It sure as hell wasn’t “educated white men.”
JFK lost big among the college educated: 39% to 61%
He did, however, win among men: 52% to 48% (inflated by all those “uneducated” men).
Professional and business class: 42% to 58%
White collar: 48% to 52% (lots of “pink collars” in that segment)
Manual labor workers: 60% to 40%
Labor unions: 65% to 35% (that’s when private sector unions still existed)
Women: 49% to 51%
The college educated (ie “smart” folks) stuck with Nixon in ’68 and ’72. Although not quite as many as in 1960 when they had the option to vote their racism. Not so “smart” in ’72.
’76 and ’80? The same. The “educated” stuck with the GOP. As they did in ’84 and ’88. WJC received a plurality of that vote, but it was a mere 1% more than Dukakis received.
Gore 46%
Kerry 48%
Obama 55%
Obama 53%
Dare we ask why college educated people suddenly got “smart” between 2004 and 2008? A ludicrous conclusion.
(Democrats have dominated the Black vote since 1936 but they were mostly disenfranchised throughout the south for another couple of decades. Enough time for the white racist vote in those regions to shift to the GOP.)
Were “uneducated” white people back in 1932 stupid? That’s what the Democratic Party liberals today are selling. Or that the Republican Party has made “uneducated” white people stupid. More truth in that, but dumbing down people has always been a feature of the powerful and wealthy. And they’ll use the easiest means possible which in this country has generally meant immigrant and African-American bashing and the siren song of low taxes/tax cuts. Or communism and now Putin brought to us by the Democratic Party.
Matthew B. Crawford (2006)
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So perhaps the time is ripe for reconsideration of an ideal that has fallen out of favor: manual competence, and the stance it entails toward the built, material world. Neither as workers nor as consumers are we much called upon to exercise such competence, most of us anyway, and merely to recommend its cultivation is to risk the scorn of those who take themselves to be the most hard-headed: the hard-headed economist will point out the opportunity costs of making what can be bought, and the hard-headed educator will say that it is irresponsible to educate the young for the trades, which are somehow identified as the jobs of the past. But we might pause to consider just how hard-headed these presumptions are, and whether they don’t, on the contrary, issue from a peculiar sort of idealism, one that insistently steers young people toward the most ghostly kinds of work.
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Making and fixing things requires thought. Mental dexterity as well as physical. Being able to put the pieces together into a whole that works. Without the excuse that “it was a computer error.” (At or near the top of my all time favorite books is Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance)
Without Educated White Women, Republicans Are Doomed (Bloomberg)
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It’s possible that the end result of this may be a decidedly Clinton-esque pro-establishment Democratic Party anchored by African-American and Hispanic voters, well-educated suburban whites, and 21st-century business interests. Working-class white males, intellectual conservatives and anti-establishment liberals would find themselves shut out of the political process.
(Billmon’s response to the above: “Imagine a sensible shoe, Winston, stamping on an unwoke human face, forever.” Some people can quote and “get” a novel.)
Having never considered myself “anti-establishment,” I do bristle at that assertion. What I don’t endorse is an establishment that divides the various demographic factions by using lies and propaganda that disproportionately favors one or more factions over others. With the end goal of always favoring the “haves” over the “have nots.” That favors “guns over butter.” One point of the privilege of education is the duty to maximize fairness and equality for all. Because it’s the “all” that made that education possible except for those born into the upper classes which only includes a tiny segment of the “educated” class today.
Why Cornel West Loves Jane Austen. Perhaps one needs to have read Jane Austen and loved her works to appreciate Cornel West. That was in extremely short supply in the lefty blogosphere during the Democratic primary election cycle. 42% of college graduates never read another book after college. Not quality fiction and non-fiction books, but any book at all. Hardly the mark of “educated” men and women.
I feel like you were aiming to some larger point, the diary feels truncated. Could you please elaborate?
