It’s unfortunate that the two major American political parties have evolved in a way where one party gains an advantage by making it easier to vote and the other gains an advantage by making it harder to vote. It’s a problem because it introduces self-interest into a question that shouldn’t be partisan. Who should vote?
You can come at that question in a number of ways: legal, constitutional, ethical, philosophical, idealistic, ideological, etc. I come at it in a practical way.
In a representative democracy, you exchange some rationality and expertise (which are both overrated among elites anyway) for legitimacy. You want a population that consents to be governed and that respects the laws. Without that, you can’t build up a peaceful and prosperous country, especially if you want to avoid suppressing people’s rights. An individual’s vote is only decisive in the rarest of cases (although it happens more than you might think), but it’s important that no one is shut out.
This view comes at the question much differently from those who focus on voters having some minimal base of knowledge with which to make decisions, whether that’s on candidates or referendums. There are certainly a lot of people who know absolutely nothing of value to assist them in making decisions about our foreign policy or to judge between competing health, education, and tax plans. Why would we want the opinion of these people? Why not insist that voters have some minimal level of education? Can they even read and write? Are they sane? Are they criminals?
We don’t allow voter registration officials to give tests to applicants. The right to vote is strongly protected under our current legal regime. And we have been expanding access to the ballot in a variety of ways in recent decades, from lowering the voting age to creating same-day registration to expanding vote-by-mail to setting up early voting centers. The Republican Party is now openly at war with these reforms and has even gone so far as to invent in-person voter fraud as a concern that justifies requiring state-issued photo identification for people who want to cast their votes. The GOP lawyers and election officials who challenge these laws continue to lose in court with regularity.
They’ve had successes, though. They destroyed my former employer ACORN, for example. ACORN was mainly a housing advocacy group dedicated to helping people avoid losing their homes, but they advocated for a variety of issues of pressing concern to inner city communities. And they were very good at registering people to vote which is why they were targeted and destroyed.
It wouldn’t have made sense for Republicans to attack ACORN though if the party did well with minorities at the ballot box. If they won, say, 35% of the black vote, it wouldn’t have been worth the effort to destroy ACORN. The campaign was only rational because blacks and other minorities overwhelmingly support their opponents.
Now, Donald Trump is taking things to another level in questioning the legitimacy of our elections. And his surrogates are playing along.
What’s more, several high-profile Republicans are endorsing Trump’s rigged election narrative, showing no signs they’ll vouch for the legitimacy of the process. “They are attempting to rig this election,” Senator Jeff Sessions said on Saturday. “They will not succeed.” Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich on Sunday accused TV executives of a “coup d’etat” against Trump. And former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani pushed the voter fraud canard Sunday on CNN, saying, “I’m sorry, dead people generally vote for Democrats.”
As I said at the top, at least part of the reason why we want everyone to have the right and opportunity to vote is pragmatic. If they feel that they have a voice in the outcome, they’re more likely to submit to authority (in the good sense). In a typical American election, more than forty percent of the people vote for the loser. We need them to accept the outcome without resorting to violence or widespread civil disobedience. I assume that I’d get more agreement on this from traditional conservatives than the more antiestablishment and countercultural left.
Deliberately undermining millions of people’s faith in the fairness of a presidential election is the opposite of practical in this sense. It’s an incitement to civil disorder and an invitation for huge numbers of people to disrespect the law and the legitimacy of authority. It’s not conservative in any normal sense of the word.
Of course it’s dangerous, but it’s also ideologically schismatic.
Yet, it’s a logical outgrowth of the GOP’s self-interest in voter suppression.
Democrats are taking the high road on these voting issues and they have the courts on their side. It’s just unfortunate that the purity of their motives is called into question because they’re the party that benefits when more people vote. Would Democrats defend voting rights if their chances were diminished by good turnout?
I actually think they would, but not with the same energy and urgency.
I’m hoping we can get to the point (peaceably) in this country where conservatives relinquish control of the Republican Party rather than hold onto it like grim death. Because, as long as conservatives control the GOP and refuse to bend to a changing demographic reality in this country, they will continue to work at disenfranchising people and calling into question the integrity of our election system. And that’s a recipe for dystopia.
An individual’s vote is only decisive in the rarest of cases (although it happens more than you might think) . . .
Does it happen at all?
I’m hoping we can get to the point (peaceably) in this country where conservatives relinquish control of the Republican Party rather than hold onto it like grim death.
How does that happen?
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This anecdote is, uh…colorful?
It certainly demonstrates the point behind your recent statement that “The time for complacency is over.”
This anecdote is, uh…colorful?
It certainly demonstrates the point behind your recent statement that “The time for complacency is over.”
A switch of 9 votes in 3 precincts in West Des Moines would have flipped 3 county delegates to Sanders.
As a result Sanders would have won Iowa.
Those are precincts I was responsible for, and I know the math.
There were county delegates in Iowa that were decided by coin flips because there were ties.
