.com/letter/hr-3590-patient-protection-and-affordable-care-act-and-related-budg
et-reconciliation
https:
/www.uschamber.com/letter/key-vote-letter-hr-6079-repeal-obamacare-act
Yeah. Guess NOT. lol
You are correct, Trump is the symptom, not the cause. Sanders is the symptom of the breakup of the Democratic Party not the cause.
Maybe Trump is the cure? Far from perfect, but if he can pivot from minority (including women) bashing in the general election and retain his true believers, the party will have shed all those “social issues” that have been handicapping them at the national level.
Are you seeing Trump as the rump, or the continuation of the party? They can get away with deficit spending on the national level, but they are consuming their capital at the state level. Already La is using state banditry to finance small towns. AAA soon be issuing alerts, lol, for motorists crossing Republican states.
I’m sure they have an army of “think tank” guys working on gaming it out. Probably banking on riding DEM debt fueled austerity long enough for a big financial crash with a DEM in the WH.
Hell, they might just engineer it if they could. (Snark?)
Well, as they say, timing is everything. It’s engineering it on schedule that’s the difficult part. (They came so close on the financial meltdown, but it arrived a year too early.)
Yeah, Bush’s two drops of helicopter money to the proles did stave it off for a while.
I’m expecting the FED to start buying state and municipal bonds. It’s actually not a bad idea.
By what measures would that be a good idea? To free up capital for investors and banks on sitting on? Has the “free market” lost the ability to price state and muni bonds? If so, the US economy is in worse shape than the public recognizes and it’s probably preferable that we confront that instead of using another gimmick to hide that from ourselves.
Relieving the pressure on states like Illinois and (?)California. Providing a buyer of last resort.
During QE, the Fed was owed interest on the bonds they bought out of the market but donate it to the Treasury instead of taking it. I envision the same for the states and cites. Detroit wouldn’t have been bankrupt if the FED bought their paper. yes, it would have rescued the bond holders also. It’s not lily white, but better IMHO than TARP.
Not a great idea to use the FED as the buyer of last resort. We also need to be careful in evaluating the precipitates that created “pressure on states …” before federal lifelines are thrown to cities/states. Wealth and capital fled Detroit and Flint (to suburban areas and out of state and country) and left behind poor people that didn’t have the means to maintain the city. We know who the victims and culprits are (and some of the culprits are the USG and thus, all of us). The questions are how to recapture some of that wealth and the correctives to compensate the victims.
We have much modern history about cities that have been economically decimated and how some have been restored, but even in those instances not well thought out and sustainable because people that are necessary to maintain the functioning of the cities can’t afford to live there. Not just cities, but also many outer ring communities are similarly havens for the rich and workers have to live elsewhere and commute. Ghastly.
I will give them credit for trying to do something, unlike the US Congress that seems bent on the total destruction of the economy and unlike the White House that just tries to convince the public that there is no problem with our “vibrant growing economy”.
The first two rounds of QE were total failures as far as getting funds to Main Street. All they did was give free money to oligarchs to buy up real assets. And cause great mischief around the world. And, we are inflating bubbles here again, imo. We live from bubble to bubble under neoliberalism.
Some states are selling bonds to extend and pretend while they loot the place. God forbid raising a tax.
Detroit did not go bankrupt, it was forced by the failure of the state to provide the usual transfer payments to recompense her for her subsidy of surrounding suburbs with city services–a net loss for most metropolitan areas.
Michigan law restricts local leaders’ ability to raise property and income taxes, and the legislature has slashed the money it shares with cities in recent years.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/flint-lead-water-contamination-money-220391#ixzz44rlsbZkS
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http://grist.org/cities/starving-the-cities-to-feed-the-suburbs/ (some good comments)
Also negative interest coming soon. Citibank just lowered my savings account from 0.06% to 0.03%. As I explained to my daughter if you deposit $10,000, every month you will earn a shiny new quarter. (BTW, I only get 13 cents, just an aggravation to keep the account balanced.)
That’s a function of the TBTF multi-national financial institutions. There was a reason why interstate banking was banned with the New Deal.
I just totally disagree the Sanders signifies a breakup of the Party.
Sanders represents a return to party orthodoxy and a rejection of the DLC approach. (The DLC approach probably was good strategy at the time. But that was then) He’s proposing things the Democrats have been proposing for a long long time.