Serious Question — Sunday
Challenging the arrogant position that a college education is what makes people smart and informed enough to make a decent and rational political choice. The GOP has been manipulating and exploiting “poorly educated white guys” for decades, but Democrats disdain them, but can’t reveal that they too are participating in the great leap forward in income/wealth/insecurity inequality without losing their base and power.
That really might have been the lowest point in miscalculated authoritarianism I’ve seen in a while. Brother, did that expose some people.
Though the Pope reference… The classless society, indeed.
I don’t revere JFK the way many here do. However, I also don’t doubt that I would have voted for him over Nixon. Neither was politically mature enough for the job in 1960 and if we’re honest, they were more alike than different in their worldviews. But if nothing else, JFK had a sense of humor. A characteristic that is generally lacking in modern Republicans and most Democrats as well. It’s one personality trait that Lincoln and FDR shared. It’s what for all his faults has made Biden likeable. While not as the Lincoln and JFK level, Obama and Sanders also have that quality.
I thought Booman was being ironic, although obviously many readers did not.
The “myth” of Cook County votes and the Kennedy electoral win in 1960. Kennedy won the state of Illinois (27) by 8,858 of 4.7 million votes … Other states Kennedy won by minimal margin: Michigan (20), Minnesota (11), Missouri (13), New Jersey (16) and Texas (24). Electoral college result: Kennedy 303, Nixon 219 and Byrd 15.
○ Chicago ties cast shadow on 1960 presidential win
1960 changed politics
Bill Daley was 12 on Election Day 1960. He remembers his father coming home early the next morning, showering and going back to his office. He also recalls attending Kennedy’s swearing-in and visiting the president in the White House the following day. Harry Truman “was the first visitor the day after the inauguration, my dad, mom and us kids were second.”
You can draw a link … to Watergate in the sense that the lesson Nixon took out of all this is, “I’m not going to be cheated again”.
Don’t want to “re-litigate” the 1960 election. It was very close — both ways — in many states. (HI 115 votes.) Nixon won his home stated by a mere 0.55%, pretty shabby. Who’s to say that Nixon didn’t “steal” as many states as JFK did? Or even as in FL 2000 that the GOP didn’t “steal” enough votes in states that he lost. Bottom line is that JFK didn’t need IL to win in 1960, and that’s why Nixon’s team told him that there was nothing to gain from contesting the IL results.
I revisited this story years ago, and left satisfied that a) no massive election fraud occurred to steal the election from Nixon and b) the story of the alleged theft is not only a myth but the charming story of Nixon graciously accepting defeat without contesting the outcome is also a myth.
The RNC, almost certainly with Nixon’s knowledge, quickly arranged to officially contest the election in a number of states. Results: only a few hundred votes added to the RN total in IL, not enough to change the outcome, and in HI he actually lost enough votes in a recount to give the state to JFK.
Thank you. Appreciate that you put in the time and effort to research this. Did a cursory scan of the statewide results and nothing popped out for me. It’s entirely possible that the 1960 IL results reflected increased participation by African-Americans and the continuing shift to the Democratic candidate and/or the same for the large Catholic population, today the fifth highest of any state. Both of those variables have explanatory power as two why two traditionally GOP states like IL and IA diverged in 1960.
August 21, 1959 – Hawaii becomes 50th state
The Supreme Court did not interfere in the recount [think Gore and FL in 2000] ordered by Circuit Court Judge Jamieson who rejected the arguments of the State AG’s staff and the Governor Quinn who had gone ahead and certified the election result in favor of Richard Nixon.
In 1960, HI had one GOP and one Dem Senator (elected in ’59). Not surprising that the presidential election would come down to a literal handful of votes. Since ’76 HI has always had two Dem Senators, often the most liberal in the Senate. HHH won HI by more than 20% in ’68.
Have no idea as to the point you’re attempting to make with your comments in this thread. Whether HI and IL went blue or red that year didn’t change the EC winner and doesn’t change who voted for Nixon and JFK which is the focus of the diary.
