The Washington Post editorial board takes former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to the woodshed for being “disturbingly unmindful of the rules” surrounding the use of government email, basic cybersecurity, and the preservation of records. While Fred Hiatt’s crew is careful to note that Clinton didn’t do anything illegal, they are highly critical of the way Clinton “breezed through all the warnings and notifications” she received about not using private email for “information that was sensitive but unclassified, or SBU,” and they encourage the FBI to quickly conclude their criminal investigation “so all information about this troubling episode will be before the voters.”
That’s all fair enough. Certainly, Clinton can offer some defenses of her actions, some of which are actually pretty convincing as far as they go, but she earned the criticism she’s taking from the Post. As long as we remember some basic things to keep this all in context, like the fact that Colin Powell was significantly worse about following the rules and preserving records, it should result in future cabinet heads doing a much better job of protecting and preserving our information.
So, I write the following not to excuse Clinton’s handling of her email, but to help people who are concerned about the issues implicated in this controversy decide what it might mean for choosing the next president.
The Freedom of Information Act was enacted in 1966 and, while it has been amended many times, it is still the law we use to make sure that government officials preserve their records and produce them upon request. It was passed over the objections of the Johnson administration by the most Democratic Congress of the 20th Century.
When Gerald Ford became president in the wake of disclosures like the Vietnam Pentagon Papers, the CIA’s family jewels, and the exposure of the Watergate scandal, he was inclined to strengthen the Freedom of Information Act, but he was dissuaded by some familiar folks.
Following the Watergate scandal, President Gerald R. Ford wanted to sign FOIA-strengthening amendments in the Privacy Act of 1974, but concern (by his chief of staff Donald Rumsfeld and deputy Dick Cheney) about leaks and legal arguments that the bill was unconstitutional (by government lawyer Antonin Scalia, among others) persuaded Ford to veto the bill, according to documents declassified in 2004. However, Congress voted to override Ford’s veto, giving the United States the core Freedom of Information Act still in effect today, with judicial review of executive secrecy claims.
Of course, in January 2001, Rumsfeld and Cheney came back to power as Bush’s Secretary of Defense and vice-president, and so the following should come as no surprise:
Executive Order 13233, drafted by Alberto R. Gonzales and issued by President George W. Bush on November 1, 2001, restricted access to the records of former presidents.
This order was revoked on January 21, 2009, as part of President Barack Obama’s Executive Order 13489. Public access to presidential records was restored to the original extent of five years (12 for some records) outlined in the Presidential Records Act.
There was a general principle involved in Bush’s decision to restrict access to the records of prior presidents. It was the same one that Rumsfeld and Cheney had appealed to back in 1974. And that’s just that the chief executive shouldn’t have to disclose what he does.
There was also a specific thing that Bush the Younger was concerned about, and that was that the Presidential Records Act only allowed a maximum delay of twelve years in disclosing presidential records. Poppy left office in 1993, which meant that his records might become public during his son’s presidency. Given the way Bush the Elder dealt with the Iran-Contra investigation, Dubya wasn’t interested in disclosing his father’s records. Here’s how the New York Times reported the cover-up at the time.
Six years after the arms-for-hostages scandal began to cast a shadow that would darken two Administrations, President Bush today granted full pardons to six former officials in Ronald Reagan’s Administration, including former Defense Secretary Caspar W. Weinberger.
Mr. Weinberger was scheduled to stand trial on Jan. 5 on charges that he lied to Congress about his knowledge of the arms sales to Iran and efforts by other countries to help underwrite the Nicaraguan rebels, a case that was expected to focus on Mr. Weinberger’s private notes that contain references to Mr. Bush’s endorsement of the secret shipments to Iran.
In one remaining facet of the inquiry, the independent prosecutor, Lawrence E. Walsh, plans to review a 1986 campaign diary kept by Mr. Bush. Mr. Walsh has characterized the President’s failure to turn over the diary until now as misconduct.
But in a single stroke, Mr. Bush swept away one conviction, three guilty pleas and two pending cases, virtually decapitating what was left of Mr. Walsh’s effort, which began in 1986. Mr. Bush’s decision was announced by the White House in a printed statement after the President left for Camp David, where he will spend the Christmas holiday.
