Rudy Giu91an1 said “9/11” so many times that he seems to have forgotten when it took place. Oh, yeah. He’s just lying.
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It’s not just Trump. It’s his who bunch of scalawags who undercut the message whenever they need to orientate towards reality. They insist on making simple, exploitative comments that the media can latch onto.
They need a more preventative message, and there is nobody to give it to them.
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Giuliani makes Trump look like Abe Lincoln.
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I remember that trite slogan: “911 changed everything.” Well, I guess it did until it was convenient to forget – and throw under the bus anyone who was killed or injured during the attacks on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, the first responders, anyone who donated blood etc. to help those in need during those chaotic days in the aftermath, and so on. Giuliani should never be given air time. He was awful back during the run up to the War on Terra and he’s become worse with age. Feh.
Rudy Guilliani was a disgrace long before he was elected mayor of New York. His disgrace was his qualification. He was elected during a period of time, not unlike now (nor any other time) when the most disgraceful politicians won. Reagan. Bush. Clinton. Bush. Obama. Clinton. A pattern emerges. And it’s wrong.
Guilliani is either a loud-mouthed sick fuck or he’s a tool. Or he’s a loud-mouthed sick fuck because he’s a tool. Or he’s just a sick fuck. I don’t care.
How hard do I have to think about Rudi Guilliani? He ran down the street on some video they showed on television that morning 15 years ago next month. He looked like he was in charge. In that moment the most remarkable thing to me was that the mayor of NYC was a Republican. All the people in that city that must not have voted to prevent him from being elected. They had kids to feed and jobs to do on election day so they couldn’t vote. So he won. And 911. And he was notable in one of the biggest mass murders in the history of the United States. And he was proud of it.
I’m a New Yorker and and this point I’m so numbed to the 9/11 exploitation that I don’t even feel it any more…mostly. I’ve made my peace with my memories of that day (and I was lucky; I didn’t lose anyone) and I don’t like people making hay like this but I guess I’ve become inured.
From a geopolitical standpoint — meaning, outside the context of my city and my life — I think it’s ridiculous how they try to play it both ways: that we can trust them to do the thing only they can do, that they didn’t do (and that we did — all that Clinton/Gore anti-terrorism policy and investigation and military/espionage action that Bush and his gang of incompetent evil idiots disregarded)…Democrats can handle it and Republicans screwed it up worse than anyone ever has, but we nevertheless have to trust Republicans and not Democrats because they were the ones doing all the shouting from the White House etc. when the failure occurred.
It’s inverted Orwellian logic, and I hate it; we all hate it. But here it is, fifteen years later, all over again…it hasn’t gone away or diminished; it’s as brazen as ever.
Thinking about it (since posting the above comment), I’m realizing that the Republican 9/11 argument really is as insultingly incoherent and nonsensical as this.
The Republicans are saying:
The threat of a Middle-Eastern terrorist attack on American soil, specifically by the Taliban and bin Laden 1) was predicted by Clinton and Gore; 2) was ignored by Bush, who let it happen in the worst intelligence/security failure in 100 years (and then “avenged” it in an incoherent and nonsensical way that made every aspect of the problem worse); 3) was legitimately resolved post-facto by Obama and H. Clinton.
Nevertheless, not just despite but because of all of this, we must regard Republicans as the ones who both have “kept us safe” (in the past) and will “keep us safe” (in the future), because 1) as the party in power during 9/11, they were the ones reacting, verbally and through disastrous action, to what they had allowed to occur — we associate the disaster it with them — and therefore 2) they are the ones “aware of” the threat (since the Democrats were simply succeeding behind the scenes at preventing it).
It’s like saying, the hook-and-ladder who let the building burn down are the ones you need to trust to prevent future fires, since you associate them with the fire. It’s insane.
problem of accurately claiming credit for the “bad thing that didn’t happen” on your watch, at least in part due to your efforts to prevent it.
It’s a hard thing to get people to see. People like funders, for example.
I experienced this as science staff for a conservation non-profit.
Still, it’s important work and an invaluable contribution.
But, yeah, claiming higher qualification based on having been on duty when you failed to foresee and prevent the bad thing, despite strenuous warnings from your predecessors, is indeed Orwellian. Hence completely to be expected from current rightwingnuts.
One of the terms that Orwell coined in “1984” was “duckspeak”, the practice of blurting out party buzzwords and slogans nonstop without thinking. Well, Rudy, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and speaks like a duck…
Rudy’s just one of 3 surrogates that jumped the shark this week. Add to that Trump’s pronouncement that Obama was the founder of ISIS and the switch to attacking the media, which is fact checking them, and a picture emerges that team Trump has lost their last shred of sanity.
Now they’re all about capturing the headlines any way they can. In a bizarre round robin this week they made so many blatant lies that CNN even started fact checking on their crawl line then Trump used that to feed his ‘dishonest media’ charges.
This is a tipping point headed only one direction, Trump will drop out, his ego won’t allow him to be fired.
Ghouliani’s made a career out of capitalizing on the deaths of 3000+ US citizens, the horrible mis-treatment of all the first responsers who got so ill, all while baldly stating for years how Cheney/W “kept us safe.”
Ghouliani shouldn’t have a shred of credibility for anyone. Sadly the Fox/Rush crowd appear to love this amoral, feckless grifter.
Color me utterly unsurprised at this latest Ghouliani comment. As others have noted, Trump and his surrogates have been busily re-writing history for past many days.
Here’s the drill: everything bad that’s ever happened is solely and only the fault of Democrats. Everything fabulous is solely and only attributable to Republicans.
Got it? That’s the GOP playbook. Trump and his surrogates really are not doing anything new. In typical Trumpian fashion, they’ve just amped up the volume and become ever more brazen in the bullshit, hype and outright bald-faced lies.
IOW, yet another day ending in “y” in GOP-land.