Trump is NOT a return to GOP orthodoxy. He is someone who has forcefully rejected GOP orthodoxy. And from time to time, he actually makes a little sense because of that.
Trump will irrevocably alter the GOP, win or lose, and he seems to have a very destructive personality, so some weird things could happen here. There is huge potential for GOP damage with this guy.
I just don’t see Sanders having the same effect. If anything Sanders’s successes could strengthen the party and advance he could his agenda if he plays this smartly.
Agreed. Not so sure he’s playing it smartly at the moment though. It’s always tough to take the politics out of politics, and it’s going to be interesting to see what happens if he makes it to the general and needs help from some of the evil sold-out folks he’s been bashing.
Depends on if his goal is power by any means or reform of our political system. If he just comes close, it inspires someone younger and more dynamic to follow his path instead of becoming another politburo apparatchik.
But when you go look at Trump’s tax plan or his budget “team,” it’s just the same old shit.
He’s so over his head, so ignorant, that any time he has to produce any kind of substantive, programmatic data, he bluffs and stalls and then prints out the same loose-leaf binders they’ve had on their hard drives since the 1980s.
His rhetoric and his style are innovative, but the policies are just reheated conservative pablum. As we’ve seen with the abortion thing (last week), pin Trump down and all the “innovation” disappears.
He is splitting the party between the idealists and the corrupt. And I welcome that split.
We need a DBAD button.
Nine million Americans have voted for Hillary, with at least that many more to come. Just because we don’t agree with you does not make us corrupt. And insulting your fellow Democrats sure as hell doesn’t make a better party.
You think taking Wall Street money and putting it in your pocket as a $200,000 an hour speaking fee is not corrupt. You think taking more black hole super-PAC money and using it to bribe super-delegates is not corrupt. I say it is. If you think slipping your Alderman $100 to make a building inspector go away is just good politics, then by all means vote Clinton.
When you and others say we have to vote against our economic interests because that’s the party’s candidate, when you say that honesty is for children and politics is all about who collects the biggest bribes, then I say I want no part of your party.
I think you have interpreted situations through your hate. And that to imply that our economic interests will be better served by the GOP is ridiculous. And that if you are more willing to assume that the majority of the Democratic voters are corrupt than to believe that we may have different experiences and assumptions than you do, then perhaps you are right, and this isn’t the party for you.
We’re going to do the best we can to help as many people as possible with what we can realistically achieve. I’m sorry that isn’t pure enough for you.
I think you have interpreted situations through your hate.
That will work as a response from those exposed by The Panama Papers. Never, ever about the corruption, greed, graft, secret wealth havens of those lining their pockets and the rubes that think they’re swell. The ones to disparage and revile are those that shine a spotlight on the vermin. Except when the vermin are on the enemy list of some country and its rubes. Then it’s always about the corruption, greed, graft, secret wealth havens.
But hey, why bother sullying your beautiful mind with abstract and mature principles, values, ethics, etc. when sorting the world into good and bad people like a ten year is easy and good enough.
“our economic interests will be better served by the GOP”
I didn’t say that. As AG says there are two halves of the Permagov.
Voice, don’t know if this twitter link to Mathew Ingram will work, but it’s in regard to The Panama Papers (ref The Guardian).
The reality of those disclosures probably won’t come anywhere near my fantasies but until then I can dream.
Well let’s first see how much of the Panama Papers survives the light of day. David Cameron has already called for an investigation of tax havens as if he has just heard of them for the first time. The hypocrisy meter is going through the roof: it’s all about Putin, the devil incarnate, the cause of all misery on earth and throughout the cosmos. Do you know what makes Bernie Sanders so special: he says the shit, in the first place, is right in front of your face and is caused by our own people, the people who call you their friend and turning over backwards to fight for you by enriching themselves.
I spent a little time reading about it.
Much more than Putin and his oligarch friends,
This moves into quite a few countries, Iceland, Syria, Saudi Arabia, China, UK, France, Germany, Uganda, #Pakistan DRC, Botswana, Namibia, Azerbaijan, Sierra Leone, Guinea, Senegal, Mali, Tunisia. South Africa, the US etc.
more than 200 countries and territories
The amount of data is staggering.