Mr. Walsh bitterly condemned the President’s action, charging that “the Iran-contra cover-up, which has continued for more than six years, has now been completed.”
The Christmas Eve massacre of Lawrence Walsh’s investigation took place after Bush had been defeated by Clinton but before Clinton was sworn in as his successor.
Presidents, going back to Johnson’s opposition to the FOIA, have been reluctant to submit to congressional oversight and public disclosure of executive branch deliberations. But congressional Democrats passed the FOIA anyway, and they overcame President Ford’s veto, and they passed the Presidential Records Act in 1978. It was President Bill Clinton who in response to the controversy caused by Oliver Stone’s JFK movie “issued executive directives (and amendments to the directives) that allowed the release of previously classified national security documents more than 25 years old and of historical interest, as part of the FOIA.”
And it was President Obama who countermanded Dubya’s executive order that was supposed to shield his father from retrospective scrutiny.
So, there’s a long record here that spans a half a century at this point, and it tells a clear story. The story is that Democratic presidents and Democratic congresses have created the regime and the standards that are being used to judge Hillary Clinton harshly, and that those rules and regulations wouldn’t even exist if the Republicans had had their way.
The only conclusion I can draw is that anyone who is really concerned about executive branch accountability, the preservation of records, or even basic cybersecurity, would be nuts to conclude that those issues would be better served by a Republican Congress or a Republican president.
It’s okay to criticize Hillary Clinton and hold her accountable, but you should make sure to compare what’s she’s done here to something like Dick Cheney’s Energy Task Force. Remember that the Supreme Court essentially ruled in favor of Dick Cheney keeping the Task Force’s deliberations secret.
The question the Court was debating was whether or not the D.C. District Court should have rejected the request from the Vice President to block disclosure of records from his energy policy task force.
The Court ruled 7–2 that the lower appeals court had acted “prematurely” and sent the case back to the court.
The Court did not rule on whether or not [the Federal Advisory Committee Act] FACA should or should not apply to the task force, and left to the Court of Appeals.
Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion, agreed to by four other justices. Two justices, Clarence Thomas and [Antonin] Scalia would have had the case end there with Cheney not having to disclose any information. Ruth Bader Ginsburg was joined by David H. Souter in dissenting, arguing the Supreme Court should let the case proceed in the District Court.
The case received press attention when Antonin Scalia refused to recuse himself from the case, despite having hunted ducks with Cheney and others while the case was pending in the lower courts. Scalia filed a lengthy statement explaining why he was not recusing himself. In the end, Scalia supported Cheney.
Scalia, Rumsfeld, and Cheney were fighting executive disclosure in 1974 and they were still at it thirtysomething years later.
Anyone who knows this history won’t believe for a second that a Republican administration would do a better job of complying with disclosure requirements than a [chastened] Clinton administration.
And you would have to be absolutely crazy to think Trump would be transparent in any way.
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I agree with this perspective. However, when you’re explaining, you’re losing. We should all remember that the government hasn’t been very good at protecting its servers too. See Bradley Manning, Snowden, and a variety of other info gleaned from personnel records bureau, etc. The whole system is deficient.
I notice that holding Democratic politicians “accountable” never seems to entail withholding one’s vote from them.
Please note:
So when you vote for her, I encourage you to have open eyes about the kind of dishonest, autocratic, and paranoid administration you can expect.
Will do.
OK, I’ll keep my eyes on it.
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You write:
You might as well have written:
The statesman/(unconscious) poet Donald Rumsfeld once said:
BINGO!!!
There certainly are “things we don’t know we don’t know” about Ms. Clinton. Or to be more specific, there are things that we should know “that we don’t know we don’t know.”
“Executive disclosure!!!???” If a given ‘executive”…or a given functionary within that branch…has entirely hidden something, how do we know that we don’t know?
HRC…as well as Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, the multi-headed creature known as “George Bush II” and God only knows how many other parts of the hydra-headed executive branch of the Permanent Government including the entire intelligence system…have thoroughly hidden an iceberg’s 6/7ths worth of what they have done over the past 24+ years or so.
All we can do is wake up to the third part of Rumsfeld’s poem.
You use the words “executive disclosure” with a straight face!!!???
WTFU!!!
Bin Laden was a straight-up hit. How long did that take to come out, and how true is that new info !!!??? Did anybody except people sworn to secrecy at pain of serious repercussions actually see his body?
