Back in early April 2008, I wrote a piece on the state of the Democratic primaries in which I recommended that Clinton drop out. Still, I acknowledged that there had been upsides to her campaigning to that point, and potential upsides to her staying in the race:
The long and competitive primary on the Democratic side is going to prove extremely valuable for the Get Out the Vote effort this November, and it will also provide a wealth of data on a county-by-county basis for the Democratic nominee. Barack Obama will be able to see exactly where he is strong and weak in every state, while John McCain will be flying blind in most of them.
Many Clinton supporters cite things like this to defend her continued presence in the race, and they have a good point. Yet, I want to make an additional point. Of the remaining states after Pennsylvania, none are critical to a Democratic win in November. It’s possible that in a blow-out election that Obama could win North Carolina, Indiana, and Montana, but there just isn’t that much upside to getting more organization and information out of those states when you compare it to the potential downside of negative campaigning and lost time and resources.
Some have pointed out that the downside would be largely removed if Clinton were to stick to substance and run a positive campaign. First, that’s not really true. Obama would rather campaign in Colorado and Nevada than South Dakota and Puerto Rico. Second, Clinton’s surrogates are going around saying that they don’t think a black man can win. That’s not positive, and it’s not helpful. And it’s not likely to stop until her campaign quits.
Asking her to be positive is all well and good, but it’s basically like spitting in the wind. And all you have to ask is: who has a better chance? The black man, or Hillary Clinton after taking the nomination away from the black man in a brokered convention in late August? The question answers itself.
When the general election was over and I had a chance to look back, I attributed Clinton’s refusal to drop out to being the decisive factor in Obama winning in Indiana and North Carolina that year. As a result, I recanted on some of the above argument. The reason that Obama beat John McCain and Sarah Palin in those two traditionally Republican states (by the slimmest of margins) is because his data team and his organizers had to work over that territory with a fine-toothed comb to maximize his delegate haul against Clinton. Four years later, with a little less magic in his fuel-pack, and without having to weather a competitive primary, Indiana and North Carolina reverted back to the red column.
Throughout the 2008 primary, Obama enjoyed an immense advantage over the team Clinton had assembled. Most glaringly, Team Obama understood that the competition was for delegates, not votes and not states. In many congressional districts (say, districts with four delegates), both candidates were assured of getting two delegates unless one of them fell below 25% of the vote. And two-thirds of the delegates were assigned by congressional district. Therefore, Obama’s organizers and campaign team focused like a laser on odd-numbered delegate districts. This informed where Obama campaigned, where he advertised, who his people called, which doors got knocked, and how he polled.
This time around, the Clinton campaign has it all figured out, and the man in charge is named Elan Kriegel. Kriegal commands a high salary and a corner office in the Brooklyn headquarters, and the campaign makes few major decisions without his input. See if this sounds familiar:
First, the campaign ranked every congressional district by the probability that campaigning there could “flip” a delegate into Clinton’s column. Because every district has a different number of delegates allocated proportionally (in Ohio, for instance, 12 districts had 4 delegates each while one had 17), this involved polling and modeling Clinton’s expected support level, gauging the persuadability of voters in a particular area and then seeing how close Clinton was to a threshold that would tip another delegate in her direction. (At the most basic level, for instance, districts with an even number of delegates, say 4, are far less favorable terrain, as she and Bernie Sanders were likely split them 2-2 unless one of them achieved 75 percent of the vote.)
That so-called “flippability score” was then layered atop which media markets covered which seats. If a media market touched multiple districts with high “flippability” scores, it shot up the rankings. Then the algorithm took in pricing information, and what television programs it predicted the most “flippable” voters would be watching, to determine what to buy.
If that all sounds simple enough, it’s not. Every TV market reaches a different number of voters in a different number of districts, with her support in each a different estimated distance from a delegate threshold. Calculating where dollars would go furthest, per delegate, was an incredible statistical undertaking that was months in the making.
In the end, whatever the algorithms spat out, the campaign pretty much bought. “We relied almost entirely on them,” Mook said.
This was the kind of analysis I was doing in 2008, as well as colleagues like PsiFighter37 and Al Giordano. And it’s the kind of analysis that Clinton’s team, led by Mark Penn, was not doing. As I pointed out to Jerome Armstrong at the time, there was a huge penalty for not understanding the rules and not employing the latest in statistical analysis.
Jerome claims that Obama is ‘gaming the system’, but that is just a petulant way of saying that Obama’s campaign understands the system, while Hillary Clinton’s campaign does (or did) not.
After all, in a contest for delegates, what good does it do to ‘win’ Nevada and lose a delegate? What sense does it make to spend millions to get a 59-48 delegate advantage out of New Jersey only to see Obama spend $50,000 to get a 15-3 advantage out of Idaho?