Wikileaks was 1.7 gigabytes, this is 2.6 terabytes.
11.5m files time-frame from 1977-2015.
72 current or former heads of state in the data
Linked to both the yuuge corruption scandal currently rocking Brazil and the FIFA scandal.
This one will grow, especially given the large dispersement of documents through out the worlds media.
107 media organisations in 78 countries
and no the NYT, WAPO nor fuax news are on that list.
Spearheaded by the, International Consortium of Investigative Journalists
https://www.icij.org/about
Suddeutsche Zeitung the BBC and the Guardian are leading it ….
this one ain’t gonnin’ away.
Not even if the permagov(C)AG in both the US and Russia wanted it to do so.
See Billmon for a less knee-jerk take on the Panama Papers media splash: http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/04/selected-leak-of-the-panamapapers-creates-huge-blackmail-potent
ial.html#comments
What he misses is, this isn’t the end, but only the beginning.
How secure is the data?
How much can somebody from like wikileaks find out,
and then release?
They just embarrassed the IMF vis a vis Greek bailout;
https:/medium.com/mosquito-ridge/imf-plots-new-credit-event-for-greece-534b4b300318#.8bbohdwmz
What happens if they start releasing things that aren’t supposed to slip out.
Things the fit closer to their agenda, not the initial leaker’s?
Iceland’s prime minister already is facing a no confidence vote over this.
He has gone under the bus, … by design, who knows?
But so is Ukranian President Petro Poroshenko ….
https:
http://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/ukraine-poroshenko-offshore
But it also is influencing the vote in the Netherlands about Ukrainian NATO membership. Not in any way Soro’s would want either.
So which corruption is worse Putins or Poroshenkos
What other blowback is waiting in the wings?
Another question I foresee, what do the people who depended on this operation to hide their money do? Can they ignore it, or do they have to try to find new ways to hide?
What deals might they pre-emptively made out of fear?
Also how do the numerous prosecution entities around the world react? Do they stay with in the “party lines” or go to court trying to seize the intell they need for their cases.
But the most intriguing question to me, is how to keep all the journalists to stay on script, and just publish the “approved stories” .. next week, or next month.
like I said;
They have opened Pandora’s box to release what they wanted, now how do they keep it shut?
Just heard the first of this on NPR this morning. Didn’t catch (if it was said) who did (or is “thought” to have done) the leaking.
Has that been revealed? Is there any even reasonably informed speculation? (I’m sure there’ll be plenty of wild, baseless guesses, rumor-mongering, etc.)
They’re taking this quite seriously;
Australian tax office probes hundreds for possible tax evasion after Panama leak
and NZ is also looking into this;
Like I said;
Not by a long shot ….
a big deal.
Just curious who the source of the original leakage was, if that’s known.
Not known except to the German news outlet, Suddeutsche Zeitung, and they aren’t saying right now. They claim it’s part of the agreement that got them the data in the first place.
Suddeutsche Zeitung says the source claims to be an insider. SZ claims he or she is anonymous to them, and presumably isn’t willing to share tracking data to find them.
Very interesting.
For good measure take a look at this one too: http://off-guardian.org/2016/04/03/panama-papers-cause-guardian-to-collapse-into-self-parody/
Hilarious.
In a first past the post electoral system, you are always going to have a binary two party dynamic with the rest almost nowhere even when they get substantial support from the electorate.
However the two parties can flip their ideological allegiances at times of crises. The party of slavery became the party of civil rights.
There is no reason why, for instance, the neo-cons can’t flee their nests in the GOP and suddenly become Democrats again. Hillary could be their enabler.
The world of global corporations also has little in common with Joe’s diner or the garage mechanic running a small business down the road. The global corporates have already largely co-opted the Democratic Party, and they want trade deals, immigration, and don’t care much about conservative/religious social values.
So if the Democrats aren’t very careful, they could find themselves co-opted by the conservative movement much like a parasite invades and sometimes takes over its host.
A Hillary vs. Trump election could bring that dynamic into play, but it might not be the conservative movement which is destroyed, but the Democratic party as the home of progressive politics.
I think we are much on the same page. I think is the Rotarian/Chamber of Commerce tradition that has slowed them down, perhaps. Progressives really are not appreciated when they behave as anything but a convenient label.