Yeah. Riiiiiight…
How many more “we don’t know hat we don’t knows” are there, Booman?
For every one(supposedly) brought to light, how many more lie the darkness of whatever sea whomever’s body was dumped when they “buried” bin Laden? It’s an equally good likelihood that bin Laden’s sitting in some sequestered island off the coast of Guadalupe sipping mai tais as we speak. It’;s all off the table, Booman. Ain’t no “disclosure” from liars.
Fucking get used to it.
Like dat.
Later…
AG
I have said repeatedly that nobody in the GOP Clown Car actually wanted to do THE WORK of the President.
They just wanted TO BE President.
But…..
What the everloving PHUCK?!?!?
Chairman of the Board?
Da phuq?
Da hail?
I just can’t.
And, I say, without equivocation,
that, if this had come from then Senator Obama’s `team’…..
Or if anyone from Hillary’s team had said this about her…
it’d be front and center on every newscast.
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There are presidential duties Trump `doesn’t want to do’
05/26/16 10:45 AM
By Steve Benen
Paul Manafort, a controversial Republican lobbyist, joined Donald Trump’s team in late March, and at least initially, his task was to help oversee delegate recruiting. It wasn’t long, however, before Manafort worked his way up to effectively running the entire operation: less than two months after joining the campaign, he’s now Trump’s campaign chairman and chief strategist.
Yesterday, Manafort sat down with the Huffington Post’s Howard Fineman for a fairly long interview, and while the two covered quite a bit of ground, there was one exchange in particular that stood out for me.
corrupt everyone.
Hillary Clinton is lying about this. It is not subject to interpretation or debate.
SHE LIED TO OBAMA about this.
And we get excuses and deflection.
You write:
“The only conclusion I can draw is that anyone who is really concerned about executive branch accountability, the preservation of records, or even basic cybersecurity, would be nuts to conclude that those issues would be better served by a Republican Congress or a Republican president.”
This surely wrong. Anyone concerned with this would want the executive and the white house to be in different parties.
I see absolutely no objective reason to prefer one party over another on this. And certainly no reason to prefer Hillary Clinton.
The perils of posting on an iphone…
So the excuses start.
Well, Cheney was worse.
She will corrupt every Democrat every person forced to defend her. Better people than her will be forced to lie.
Wait until the Clinton Foundation conflicts of interest get play.
“She will corrupt every Democrat every person forced to defend her. Better people than her will be forced to lie. Wait until the Clinton Foundation conflicts of interest get play.”
Exactly.
But the billions slipped H. Clinton’s way are such a small part of the graft and corruption. Our endless war in Central Asia is being fought for western energy corporations to get control of the oil and natural gas of the region. We get excuses and arguments which all turn out to be lies. The Iraq invasion was based on lies. The rise of Sunni extremists have been financed and supported by Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States and Turkey which our media and government never mention. In essence, the civil war in Syria is a created war in order to depose Assad and create a system of alternative pipelines to Europe for the US’ Sunni allies to displace the current system of Russian pipelines across Ukraine. Afghanistan has been a long series of explanations and excuses to create what has been called, since the 90s, TAPI, the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-Indian pipeline.
If anyone studies the Congressional attacks against prominent Democrats by congressional Republicans, one notices a tendency to tiptoe around the actual scandal to narrowly define something else. Bill Clinton’s minor involvement in Iran-contra is obscured and erased from official history and instead a sexual sting apparently arranged by Lucy Goldberg became the bigger issue. H. Clinton’s emails and her “failure” to put the ambassador to Libya into a safe position obscures the underlying regime change operation by the US.
And while Trump probably won’t win, even his ego can be reined in by the corridors of power. Hillary is already working diligently with those in the corridors of power, and thus will more closely follow the PNAC plan.
From your Freedom of Information Act link: “The law came about because of the determination of Congressman John E. Moss of California. Moss was the chairman of the Government Information Subcommittee. It took Moss 12 years to get the Freedom of Information Act through Congress successfully.
Here is John E. Moss’s obituary, dated Dec. 6, 1997.
http://www.johnemossfoundation.org/wiegand.htm
A few sentences from the obit:
“And as chairman of the House Subcommittee on Investigations and Oversight, Moss conducted aggressive probes that infuriated the oil industry, the medical profession, pharmaceutical companies, insurance firms and other industries.”