But now it is Donald Trump who is running blind and Hillary Clinton who has learned from her mistakes.
The breakdown of the buy in Texas, powered by Kriegel’s modeling, shows how Clinton’s TV ads budget hunted for delegates, not votes. Texas is the rare state that used state legislative districts to award delegates, and Clinton spent $1.2 million on broadcast and cable ads even as she won the state by 32 percentage points. Sanders spent $0. She spent more on ads in tiny Brownsville ($127,000) and Waco ($142,000), ranked as the 86th and 87th largest media markets in the country, as she did in Houston ($105,000), the 10th largest, according to ad data provided by a media tracker.
It paid off: In Texas alone, Clinton netted 72 delegates more than Sanders — a margin that more than offset all the Sanders’ primary and caucus wins through March 1.
In other words, science, how does it work?
Trump doesn’t believe this science stuff can help or hurt him, which is why he’s as likely to be campaigning in Connecticut as Ohio. But he’s being outwitted.
Among the pioneering areas Kriegel’s analytics team has studied, according to people familiar with the operation, is gauging not just whom to talk to, how to talk to them and what to say — but when to say it. Is the best time to contact a voter, say, 90 days before the election? 60 days? One week? The night before? It is a question Obama’s team realized was crucial to mobilizing voters in 2012 but hed never been truly analyzed. With a full calendar of competitive primaries, Kreigel and his team had plenty of chances to run rigorous, control-group experiments to ferret out answers to such questions earlier this year.
Clinton has the basics figured out now, and her campaign is efficient and evidence-based. They pulled their advertising out of Virginia for a reason. Does Trump have a similar basis for putting his ad money into Virginia?
Donald Trump will spend more money this week in Virginia than anywhere else. Of the $3.5 million in advertising time he’s booked, $1.9 million will go into the commonwealth. More specifically, $1.4 million will be spent in the D.C. market.
This is notable because the Clinton campaign is so confident about its prospects that it has aired no ads on broadcast television in the state since Aug. 1. And the main pro-Clinton super PAC has canceled all of its reservations through the election.
The answer is ‘no.’ He’s buying there because he has to win Virginia, not because he hired some brainiacs to tell him how to get the best bang for his buck.
If Virginia gets worrisome for Clinton, she’ll hear about it first from Elan Kriegel, and they’ll make the needed adjustments.
Gotta be careful of that “science” stuff, Booman. Sometimes it gets…weird.
Ask Nate Silver.
AG
right.
he failed as a scientist.
Science didn’t fail Nate Silver. Nate Silver failed at science.
Indeed. As do so many others…
That’s what I am saying.
AG
Why am I unsurprised that Arthur would tell us to be careful of science?
Why am I unsurprised that you don’t have a clue about what I am saying?
AG
Because you have never yet given any reason for any damn thing you said.
Your entire reasoning is: Bet on it.
Doesn’t matter if you’re right or not, AG. Without something to back up your observations it’s just another delirium dream.
I suppose it was because of a “delirium dream” that I predicted Trump would win the nomination way back in July of last year? And ditto when i began waring y’all leftinesses not to take the polls showing HRC a “clear winner” too damned seriously.
Riiiight…
I’m just lucky that way.
Or…I’m onto something.
Believe what you must.
Meanwhile, back on der farm…der CNN farm:
Read ’em and weep, DF. From a shoo-in three weeks ago to a call ’em today.
Not a good month for the forces of PermaGov-style morality, eh?
Not a good month at all and still 2 months and a number of debates to go.
Bernie woulda done better.
Much better.
Unfortunately the insider politics against which Trump is running cut Sanders off at the knees and worse, got busted at it.
So it goes.
Down like a motherfucker.
I’m already considering Scandinavia, myself.
You?
AG
The political science of the electoral vote is that there is still a lot of variance (uncertainty) showing up in Nate Silver’s model even though the central tendency (expected value, mean) shows a 2-1 probability of a Clinton win.
The political science of Nate Silver’s model is that it aggregates lots of polls and compares them to aggregates of polls from past elections to determine similarities of outcomes at x days out from the election.
To my knowlege, Silver does not make adjustments to his model during the election coverage but between election cycles. This year the model has three versions (1) an if it were today version (essentially an aggregate of the reported poll data from polls), (2) a polls version (essentially his original model as tweaked between two previous election cycles, and (3) a polls-plus model that uses a economic-condition adjustment (again based on past election data) to inflate or deflate the effectively incumbent candidate’s polling results.