The Intercept – The Great White Hype: No One Is Energizing the White Working Class, Not Even Donald Trump
Those stubborn facts are getting in the way of the pundits’ narrative. These mythical Trump voters are simply refusing to vote for any of the candidates on offer.
Financial security (being able to pay bills and having adequate savings) is a major driver in voting behavior.
“Flight” (or “freeze” if one prefers) to use one of the simplest formulations in human psychology.
But as we see in this election there is no one worth voting for. “Revolver to the temple” vs “Drink poison” is not a choice.
This why at caucus99% I try to dissuade people from not voting, but rather vote for some third party. not voting sends the message that you don’t care who wins (true in one sense), voting third sends the message that you loathe both choices.
The problem with your position is that the non-votes by those that generally vote is interpreted by TPTB as acceptance of the expected winner. This is the first time in my life that I’ve considered and looked at the third party factor in presidential elections. A message can sometimes be sent through that option.
Consider 1932 and 1936. Both landslide elections for FDR. However, 2.5% and 2.4% of the vote were to FDR’s left.
Or 1960. JFK lost to “unpledged” in two traditionally Democratic states. You think that didn’t give him pause in moving forward with civil rights legislation?
1968 is easier to read. And Nixon fully exploited that faction of voters in 1972.
In each of those instances, the third party candidates (or no candidate as in 1960) embodied a political message and weren’t personality based. We can look back at Nixon’s domestic record and marvel at how far to the left it was. But weren’t the Wallace voters saying, “We like all that New Deal stuff, but without the civil rights stuff?”
1980 third party voters lacked a clearly defined message outside of “not Carter and not Reagan.” Unbeknownst to them, Anderson was a GOP stalking horse. It’s possible that had the options for them been limited to Carter or Reagan that they would have passed on voting. Is it really plausible under that scenario that Reagan would have carried MA?
The EC vote in ’96 was similar to that in ’92. But WJC with near 50% of the vote was far more dangerous than he’d been with 43%. CW claimed that Perot’s 19% took equally from Clinton and Bush and therefore, didn’t pose a risk to either party that were both hellbent on trade deals that off-shored US manufacturing. More recent analyses indicate that the Perot voters have stopped voting. TPTB discounted all those ’96 and ’00 non-voters that had shown up in ’92. Granted, Perot was a deeply flawed vessel for the message, but the message did exist.
Democrats will never get over ’00 and never stop blaming the outcome on Nader. What they refuse to acknowledge is that in an expected very close election, voter participation was down significantly from that of 1992. Nader’s critique of the other two parties was too sophisticated for the average voter (and he’s also not an attractive messenger). But consider a scenario where those non-voters had shown up and cast their ballots for Nader, giving him say 15%, with no change in the numbers that voted for GWB and Gore. Would team Bush have been as emboldened to run to the federal courthouse to stop the vote count in FL? Say, that 15% for Nader (no, I voted for Gore) didn’t alter the final outcome (SCOTUS picked GWB), would Bush/Cheney have acted as if they had a mandate? Would Democrats have cowered and let GWB exploit 9/11 to his own advantage?
Why were Bush and Rove stunned by Bush’s narrow win in 2004? Not as narrow as 2000 and also with Congressional gains and higher voter turnout, which they again took as a mandate. But didn’t get away with it a second time.
Monday morning quarterbacking is much easier than the real time decisions we have no choice but to make. And as I wait to see if an optimal less bad choice emerges, acknowledge that there may not be one and I still won’t know what I will do and therefore, can’t make a case to vote FOR any of the candidates or not vote at all.
I am going to repost something I posted on Booman’s article Serious Question…the one referred to above. It pertains.
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This post is awful, Booman. I started to reply to it and then…somewhat apprehensively…went and read the responses. To my amazement, a number of people called you out on it. Good. This means that this blog is healthier than I imagined.
First of all, I disagree with he media-popular meme “poorly educated white guys.” on three levels.