“Most of the time, Moss did it his way: sometimes a bit quixotically, sometimes a tad crankily, but always with honesty and tireless determination.”
” ‘Too many people want to be popular around here’, Moss said in the days before he retired. ‘I don’t really give a damn. If it’s the right vote, it will become popular.”
Ironically, Moss enlisted the help of Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) in passing FOIA in 1966.
“A crew-cut freshman Republican congressman from Illinois, Donald H. Rumsfeld, became a member of the subcommittee. He rallied some Republican support for FOIA.”
http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=background.view&backgroundid=00191
The report says Clinton handled her email better than any previous SecState. Somehow this gets spun as bad behavior by Clinton.
Once again, it’s Clinton rules – she gets savaged for thing anybody else can do without any trouble.
Her email server turned out to be safer than State’s server – emails in the State server were spread all over the world by Manning, while hers remained secure. A lot of this furor is Republicans, and their flunkies in the media, upset that they didn’t get to root through her emails years ago, like the would have if she had used the State server.
Incidentally, most ambassadors apparently were using private emails as well as relatively little ambassadorial info got exposed by Manning.
curtadams, Would you be so friendly as to link to the statement in the report that Clinton ‘handled her email better than any previos SoS? I’m not planning to spend my time going through the report to prove or disprove you. The burden of proof lies on you, I’d say.
Hillary Clinton is 68 years old. It is no longer age-appropriate for her to whine, when confronted with her rule-breaking, “But everyone else was doing it too!”
The other Secretaries of State are not running for President. Should they choose to do so, you will be justified in hammering them on this issue as hard as you like.
In the meantime, Hillary has no one to blame but herself for her latest embarrassment.
Twelve years for the FOIA. And this guy worked really hard at it, doggedly, to make that change. Legislating is slow, hard work.
You are correct, but it also takes trailblazers like John E. Moss to ignite the fire so that the people are protected. Moss saw that some people in government cannot be trusted, so he used the powers of legislation to keep “them” in check. Supposedly, we the people keep our legislators in check. How’s that been working out lately? To me, it looks like it’s time for some new trailblazers.
Your post reminded me of the old Firedoglake days and the tracking of the white van pulling up to the VP residence that was tasked with clearing out and disposing of his records. A bloody white moving van for criminy sake. Then I saw this article on his records’ demise and it all becomes so simple.
Clinton has screwed up. Again. I hate defending her. So I won’t. But I will vote for her because the alternative will bury us.
Lately (since ratcheting up fear of the Russian bear) the Dutch news services are pretty pro-America and follow the right-wing media stories like from the WSJ. I’ve written about U.S. propaganda outlets, NATO agression in Europe and the Atlantic Council. The Hillary Clinton story about her emails is widely covered in European media as it is in The Netherlands … doing Donald Trump and the GOP a great service.
○ Hacker who exposed Hillary Clinton’s email server expected to plead guilty | Reuters |
Posted earlier in my diary – ‘Game On’ – Sanders Up for Debate with Trump as Clinton Backs-out.
Could the people who truly don’t dislike Hillary Clinton help me out here? This is what I think happened:
Hillary was put in charge of a department in an organization that was not keeping up with the technology of the day. Their regulations were outdated, and to follow them would have made it impossible for her to effectively do her job, and would have actually made her records both less secure and less useful. None of her predecessors had stuck strictly to these rules. The majority of the high level employees in the government were not following these rules. If she had asked for permission to break the rules, she would have been told no, but it was hardly a secret that she was doing the same thing others were. She kept her records safer than other government servers, no harm was done, and the investigation found no illegal activity.
Am I close?
I think you’re pretty close.
The people who think this matters can’t agree on whether the problem is that the private server wasn’t secure enough or that it wasn’t open enough.
Yeah but then that negates the fun of following intricately complicated conspiracies that prove both parties are exactly the same so fuck it, President Trump can’t really be much worse, can he?
Here’s my guess:
“Aunt Hillary” paid about ten seconds worth of time considering this issue after she had been appointed Secretary of State. She did have a few other things on her plate and her email would be very far down on the list of her priorities. She said, “What if I want to keep the gadget I know how to use for my emails? How did Powell or Rice do it?” Then, “Oh, goody, me too.”
