Priscianus jr wrote a comment on Booman’s recent article How Sanders Folks Were Manipulated:
…the stupid behavior of the Bernie or Bust people, and good behavior of most everybody else, including the reception of Sanders, will have the ultimate effect of showing the world that the vast majority of Sanders supporters are…an organic, bona fide component of the Democratic Party.
Which is what you wanted all along, right?
I wrote a comment on that. It grew. Here it is as a stand-alone post.
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Priscianus jr, I question that conclusion regarding what Booman wants, and by extension the real aims of the entire DNC, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and the financial powers that run them. They most definitely want the Sanders supporters’ votes, but they oppose the stated aims of that group of people. Any acceptance of those aims in the platform is merely a vote-gathering tactic, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the day HRC accepts the presidency will be the day that those “socialist-ness” boards of said platform will be ripped up and essentially non-personed.
Disappeared.
HRC is a true believer in the neoliberal policies that were first put into play during Clinton I’s administration…multinational financial powers centered in the NATO countries maintaining control of the world’s economy by any means at their disposal (including endless wars if necessary), trade agreements that level the playing field of the world’s workers’ pay-per-hour to a survivalist mean no matter how that affects the citizens of the so-called “developed” countries, control of the (assumed to be less intelligent by the controllers) masses by financial means, etc, etc. etc.
But if Tip O’Neill’s “All politics is local” aphorism is true, “local” can mean individual countries just as easily as it does states, counties, towns and so on. And…the workers of the U.S. are beginning to smell a multinational rat behind all of the machinations of the Democrats. Thus the success of the Trump campaign.
AMERICA FIRST!!!
We’ve heard it before. Now we are hearing it again. Only this time it has helped to produced a candidate with a much better chance of winning in Trump and a weaker candidate than FDR in HRC.
This is a growing, worldwide phenomenon. Brexit was the first really effective strike against economic globalism. I fear that Trump will be the second. Had the Democratic Party rejected HRC for a real “third way” candidate like Bernie Sanders, who knows what might have happened. But of course…it didn’t. It used its media power to (barely) stop his campaign in favor of the now well-established policies of Barack Obama, who was quite accurately tarred with the “neoliberal” epithet before most people had any idea what it meant.
Barack Obama was described in 1996 by Dr. Adolph Reed Jr. as “a smooth Harvard lawyer with impeccable credentials and vacuous-to-repressive neoliberal politics.”
Well…we certainly know what it means, now, don’t we.
And that’s just for starters.
The Dems are in the process of blowing it, and the Trump alternative is probably just as bad or worse.
Too bad.
Fasten your seatbelts. Either way it’s gonna be a rough, rough ride.
Bet on it.
AG
Excellent AG … much appreciated.
In the country of the blind, cyclops is king.
A two party system leads to apparatniks as we always witness in dictatorships. In the US? Democracy my a$$ …
Integrity is the opposite of apparatniks who weasel out of responsibility by just obeying orders.
Frenzied defenses of the Obama/HRC record?
Feel free.
It’s a free country, right?
Riiiiiight…
AG
Wrong.
HRC’s campaign might want the votes of Bernie Sanders’s supporters, but it is not going to get the percentage they expect. Quite a few Bernie supporters are going to either (1) vote Jill Stein; (2) stay home; (3) vote Trump. Political operatives who count on Bernie supporters being like HRC supporters in 2008 will be incorrect in their analyses. Bernie supporters are different from the 2008 HRC supporters. Bernie supporters are composed of younger & older progressives, informed young men and women, independents, the disaffected, and moderate Republicans who have disliked HRC for decades. Progressives will support Stein. They know HRC’s history and they feel burned by the neoliberal policies of Obama. The youth won’t turn out. Their big turnout with Obama was a lot of media hype. Independents will not break down the doors for HRC; the disaffected will stay home; and moderate Republicans will vote Republican, since they don’t like HRC. Also, WJC proved in the 2016 Democratic primary that he has lost his touch so he is not going to be of much help. He was booed in Kentucky and practically run out of West Virginia for chrissake.