#1-People of all races and sexes who successfully work with their hands are not “poorly educated.” In fact, in my view…given the state of so-called higher education in the U.S., they are quite likely to be better educated on many levels than are people with any number of degrees in any number of subjects. Educated in the realities of life in these United States if on few other levels.
Is a master auto mechanic or fine carpenter “poorly educated?” I dunno. You tell me. Can an auto mechanic successfully fake his or her way through the ability to diagnose and fix a car’s problems? Not for long. Bet on it. Can the guy who does most of the maintenance and renovation work in the 1896-built building in which I live in the Bronx do shoddy work? The same guy who cares for the grounds and has built a beautiful, almost wild-looking garden in the courtyard that stops passenrs-by in their tracks? Not as far as I am concerned. And he is by no means alone. There are millions of people like him all over the country. Passionate, intelligent people who had the good sense to learn a craft rather than slog through what has become a bullshit miseducmational system to get a couple of degrees that at best will qualify them to be bureaucratically governed cogs in some giant shithole of a corporation or governmental apparatus. And they watching this election very closely. This guy swallows none of the media cant like your “poorly educated white guys” crap. None of it.
#2 “Poorly educated white guys…”
What is your definition of “white,” Booman? Really. What is the overall definition of “white” in this country? I work with any number of people of Puerto Rican 2nd and 3rd generation heritage, most of whom identify with that heritage as a matter of choice. Change a little bit in their dress choices, smooth out the accent a tad, maybe get a different haircut and change the name they use from “José Gonzalez” to “Joseph Zale” and hey could pass right into so-called white culture without so much as making a wave.
But they don’t.
Why?
Ain’t worth it to do so as far as they are concerned. They’d lose more than they gained.
#3-Again: “Poorly educated white guys…” Why “guys”, Booman? Do you somehow believe…as apparently do HRC and the whole rotted-out DNC apparatus…that a tidal wave of females is going to vote her into office? I got news for ya…there are women of all races and classes who have absolutely no use for her act. Seeing her attended to hand and foot by that Abedin creature (Why on earth would anyone stay married that dick-pic fool Weiner!!!???) and…up until just a week ago, anyway…allied with that other female bureaucratic monster Debbie Wasserman Schultz? Seeing her still standing next to that serial sexual predator Bill Clinton? Come on, Booman!!!
Take a longer vacation.
You gonna need it when the shit starts to hit the fan in a few weeks.
Bet on that as well.
Later…
AG
Read it (and believe I tipped it) in that thread.
This diary was a challenge to that post, and those that like Martin’s position have stayed away from this one for obvious reasons.
Part of the reason for the disconnect may be that people that born by the mid-fifties and later) view education as something done in schools and not part of life in general. The TV replaced reading a daily newspaper in the home. Those that graduated from college have rarely interacted with those that didn’t at work and in their home lives. More and more segregation in both over the decades. Both outcomes of the ever higher value in earnings capacity and thus, overvaluing the number of years in school and equating that with educated.
When I started in a professional field, the college graduates barely outnumbered those with high school degrees and a year of two of general ed college courses. The Sr. VP was in the latter category and none of his subordinates were sharper than him and exhibited anything remotely resembling better educated. He ran rings around most of them. That was a small data-set, but in general, the men that boasted the most about their college degree were the sloppiest thinkers and the most boring to be around.
Over the decades as the older generation retired, the new blood were always college grads and a high percentage either started out with an MBA or got one while employed. Can’t recall anyone in that category that wasn’t a plodder. Their education had been so narrow that they were poorly equipped to evaluate an account outside a narrow box.
This has happened throughout US businesses and government. More than ever, people today are evaluated on the basis of letters after their names instead of performance. Look at Dr. Ben Carson — he sounds like someone that struggled to get through grade school. Trump isn’t much better.
Yup. You’ve got it just right.