If there is any blame involved in this non-scandal it should go to the security apparatus at the State Department, and not to a person who had difficulty figuring out how to attach a file to an email.
Martin, you say (without any sourcing) that:
But PBS News Hour disagrees with your assessment of her predecessor’s email usage (which I assume includes Powell’s improper email use) versus Clinton’s email transgressions. As does the Chicago Tribune.
It should also be note that of all the other former Secretaries of State, and the current office holder, John Kerry cooperated with the Inspector General and were interviewed. Hillary chose not to do so. And then there was this, as noted in the Washington Post, hardly a bastion of anti-Clinton coverage this election cycle:
I think you should correct your post or provide some source that supports your claim that Powell’s usage of private email while in officials, through an account which the Department IT employees set up for him so it ran through a State Dept. server, was much worse than Clinton’s actions where all her emails were on her own private server, which was also used for emails received and sent by the Clinton Foundation.
OIG Report: pages 24-25.
I suppose if your concern is mainly cybersecurity, you can say that Clinton was worse. But if want the preservation of records, then Powell’s system was a complete joke and totally against the law.
Considering the post-war (WWII) work done by the CIA/intelligence agencies I’d say there isn’t too much difference between the two parties. Plus, when a former regime is discovered to have secretly violated the law the current regime manages not to prosecute the former. Clinton had a plateful of things to prosecute the Reagan and Bush administrations but didn’t, possibly because he was also a low-level cog in the cocaine part of Iran-contra. Lying us into a war of torture was allowed to stand by Obama. Programs like ECHELON were begun during the Clinton Administration and then continued through Dubya and Obama without any concern in the White House about the legalites. During the Carter Administration Congress discovered a wide array of crimes against the US citizenry, to include forced drug testing and mind control programs, assassination programs, and numerous coups around the world.
And, of course, fifty years after President Kennedy was murdered we still haven’t gotten all the documents released.
A logical mind might suggest that since the ultra-secretive atmosphere of criminality has occurred as a bipartisan exercise of executive power that perhaps secrecy is more a result of the murder fifty years ago than how the occupancy of the White House is politically defined.
I would also add that as time goes by, the same economic forces identified with the intelligence community’s dirtiest business have aligned nicely behind the Clintons.
In the above “force drug testing” would be better understood as secretly testing drugs on unwitting victims.
There is a very easy way to deal with this in the future. Eliminate the exceptions from the Freedom of Information Act.
And enforce compliance with it strictly and promptly.
The government’s business in in the sunshine.
I find the nitpicking by the media and the Congress very interesting, not to mention the insensitivity to someone who has been burned by false accusations and politically motivated slander for almost a quarter century.
It must be very difficult for Hillary Clinton having gone to DC to fix healthcare (the way it was perceived and likely the way she perceived it at age 45) and having what unfolded through the efforts of Emmet Tyrrell, Jr. and David Brock. I would be surprised if there wasn’t some PTSD from that.
“Successful” people who are outsiders are initiated into the elite through a series of experiences that amount to hazing and what Catholics in another context call “formation”. Insiders are socialized directly into the target culture; there is no cognitive dissonance. Hillary Clinton does not bear the cognitive dissonance required to survive those experiences gracefully. She works hard at being graceful.
In the past 70 years, neither party has been better at executive disclosure in real time–executive privilege they call it. Likely neither has been better at providing an honest record for historians. What besides his love letters to Bess did Harry Truman also burn?
Of course, I’m biased in this. It is another Trey Gowdyesque investigation even if the prosecutor himself is not running it. It is meant not to end until October and to pick at votes like a slow drip. In other words, pure politics no matter what the philosophical underpinnings. For that reason, Democrats hunkering down is likely their best policy.
If you are going to take care of these issues, it must be done when the political kabuki is not so crazy.
There are in fact much more critical issues with Clinton as prospective President, issues that Hillary herself must reassure people about if she is to defeat Trump and defeat him decisively. (She will not dodge charges of being a socialist/communist by punching hippies.)
In released emails, Hillary didn’t know how to work her iPad and needed help from a staffer but at the same time was plotting nefariously over email servers. That is just not how IT experience at your job works in practicality.