For popular vote, you need to look at the popular vote margins for each of the states to determine which states each candidate is ahead or behind. Silver’s page gives you that information as well as the ranking of tipping point states from most CLinton to most Trump. In his original model, North Carolina is the toss-up state and New Hampshire is the tipping point for electoral votes.
So I don’t get the denigration of Nate Silver’s model. What he writes as a pundit is open to errors of judgement, and those generally come from how wide the variance is. This year it is pretty wide and at the moment not bell-curved at all but relatively flat until it gets to its peaks. There are a lot of medium probability values of the electoral vote in the model that he generates 10,000 values for each night.
This is pretty good science, and a few other sources are beginning to build their own models.
Silver does not consider himself a pollster; he does not originate the data that he uses. His model aggregates the results of others’ sampling.
Today, the Polls Plus model (factoring in economic condition) shows a probability of 66.4% that Clinton wins with an expected 296 electoral votes and 47.1% of the popular vote nationwide. The other models are close to the same estimates.
The model does not have historical data on Green Party voting and Libertarian voting patterns likely have just enough historical data to consider. That is a product of the underlying polls and not a decision by Silver. But Johnson pulls 7% in today’s model.
I would say that at the moment, the Clinton campaign is on their usual minimalist “just get a win” track. The result of that is the risk of not getting the Congress back (either house). Writing of Strickland’s campaign seems to be the first of that concession.
August was an excellent month until Trump rejiggered his campaign staff, the media decided to narrow the horse race, and the Clinton campaign acted like they didn’t see either of these moves coming. They got cocky off of Trump’s unforced error in attacking the Khans during the Democratic National Convention.
What is clear now is that they must get better at working over the media if they are going to pursue the marketing-focused campaign. Otherwise they will spend gobs of money on ads trying to shore up Clinton’s positives or redundantly hitting on Trump’s negatives.
Debates are for Clinton to lose, Trump already has low expectations–that’s his gambit always, exceeding extremely low expectations. It worked for W, didn’t it?
I’m not sure it matters much that Gary Johnson is polling at 7%. He polled between 3-6% in 2012, but received .99% of the vote. According to Gallup, there is little support for 3rd party candidates.
“The drop in support during the campaign is likely due to two factors. First, historically, third-party candidates’ support typically drops as the campaign approaches Election Day, perhaps because voters realize the candidates have little chance to win. Second, generally speaking, support for third-party candidates tends to be higher in the broader pool of registered voters than in the smaller group of actual voters.”
http://www.gallup.com/poll/155537/little-support-third-party-candidates-2012-election.aspx
But Johnson pulls 7% in today’s model.
Johnson isn’t going to get anywhere near 7% come November. Most of them will go to Trump, I have to imagine. And in the end, they’ll put aside their Trump dislike because their dislike of Hillary is a lot stronger. I doubt they want to be Nader-ized.
I would say that at the moment, the Clinton campaign is on their usual minimalist “just get a win” track. The result of that is the risk of not getting the Congress back (either house). Writing of Strickland’s campaign seems to be the first of that concession.
I would hope they aren’t. Strickland needs to get his act together. So does the DSCC. They picked him after all. Why doesn’t Tim Ryan ever run statewide?
August was an excellent month until Trump rejiggered his campaign staff, the media decided to narrow the horse race, and the Clinton campaign acted like they didn’t see either of these moves coming.
Does her campaign not understand the media after all these years? They need a close race for a few reasons. Mostly boiling down to $$$$$$$. No one is going to tune into a blowout. Clinton certainly isn’t going to spend a tin on TV ads if Trump’s campaign implodes. And TV lives off political campaign ad money. Boo can probably tell you he’s seen a million Toomey ads by now. And a million more are still to come. The networks and TV stations are junkies, addicted to that political ad money and they do anything to get their fix!!
When you let videos do your talking for you, don’t complain you’ve been misunderstood.
It’s not their fault, it’s yours.
I am not surprised that i am being misunderstood, jsrtheta. I am actually quite used to it. Nor am I “complaining” about it.
I try to speak to those who can hear what I am saying and perhaps have some need for it..
One mind at a time is all I ask.
The rest?
Just part of the process.
AG
AG:
Booman writes:
Yes. Tactical mistakes, not strategic. She still has the same neoliberal goals as she did then. Learning from old mistakes does not necessarily mean one will not make new ones, though.
The real question is…have we learned from her propensity for making mistakes?
It seems not.
Not enough of us, anyway.
Show business is our life!!!
Both irretrievably moored in the past.
AG
Yep. Vote Stein. Get Giuliani as Attorney General, Trump’s son for Interior, and great appointments to the FCC.
It’s time true progressives stop the neoliberal corporatist Clintonista triangulizers from controlling this country!