In my field…basically performing, writing, directing and teaching the musics of the Pan-American experience…until about 1070 almost no really fine players had a college degree, and certainly not in music. These musics were barely taught at all until well into the ’70s. Three schools had “jazz” departments…Berklee, Indiana U. and North Texas State….and it was rare for anyone to graduate from them if they could really play. people would get their act together well enough to work and then go out into the field. And…many, many more players…especially black and latino musicians…essentially learned on the bandstand. It was a group of living traditions. Blues, jazz, latin idioms, country…the works.
Then the schools figured out that they could make money on it. BANG!!! 40 or 50 years later Berklee…which started out small and personal…is now the biggest, richest music school in the world. Hell…it just essentially bought Boston Conservatory!!!
And the products of those schools?
There are some really fine ones…another 1% group, it seems…but the rest? They often find that they cannot work as musicians so they get a Master’s degree and go teach in ever-worse schools, producing more and more ever-declining clones of themselves. So it goes.
You want to hear what someone who can really play…and benefits from a famous last name…has to say about the situation today? Here ya go…
Branford Marsalis:
Right on point. And if anybody imagines that this is limited to music studies, they’ve got another think coming. It is everywhere in today’s thoroughly monetized academia. Most major universities are now more real estate operations than citadels of learning. They take people in at huge costs, then use those monies…plus the graft disguised as grants…to buy up real estate. NYU, the New School and Columbia in NYC are prime examples of this. Plus they are loathe to fail anyone…believe me, I’ve seen this in action up close and personal numerous times…because they are making money on them. Duh!!! Then, when the kids gets out of school and eventually wakes up to the fact that his or her coveted Master’s degree will maybe get them a near-poverty-level salary teaching in some corporate charter school that is just a miniaturization of the university system from which they have graduated, the schools themselves wash thjeir hands of the graduated students. Too busy hustling another group of media-dazed stargazers.
So it goes.
Down like a motherfucker.
Does anyone here really think that (the thoroughly monetized herself) Hillary Rodham Clinton is going to endeavor to change this system? If so, I got a bridge to sell you.
WTFU.
AG
Thanks for your observations of your field. Journalism is another one. Has any J-school turned out a Pete Hamill or Carl Bernstein? Talent plus OJT is how we got good journalism. Working class journalists who knew what the hell was going on in their coverage area.
And Hollywood isn’t turning out fine actors anymore either. No Daniel Day Lewis or Mark Rylance who knocked my socks off in “Bridge of Spies.”
All symptoms of a deeply devolved culture.
As is this:
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And…I am sorry to say, because I had high hopes for him at the very beginning (his native intelligence, his oratorical skills)…this:
So it goes…
AG
FYI — the golf photo of Obama that you love to post doesn’t register as a negative with anyone other than you. Tiger Woods was a sports icon for white and black folks long before Obama was elected. Obama hasn’t done well on policy matters, but on ordinary character issues, he and Michelle remain well regarded.
Now, the photos of HRC getting hugs from GWB and Kissinger should send chills up the spine of any liberal.
Photos of Obama and family running the .01% hustle are more chilling to me that anything having to do w/Kissinger + GWB. He did not have the line-level sense enough not to ape…and I use the word advisedly…the overwhelming entitlement attributes of his white predecessors in terms of living the .01% life, and that alone removes him from any serious consideration as far as I am concerned.
In short…he copped out. He is too intelligent not to know that he was copping out…he did so in a so-called reasoned attempt to appear as if he was just another, slightly darker .01 percenter.
It didn’t work.
So it goes.
Next?
AG
It’s not a photo of him running the “.01% hustle.” It’s a picture of him playing golf. (He’s also been known to play basketball with buddies and iirc surf when on vacation in HI.) Golf clubs as an extracurricular activity in high schools exists throughout the country. Municipal golf courses also exist throughout the country. Two of my very blue collar uncles played golf. Not as frequently as they would have liked and not at country clubs, but they owned their own set of clubs. Even I once ventured onto a exclusive golf course (a very pathetic sight), but after that passed on the golf at business functions.