Yes, he has lost his “touch.” To mainstream heart drugs, methinks. Beta blockers, blood thinners etc. They take the edge off of your reaction times. iIspeak from (short) experience. I threw ’em all away after a couple of months and here I still am,4 years later. Healthy as a horse.
And still quick, too.
So it goes.
Live by Big Pharma, die by Big Pharma.
Bet on it.
AG
“Our prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer. Our drugs kill around 200,000 people in America every year, and half of these people die while they do what their doctors told them–so they die because of the side-effects,” said Dr. Gotzsche in his recent interview. “The other half die because of errors–and it’s often the doctors that make the errors because any drug may come with 20, 30 or 40 warnings, contraindications, precautions…and then the patients die.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/21/big-pharma-is-america-s-new-mafia.html
And how many more are simply reduced to a shell of their previous selves?
While we are at it…lump in the terrible swath of destruction that has been caused by prescribing drugs for children who are hard to handle and adults who are “unhappy?” A large percentage of the U.S, population has been drugged into near-catatonia…many more than have been hurt by illegal drugs, in my opinion. The “war on drugs” has basically been a war on drugs that do not contribute to the profits of the pharmacological industry.
Their drugs?
Even more dangerous in the long run.
Bet on it.
AG
You are so right. Years ago parents and teachers dealt with “problem kids” without a doctor’s prescription. Simple solutions took care of many issues. For example, my brother was “hyper”, so his teachers put him at the back of the class and allowed him to stand up and move around a little when he felt the urge. Later he would sit back down at his desk and work. After a while, he outgrew the situation.
It’s so bad that some vets are prescribing little pills because people see the advertisements for doggy separation anxiety, depression, excessive barking, etc. I think AKC should offer classes for pet owners and let the puppies play with each other while their “parents” attend class. Ha!
“Quite a few Bernie supporters are going to either …”
I think “quite a few” is just you and me. Over at caucus99percent, I see more and more people saying they will vote for Hillary instead of Stein if it’s close in their state. IOW, they are anti-Clinton except when it counts. No wonder Liberals/Progressives always lose the football. Lucy doesn’t take it. They give to her.
“Oh no, we have to stop Trump this time,” Yeah right. Last time is was stop Romney, before that stop Palin … There will always be some boogeyman that has to be stopped this time.
I hadn’t seen that over at caucus99percent. Maybe the trolls are out? LOL Some of my observations are based upon casually surveying people that I encounter. At times, people offer the information. I have noticed in this election people are not shy about discussing the presidential race. Maybe because both candidates are well-known. That can be a disadvantage sometimes in politics. Dems would be better off leaving the boogeyman to Hollywood and concentrating on helping the “little guy”. FDR didn’t have to create a boogeyman to get elected, although the Repubs tried to make him one. It didn’t work because he was elected 4 times and his VP once after that.
I always jump on them. Not nastily, but chiding them and suggesting alternatives. Maybe they are trolls, because they all say Trump is the End of Civilization. trump will get us into a nuclear war. Trump = Hitler, et cetera.
If I see Trump = Hitler, I’ll have to make a remark, too. It really bothers me that someone would so casually equate a person to Hitler. IMO doing so detracts from the evilness of Hitler and his henchmen. If these people would read about Hitler, they would think twice before writing such nonsense.
Yes, Hitler had a united party, he planned for years, he spent time in prison for attempted revolution. Hitler was a WW I foot soldier who was gassed with mustard gas, hence the hoarse voice forever after.
Trump is a bored multimillionaire that craves the limelight. Like Perot, he is followed because of what he says. He does not have a personal following who believe anything he sauys and will do anything for him. That fits HRC much better along with the years of scheming for power and silencing of all dissent.
If anything, we can thank Trump for driving a stake through the heart of the Bush dynasty. Ever heard of them? And for all we know he might succeed even in giving the Clinton dynasty the same terminal treatment. If so, at what price? We’ll soon see. Whatever, it will be very high, I fear. One way or the other.