The new Salt Lake Tribune and Hinckley Institute of Politics at the University of Utah poll is just the latest piece of evidence that Donald Trump has a major problem with the Mormon community. The survey of Utahns shows Clinton and Trump tied at 35% and Libertarian Gary Johnson getting 13%. My guess is that Clinton’s chances in Utah, which are still pretty remote, will hinge on the strength of former New Mexico Governor Johnson. I say that because I doubt Clinton can do a whole lot better in Utah than the 35% she’s already pulling.
A little history: in 2012, with Mitt Romney on the ticket, President Obama got 25% of the vote in Utah. In 2008, Obama did better, getting 34.4% against John McCain. Both Kerry and Gore got 26%, and Bill Clinton managed 34% in his successful 1996 reelection campaign. So, in a sense, Hillary Clinton’s 35% isn’t all that impressive. Yes, it’s better than a Democrat has done in the Beehive State in recent years, but it also seems to be about the high-water mark for a Democrat there, at least in a conventional election, which this is not.
There’s evidence, though, that the Republican grip on Utah has weakened.
Just last week, a SurveyUSA poll of the state’s 4th Congressional District showed incumbent Republican Mia Love losing her rematch against Democrat Doug Owens.
Owens, an attorney who lost to Love in 2014, notched 51 percent in the SurveyUSA poll while Love, the former mayor of Saratoga Springs, received 45 percent. Only 4 percent of respondents said they were either undecided or would support a third-party candidate.
The results surprised both campaigns, with Love’s camp immediately questioning their validity.
“I don’t believe the numbers, to be honest with you,” said Dave Hansen, Love’s campaign strategist. “The numbers just do not make sense.”
As far back as March, there was evidence that Trump would fare poorly in Utah against Clinton, as Deseret News reported at the time:
“I believe Donald Trump could lose Utah. If you lose Utah as a Republican, there is no hope,” said former Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt, a top campaign adviser to the GOP’s 2012 nominee, Mitt Romney.
The poll found that may well be true. Utah voters said they would reject Trump, the GOP frontrunner, whether former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is the Democratic candidate on the general election ballot.
While Clinton was only slightly ahead of Trump — 38 percent to 36 percent — Sanders, a self-declared Democratic socialist, holds a substantial lead — 48 percent to 37 percent over the billionaire businessman and reality TV star among likely Utah voters.
“Wow. Wow. That’s surprising,” said Chris Karpowitz, co-director of Brigham Young University’s Center for the Study of Elections and Democracy. “Any matchup in which Democrats are competitive in the state of Utah is shocking.”
So, this shocking news is based on persistent evidence.
I suppose Mitt Romney’s vituperative opposition to Trump has some influence on Utah Republicans, and it probably doesn’t help Trump there that his campaign chairman Paul Manafort went on television yesterday and called Romney a coward.
But maybe Utah still isn’t the likeliest place for Trump’s weakness with Mormons to cost him electoral votes. The Mormons are a key electoral constituency for the Republicans in Colorado, Nevada, and Arizona, all of which are more traditionally competitive than Utah. All of those states also have large Latino populations, which may turn out in larger than normal numbers and vote against Trump by a very lopsided margin.
My guess is that Trump won’t even attempt an Electoral College strategy that relies on flipping Colorado or Nevada into the red column, but he should be very concerned about losing Arizona. As I wrote a week ago, Arizona Senator John McCain is already acting as though he fully expects Trump to not only lose his state but to serve as a major drag on his own reelection prospects.
The political class hasn’t been prescient at all about this election so far, but there’s a growing consensus that Trump is going to do so poorly and do so much damage to downticket Republicans that all the Democrats need to do is get out of the GOP’s way and they’ll win a landslide election in the Senate and possibly the House.
And that may well be true, but I’m not convinced that a play-it-safe strategy will maximize their gains. On some level, the Democrats need to be responsive to the very grumpy and substantively dissatisfied mood of the country, which has been reflected on their side of the aisle by the surprising strength of the Bernie Sanders campaign.
As for Hillary and Utah, normally with polls this close, it would merit active campaigning in the state. I just don’t know if that would actually help in this case.
The way I look at it, though, is that in Utah she is playing with the house’s money. She doesn’t need the state’s electoral votes, so she can gamble free of consequence. Why not go there and make her pitch?
Clinton said in her quasi-acceptance speech last Tuesday that she was going to campaign in every state in the country. Obviously that’s technically true no matter what she does (mailers go out to everybody) but it’s a good match for her unity campaign. I think she’d be well advised to physically visit every state in the country. This is at least potentially a re-alignment election so swing states in previous elections may not be swing states in this one. Also, the limit on what we get done is going to be the House and because of the gerrymanders the swing House districts don’t align particularly well to the swing states. Ohio and Pennsylvania, for example, don’t have many swing districts.
I’m not convinced that they have any other strategy.
We won’t really know until the convention.
My guess is that Trump won’t even attempt an Electoral College strategy that relies on flipping Colorado or Nevada into the red column,
That doesn’t leave a lot of options. Basically win all the south, including FL and VA, then take OH and one other state – say IA. Yeah, it’s possible – but if VA and PA are out of reach (and they probably will be) then Trump would need any two of CO, NV, NH, and WI. I think they have to include all of those states at least at the outset.
Of course, that assumes a rational campaign strategy.
He keeps saying he is going all in for California and New York.
That does not sound like a rational campaign strategy to me.
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No, it’s a very Trumpian campaign strategy.
Remember when McCain’s running mate was blowing shit up in ’08 by telling the press she disagreed with decisions by the senior campaign team and would continue to disobey them? Trump’s already publicly disparaged multiple decisions made by his own senior team.
Good times?
Soooo, You are saying trump is following the Wasilla hillbilly’s campaign strategy?
GOOD
It got really her far, well far as to the future grift, not so far as in elected office, and trump is a much better grifter than sister word-salad ever was.
Trump may have taken advantage of weaknesses in American governance and culture to be a more successful grifter, but he is an inferior candidate to Mooselini, who at least was able to win City and State elections. He’ll also suffer a bigger defeat in the Presidential election than McCain/Palin did.
Come on, get real, those offices are certainly below teh donald’s dignity.
Mooselini had McCain fronting fer her.
St. Sarah couldn’t win the primary on her own, which is why she never tried.
AZ-Sen: PPP & MoveOn.org Poll Has Ann Kirkpatrick (D) Leading John McCain (R) 43-41
Jeff Flake is also not on board the Trump train.
I’m not sure if anyone will see this comment since BooMan’s article has already been on the FP for a couple of days, but I thought of this piece while reading an article about former GOP Senator Larry Pressler’s endorsement of Hillary Clinton.
I wasn’t aware of that history but it seems like something that is probably fairly common knowledge in the Mormon community.
I’m sure it’s deeply embedded in their consciousnesses, a crucial part of why they had to establish their own realm in Utah. Could also help explain why Romney has been so passionate about stopping Trump.