Personally, golf couldn’t interest me less as either a participant or spectator. But millions seem to enjoy both. Others choose different outdoor activities. Some of which can be as costly or more costly than golf. Other than Carter, it’s something that Presidents from Ike forward have done. It’s just one of those things that signifies not much of anything.
It’s not a picture of him playing golf. it’s a picture of him shucking and jiving. It sets my teeth on edge and I’m not even black. I would be furious if I were black.
Really? Not at all unusual golf course etiquette for those that have a bit of play as they play. Otherwise golf is way too boring.
Describing from a single photo that Obama was “shucking and jiving” says more about you.
I was a caddy in High school. Never saw more than absolute decorum on the golf course. Illinois may well be different from California.
I’ll ignore the slur.
When you were a caddie, nothing but white outfits and shoes were permissible on tennis courts. That was everywhere and not just at the country club courts. Decorum everywhere was far more defined and rigid back then. That baby got tossed out with the bathwater.
A shame really because on our own, few humans aren’t subject to displaying our worst impulses. For example, I view twerking as gross.
Had Obama disciplined himself to not appear to be a member of the .01% on any level whatsoever, he would have had a much better presidency. It’s all about branding, Marie. I don’t give a flying fuck if he “plays golf.” But that pic along with the millions of dollars spent on his vacations in fashionable places…fashionable for he .01%, anyway? He could have toned it down a great deal. He didn’t. He reveled in it. His loss. All our losses, when you get right down to it.
He shoulda vacationed in Newark.
In West Virginia.
In Nebraska.
Not Martha’s Vineyard.
And playing the fool in a corny outfit while golfing? At the very least, don’t let the pics come out. That image puts him in GWB territory.
He’s better than that.
At least he shoulda been better than that.
Coulda been, too. But he didn’t.
So it goes.
AG
It did more effectively reveal his true affiliations. So, there’s that. Not that partisan Democrats are astute enough to catch such a drift.
In fairness, a POTUS is under the intense eye of the Beltway and deviating from whatever standards they have at the time is the difference between good and bad media and Americans aren’t sophisticated enough to dismiss whatever the media blares at them. (They crucified Carter and Roslyn for acting more like regular people and the Beltway power is ten times today what it was back then.)
You’re also not allowing for the limitations that are necessary for Secret Service protection. The Obamas can have reasonably free and comfortable vacations on Martha’s Vineyard and in Hawaii that logistically would be more difficult to secure in other locations for any POTUS that doesn’t have his own or family compound to retreat to. What may look to the public as more like themselves can be the more costly and difficult option for the Secret Service. Sending Amy Carter to public school may have benefited her more, but it cost taxpayers more. It’s a sorry fact of life that very safe usually means exclusive in this country.
I could cite some instances where IMO Michelle pushed the envelope on travel and dress, but that would verge on being petty when generally she’s been okay as an active FLOTUS.
Not entirely apropos of what you’ve written, but I thought I would mention that in the federal science agency for which I work, there have been, and still are, lots of people without Ph.D. degrees making key contributions. Some of them get promoted into management. I’ve had supervisors with fewer paper credentials than I, but a hell of a lot more practical experience.
Once asked a Cambridge PhD (maths with focus computer science before it was a discipline) why he didn’t construct PC. As his response was swift, he’d probably asked himself the same question long before I did. He said, “I never learned how to weld.”
Weld? Did he mean solder? Depending on the era one might have to solder. Today you just have to handle a screwdriver. I bought my first computer in 1994 (a little late), Micron state of the art for $3000. I’ve built every one since then. Cheapest cost me $30 back when I was unemployed. One day, I found an old Gateway P5-100 at the curb in front of my sister’s apartment. no hard drive and full of dust. The power supply was jam packed with dust. I took it home and cleaned it up with my middle grandson. (OK, I used a nut driver not a screwdriver to open the power supply.) I bought a used motherboard with a K6-III+ CPU and memory off e-bay for $30. (Owner was upgrading to a K-7). I had an old hard drive on the shelf and installed Linux on it and he had his own computer. It was fun doing it together and teaching him something. I still have that computer. I use it for a wakeonlan server.