Well, as an active leader in my California Democratic Party, I’ll be damned if we’ll allow the Party to be unsupportive of progressive politics and policies. That hasn’t happened, even with the struggles of recent decades, and it wouldn’t happen under either of the Party’s current POTUS candidates.
Judging by your many posts, your definition of “progressive”is at the least highly suspect.
You are ” an active leader in [your] California Democratic Party?”
Oh.
I understand now.
AG
Arthur Gilroy, gatekeeper of progressivism, what with his support for Ron and Rand Paul, voter ID laws, opposition to unemployment insurance and other social welfare programs, apocalyptic and insulting lecturing meant to divide rather than persuade, etc.
I only “divide” the fools from the thinkers, centerfielddj. I finally get your blog handle. You are “center field” to a fault, another lockstep, neoliberal centrist with delusions of competence.
But…at least you’re not alone.
You…and your neocon brethren…rule this country.
For now.
Enjoy it now, podna.
Judging from the success of the Trump and Sanders candidacies this time around, it’s later than you think.
Bet on it.
AG
Ouch, Arthur Gilroy calls centerfielddj out. You just figured out his blog handle? And how it bites. This commenter may have undergone an epiphany of sorts. Is he same centerfield who took his ball and went home not so long ago, dramatically announcing he would no longer comment here. I wonder. It seems almost an invasion of Daily Kos!
You write:
You mean…it’s not!!!???
Who’da thunk?
AG
P.S. I figured out his handle long ago. Give a writer some room for effect, please.
P.P.S. I have a professional dislike for DJs, too. They are the enemies of musicians and act as parasites on the hard work of others.
The neocons have always hated the Clintons. They tried and tried to get him to go to war with Iraq and failed. They know perfectly well they won’t get their policies out of Hillary – they only prefer her over Trump because Trump’s shenanigans might endanger the United States as a country and it’s ability to field a war machine they’ll hope to regain once Hillary’s gone.
They got Hillary to vote for their Iraq war. Or is history being revised by her Ministry of Truth again?
Under continuous revision. Depends upon what’s selling best today. White-out is one of her larger line-item expenses. She’s still learning how to do her own hard-drive cleaning.
You write:
You are so wrong, curtadams. You have swallowed the Governmental Media Complex-promoted PermaGov fix bullshit hook, line and s(
t)inker. The Clintons have been…and remain…an integral part of that fix. So were the fixed (s)elections of Bush II and Obama. Wake the fuck up. Please!!!AG
“they’re splintering the heretofore united front of conservative media. “
This is SO true.
I listen to a lot of am radio, for sport.
Guys like Mark Levin and Glenn Beck have gone completely off the rails lately. There is no consensus. Trump has split the party decisively.
At the same time, lots of rank and file now consider Fox News part of the mainstream media (!). A neat trick.
The real question is: how permanent will these derangements be?
It’s almost better for them to let Trump take the nomination and then let him lose the election. Then Trump shuffles off, total loser; no need to really take any of this too seriously. And the message will be: next time listen to the party professionals, we told you so, we told you so.
But If they don’t nominate Trump, well, who knows what happens next?
Ypu write:
What???
You mean it isn’t???
Listen up, bt1138. Fox is the rightiness wing of the centrist media, just as MSNBC is the leftiness wing and CNN/NBC/CBS/ABC are the center of that system.
All you need to know about that idea…if of course you are not an eyes-wide-closed, trance media-hypnotized, card-carrying member of the clomp-clomp-clomping Sleeple People Brigade…is the way Fox went after non-“centrist” Donald Trump. His candidacy challenges the Permanent Government’s electorally-fixed monopoly even more than does Sanders’s candidacy, and what do you see? The rightiness, leftiness and centriness media all doff their disguises and go after him with everything they’ve got.
Wake the fuck up.
AG
Hey AG, can I get some of what you are drinking? I need to out my aggression later when I go play ball. Love the intensity.
What am I drinking?
Truth serum.
What am I doing here?
Playing ball.
Truthball.
Bet on it.
AG
Deal wid it.
AG
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“A new report by Dider Jacobs at the Center for Popular Economics offers a breathtaking estimate of how the rich have gotten richer in recent years. According to Jacobs’analysis, 74% of billionaire wealth in America was gained through rent-seeking, or socially useless activity.