Yup. Vote Clinton. Get Kissinger as the elder statesman/advisor and Goldman Sachs as Secretary of the Treasury. Get the inventor and prime mover of the Ukraine crisis Victoria Nuland as Sec State.
Sounds great to me…
Not.
AG
Yeah. Some of us want to have a working government.
Others are too pure for that. They prefer chaos, as long as it doesn’t insult their ideology.
You’re in Group 2.
Actually, I want to have a working government too. One that works rationally under the laws of common decency. We do not have that now and we assuredly will not get it under either of the two current candidates. Thus I oppose them both.
AG
Yet a President will be elected, and that President will need to help governing the nation the bast way possible. Jamming your fingers in your ears or placing your palms over your eyes will not prevent that from happening.
We want the governance which delivers policies closest to our ideals. The two candidates are offering distinctly different foreign and domestic policies. One comes much closer to the progressive/liberal ideal.
One will torture people; the other will not.
One will work on improving health care reform; the other will repeal it.
One will raise the minimum wage; the other says our Federal minimum wage is too high for American workers to be globally competitive.
One will oppress Muslims and others; the other will not.
The list goes on and on. People must choose. Not voting is a choice. A bad choice, but a choice nonetheless.
That’s not a mistake. That’s intentional.
P.P.S. Clinton has also earned from her 2008 so-called “mistakes.”
Goldman Sachs et al have seen to that.
Bet on it.
AG
Hmm. Someone offers you $250,000 to do a speech. You turn it down.
And this is a sign of intelligence because…?
I am a moderately successful, longtime freelance NYC musician but certainly not a wealthy one by any means. I have turned down work that paid quite well in my own field for ethical reasons…cigarette commercials. (including one where I would have been the model that would paid really well), military commercials, almost all of Broadway because it is now anti-music at the highest level. It all depends on who is offering the 250 grand.
Would you turn down Trump if you thought he would be using you to his advantage> The Ku Klux Klan? To take it to extremes…Hitler?
There is an old joke that goes like this:
A well dressed man walks up to an obviously upper class woman and says “Would you go to bed with me for a million dollars dollars?” She thinks for a moment and then says “Tell me more.” He says “How about for $10?” She is insulted and angrily answers “What do you take me for? Some kind of whore???!!!” He replies “We have already established what you are and are not; now we are only negotiating price.”
Like dat.
AG
So this go-round she’s going to denounce US militarism, and provide for worker ownership and/or control of the means of production, distribution and finance?
Because if she does that, she’d win in a walk.
She’s not going to win this way, looks like to me.
Assange is going to put the finishing touches on, sooner or later.
Watch.
AG
P.S. It’s way too late for her to changes tactic now. She’s stuck with herself and her history.
Not to pee in your cornflakes, but will be curious to see what the electoral success rate in state govt will be in comparison to DNC candidates in prior years.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/19428/august-was-a-huge-month-for-berniecrats
Wow, thanks for that link. It certainly cuts through the bullshit.
In hindsight, my predictions weren’t all that bad!
I do wonder, though, if Clinton pulling advertising means that the downticket effect won’t be as strong. And they have to put that money to work somewhere…at this point, I think OH, PA, IA, NV and FL still need the money. I would also run a lot of advertising in AZ, NC, MO and GA, though…need to start flipping more red states into the purple column. We have the natural advantage, and the more we can press the GOP to be playing on their shrinking turf, the better.
But then the President would have few excuses about a hostile Congress.
I see the establishment Democrats trying hard not to do the obvious–making a strong argument that 48 years of conservative power has failed to contribute anything at all to American life. I leave the details of that as an exercise. It’s really pretty easy.
I don’t get it at all.
Win VA, PA and CO and you win. Period.
It seems a mistake to ever pull out from those states.
That is your firewall. CO was the tipping point in ’08 and in ’12.
Why would you EVER take down ads in states that guarantee victory.
Maybe they see numbers I don’t: but it seems like hubris to me.
And hell in 2008 Nate Silver was citing me in the primaries.
Has she learned really about how to use surrogates? Or is she tacking close so as to not have to make changes in the way she wants to set up a transition team and a Presidency so as to exclude some old colleagues?
Tom Sullivan on what Elizabeth Warren is up to.
Come for the politics, stay for the ICP references.
Boorman when you posted the Dallas Morning News post I went back and read what they wrote about her when they endorsed her in the primary.
Then when you posted this post, I had to laugh… The DMN agrees with you…this is from Feb 12th:
“They tune out Clinton’s talk about her past. But it’s precisely her history — and what she has learned from it — that make her promises for the future more bankable.”
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20160212-editorial-we-recommend-hillary-clinton-for-dem
ocratic-presidential-nomination.ece