Yes — you’re correct, he did say solder. I posed the question around ’82 and it was about constructing a PC before Apple. (He got his PhD in ’64.) I bought my first PC in ’89. Mail order and I first had to figure out the parts and configuration that would meet my needs. It also became obsolete as fast as the original HP calculators did.
In the ’80s I built a home brew Z80 S-100 computer and it did indeed require soldering a lot of components. The real fun was writing the BIOS, an assembler and a BASIC interpreter that served as the OS. Used a lot of my employer’s software development tools. With permission, on my own time, at the department head’s suggestion. They figured it honed my programming and debugging skills.
You’re an engineer/science guy and I’m a liberal arts person; so, you win on the computer front. However, in the late seventies, I did do some programming in BASIC (after a few projects where I was a systems user rep). Just enough to learn that I could do it and that I didn’t enjoy it in the least. The only time I ever touched the inside of a PC was when I replaced the hard drive on my first one.
Good for you! Most people won’t touch the inside of anything. Do you change your air filters too?
Started out around 12, taking the back off of our old 12 inch B&W Spartan TV, taking the tubes down to Walgreen’s to test (free), looking up what they were about in the Library. Became addicted. Still writing software at home. Getting slower, though. Too many TIE’s, I think.Still write my best code when I’m sleeping. Today’s kids are hacking phones. You might not agree, but I think that’s better then sending nude selfies and playing Pokemon Go.
Some people get an itch to know something. That something varies all over the map. Is it a survival trait? Or the seed of destruction? Certainly kids with an itch to control all the other kids go further in life. And have more success. But what’s success? I had a good friend like that. He lived across the alley. When we grew up he became a commodity broker. Estate in Barrington Hills, second marriage to blue-blooded east coast trophy wife, et cetera. That second wife cut him off from all his plebian friends from childhood. They had one son. Learned at our 50th High school reunion that the son was nuts, stabbed his mother to death and now is locked in an institution for the criminally insane. I haven’t contacted my old friend. What could I say? I used to be envious, but not any more. Wouldn’t trade my life with his for all the dollars on Wall Street.
“What profit it a man to gain the whole world, but lose his own soul?”
Oh, back then we all knew how take the tubes out of TVs and stereos and check them at the local tube testing place. Didn’t pique curiosity in more than a few. But most people seemed to develop curiosity about something or another and learn and do things as a consequence of that curiosity. That requires more active curiosity which tools and toys and life in general of today don’t facilitate as much.
But how many wondered why the tubes worked and how they made picture on the screen? I wasn’t unique of course, many of us wondered that and at least one became an electronics tycoon in Silicon valley. met him at the reunion. was sorry to hear that he lost his company in the dot com crash. Of course, I lost a profession. Seems like the ones who made out OK, financially were the doctor (her Dad was a doctor too), the two lawyers (ditto), the several teachers (including a department head at Harvard!) and me. I count myself because along with the teachers, I have a government pension. The others have their savings and SS. Of course, for the lawyers and doctor and the businessmen, the savings are doubtless substantial. Another friend, who dropped out at 16, was drafted into Vietnam, was a grunt jumping out of Hueys, but survived and became a plumber after the war. He retired passing his plumbing business to his son, so I figure he’s doing good too. He probably did the best, still married to his first wife, a ravishing blond beauty, three kids, a good (albeit messy) business, no dread diseases.
But how many wondered why the tubes worked and how they made picture on the screen?
Not so many as I said, but more than those that turned that particular curiosity into a a STEM education and career. They were referred to as home hobbyists back then and their numbers weren’t insignificant. Radio Shack was but one business that catered to them, and most have since cratered.