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…because rents do not compensate productive activities, redistributing them through taxes or regulation does not harm the economy, and could even boost economic growth. As wealth inequality has become so extreme, even modest redistribution could have significant positive impact for the poor and the middle class. (http://www.populareconomics.org/are-billionaires-fat-cats-or-deserving-entrepreneurs/)
https:/shadowproof.com/2016/03/27/report-74-of-billionaire-wealth-from-rent-seeking
Thomas Frank can go phuck himself. He believes that Democrats should be wasting time chasing after that certain group of White working -class voters that have spent generations voting against their own self -interests.
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I agree with you on Thomas Frank. For years, every time I’ve encountered him on my teevee, he just makes me want to spit. He’s no friend of the Democratic party which, while imperfect, is still the best vehicle for implementing liberal and progressive policies.
Obviously you didn’t read the first of the two linked articles. Nor do you seem to have read “What’s the Matter with Kansas” and understand his critiques.
At the mayoral level, the City of Detroit has been run by a Democrat since 1970 and the city council has been dominated by Democrats for at least as long. How has that been working — for the people?
I read neither of the two articles and don’t intend to. My opinion about him was formed quite some time ago but reading your comments here I can ken that he’s someone with whom you’d identify.
The problems of Detroit go beyond party. It is the story of a city deserted by the very corporations which built it, leaving behind a large class of people who were once employed at middle class wage levels in its now shuttered factories. While the Democratic governance may not be stellar, it’s failures in the face of overwhelming economic woes and the flight of its tax base are entirely understandable. Certainly the Republican takeover of Detroit and other cities in that state have not been without their own difficulties and missteps either.
Detroit proper’s problems go well beyond politics. White flight, dependence on a single industry that diversified its footprint and lost key segments of the industry to better competitors, consolidation, etc. Put FDR in charge of Detroit for the last fifty years, and it’ll still look roughly like what it looks like today.
I did read “What’s the Matter with Kansas?” years ago. It’s a great book if you love pop-sociology and/or have some affinity for Kansas (I find the former dumb and really couldn’t care less about Brownbackistan), but it’s about as useful for understanding modern politics as “Freakonomics” is for understanding economics. As a political commentator, Thomas Frank is just Mudcat Saunders for people who can read at a college level.
Put FDR in charge of Detroit for the last fifty years… Maybe not FDR, but Francis Perkins now…
Thomas Frank’s so-called analysis is just another example of the false-consciousness argument.
“What was most attractive about microlending was what it was not, what it made unnecessary: any sort of collective action by poor people coming together in governments or unions.” The money quote.
Loved the post, Booman, but made the mistake of diving into the comments. It’s funny how the subject of a post starts out being discussed but rapidly morphs into the left’s version of “both sides do it” broderism. By the end of the comments I’ve become convinced (NOT) that the Democratic party is in for the same implosion that apparently awaits Republicans post November.
But your post I’m saving to revisit later and am tempted to share with a relatively young but committed conservative relative of mine. He’s bright and well-read, but is not yet disenchanted with the Republican party because here in the red south most people like him, class wise, cultural wise, are still a long ways from disowning the party and the movement with which they so closely identify.
From Booman’s linked article:
“Our frequent elections offer another structural advantage for Republicans: Voter turnout has always steeply dropped from presidential elections to off-year elections. What is new is the big advantage Republicans now enjoy in the low-turnout environment of nonpresidential years, fed largely by the shift of older voters (who have the highest turnout rates) from the Democratic Party to the Republicans. The imbalance helps explain Republican success in elections for governor, more than four-fifths of which do not coincide with presidential elections.”
But of course the only admissible explanation of this phenomenon has something to do with The Evil Clintons & Debbie Wasserman Schulz. It can’t possibly be that the failure of millennials to vote in off-year elections has anything to do with GOP successes at the state level.
Example: I live with a 24 year old who is a huge Sanders fan and convinced that his victory will bring forth some sort of revolutionary change. Meanwhile said 24 year old has never previously managed to vote.
I’ll vote for Sanders is my state’s primary because he is ideologically closest to my own views, but I’m under no illusions about his potential victory ushering in revolutionary change. And I’ll sure as hell be voting in off-year elections for Democrats, even if they don’t manage to measure up to a 10 on the “progressive” litmus test.