It may seem odd to you, but how and why appliances, tools, and toys work holds little to no interest for most people. Even as they appreciate having such items in their lives. Getting the damn things to work properly is a major accomplishment for most. We all tend to follow a path of least resistance and go with where are talents and interests seem to lead us and skip those areas where a huge amount of effort will have little to no payoff.
heh — recall once getting roped into a co-ed bowling league. After a few weeks the director took me aside and said, “I’ve been looking at the scores and am surprised that yours are so low.” I laughed and said, “I can’t figure out if I such a bad bowler because I hate it or I hate if because I’m a bad bowler. But I don’t really care what the answer is because I can’t afford the cost to find out.”
“It may seem odd to you, but how and why appliances, tools, and toys work holds little to no interest for most people.” It doesn’t surprise me at all. What does surprise me is the number of otherwise rational people who care about which set of millionaire athletes win which game. Except for those who have bets. I understand them.
My daughter is like me and when she was a preschooler would take things apart and put them back together correctly. At the age of about three when I was away on business, she was sick and my wife couldn’t open the childproof cap on her medicine. My daughter, age 3 and sick, opened it readily. Now at age 47 she is designing, building, and programming a solar powered automated garden irrigation system. Just for fun. Two of her boys have no interest in technology beyond using it (magic!), but the middle boy (man, really) is like us. Not having a technical career has hurt him deeply.
What does surprise me is the number of otherwise rational people who care about which set of millionaire athletes win which game.
Spectator sports are up there with Mom, Apple Pie, and Uncle Sam as touchstones for being American. Doubt fans think about the income/wealth status of the players when they watch a game. Can’t say I’ve never enjoyed watching a game, but it’s not something I do often. But I have been following Simone Biles at the Olympics because she’s the most fantastic of all of the many fantastic gymnasts. I could never even do a cartwheel when I was a kid and therefore, am astounded by what gymnasts do.
It surprises me that most of the crap on TV gets any audience at all. How can anyone not only subject themselves to the crap but also care about or demonstrate extreme interest in the people/characters that appear in them. How dull must one’s life be to watch a Kardashian show?
Local sports where you know at least one of the athletes is different. Kardashians! Ugh!
Still have that first PC. But the 486DX-100 is indeed obsolete. I could run it but the memory is too small for anything but DOS and the original hard drive was 528 Meg. Gave the hard drive away at the USPS to a guy that like playing DOS games and whose hard drive had died. AFAIK that old Conner is still running. Good stuff, designed and made on the West Coast USA.
Neglected to add that your comment is totally apropos to the discussion. In the sciences, tech, and engineering it’s a bit more difficult to substitute credentials for performance. And it’s nice to hear that performance remains key, at least in a federal agency. A friend that works at a large pharmaceutical has done well with a BS while most of her colleagues are PhDs, but she does allow that getting in the door with less than a PhD is rare these days.
Bridge of Spies was a good movie despite Tom Hanks. I thought the guy was a genius at comedy, but I’ve never much liked the bulk of his output, and I positively loathed “Forrest Gump” for its political angle (something that nobody else I know seems to understand).
Hanks always hits his marks. An incredibly reliable actor and a nice guy which is why he gets so much work. He’s like the boomer Jack Lemmon with less skill and talent, but still versatile enough.
“Forrest Gump” was what it was. Mediocre for me but others enjoyed it quite a lot.
I’m not a big Speilberg fan. He always lets his own stuff get in the way of making what for me would be a fine movie and ends up with okay to good. Too much poetic license for my taste in “Bridge.” However, when he casts a superior actor, he doesn’t interfere with their work. Day-Lewis’ performance in “Lincoln” was so sublime that I had to see it twice. Fortunately he dominated the film and is was easy enough to overlook/sit through the irritants a second time. (Fields was perfectly dreadful, but Speilberg has never worked well with an actress over the age of eight.) I felt the same way about Rylance in “Bridge”, but his screen time wasn’t enough to see it a second time. Have been debating seeing “BFG” — don’t expect I’ll enjoy it, but Rylance may make it worthwhile.
The first thing that occurred to me is “Listen, Liberal” by Thomas Frank.