I will say that the behavior of the Iowa Democratic Party in the lead up to the Iowa Caucuses process Booman wrong – we are no better than the other side.
I can make a very good argument Iowa was stolen by the creation of bureaucratic obstacles. I don’t believe that was the INTENT, but I have no doubt but for those bureaucratic obstacles, which included the outrageous under staffing of precincts (which led to people leaving) and the late switching of caucus locations, Sanders would have won Iowa.
The idea there are clean hands here is laughable.
My experience with the Democratic convention delegate process is that it’s Byzantine by design. The insiders are making the rules complicated so that only the insiders know what’s going on, when, and where. The ‘civilians’ are left to fend for themselves.
The establishments in both parties just want their favored folks to exercise the vote. Otherwise all these issues would have disappeared a long time ago.
General election voting should be a guaranteed right for all eligible citizens and interference with exercising that vote should be a crime for individuals/private organizations and civil penalties should be applied to state and local authorities/officials that interfere in the process.
This evolving dystopia is like the housing bubble. Every rational person can see things are out of balance. Everyone can see it can’t go on forever. But it’s impossible to predict exactly how or when it will all come crashing down.
There are many who have a vested interest in pretending (and even believing) everything’s normal. Others are in various stages of grief — denial, bargaining, rage.
I think we’re beginning to see an outline of the end. The Republican party is dividing against itself. If Trump, upon losing, calls the results into question, which almost certainly will, the pressure on people like Paul Ryan to openly disavow, regardless of the political price he will pay, will be enormous. We’re getting to a point where supposedly moderate Republicans will be forced to come down on one side of things or the other. When that happens, we may have hit the point where there’s no going back. And it could happen within the next month. Or people like Ryan may get away with obfuscating a while longer.
Apparently, George Will has chosen the Trumpist side. He is already claiming the government itself has been a participant in rigging several past elections as well as the impending one. Specifically, the IRS.
How soon after the election will the first calls for secession begin?
Everything is in your third graf. The Republicans do not want the consent of the governed. They specifically want to govern the Democratic constituencies without their consent. That is the ball game. If they had the consent, that would vitiate the emotional reward. This has been so since the “Reagan Revolution”.
The rest — cf. your use of the phrase “representative democracy”, along with almost everything else that has ever been written on this topic — comes back to the inextricable confusion between democracy and the republic, which are two completely different things.
They think they are the only people who count “real Merkins” as Bush said. Therefore any attempt to use democratic means (voting) to oppose them or force them from power is de facto not legitimate. Therefore any tactic, including fraud, force or deception to protect the white vote is legitimate. This is a “war” on white people and they mean to fight back by any means – and whether elites think such means legitimate is of no concern.
Liberals are going to have to approach this as a war to the death with fascists if we are to win, because that’s how they approach it. And no logic or reason is going to convince them otherwise, because they don’t care about democracy, they care about winning. Liberals think “we’ll get more people and then we’ll win.” Conservatives think: “if we didn’t win it must be due to cheating.” And they act accordingly to de-legitimize the entire electoral process and try and pass laws to suppress their political opponents.
The solution to all this is to appoint liberal judges who will rule that “scientific gerrymandering” and “Voter Fraud” statutes are per-se unconstitutional impediments to exercise of a constitutional right to vote for all citizens, not just the white ones.
BooMan’s post is very good, but it doesn’t really get into the main deception going on here.
Republicans benefit when fewer vote, so they supress votes (this actually happens in reality; it’s been documented many times). Democrats benefit when more people vote, so they…set up voting drives? Fight gerrymandering? Protect polling places? Streamline Draconian registration rules? (Nothing illegal, is my point).
But some Republicans — Trump supporters, and Trump, for example — believe (based on no actual evidence) that they are a plurality of voters (a “silent majority”) whose will is being suborned by stolen votes.
Nobody “steals votes.” Even the worst cases of voter fraud on record (you can even include the Brooks Brothers Riot in Florida in 2000) are about supressing votes. The entire thing is a fantasy. It’s helped along by Trump’s ignorance — he’s never voted in his life (as has been conclusively shown) and doesn’t know how it works, and is generally stupid, so he thinks that “people can vote over and over” and “illegals can be brought in from across the border to vote” and other childish fantasies. And his followers believe it.
This, combined with the psychological insanity of “open carry” laws (which allow white men to behave like children running around with toy guns, and defend their play-acting by citing “the constitution”) create a truly dangerous fantasyland in which armed “patriots” are supposed to stop “illegals” (meaning non-whites) from voting. It’s a horror show — it’s as close to Nazi as this country’s ever gotten.
to Trump’s wingnuts for a very good reason: they’ve been operating/approving a massive anti-democratic campaign to rig elections in their favor for a very long time now.
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Now it’s “caging”; “felon” purges; voter ID laws; reduction/elimination of early voting and same-day registration and voting; etc., etc., etc.
An example of voter fraud:
http://addictinginfo.org/2013/02/04/ann-coulter-under-investigation-for-voter-fraud-again/
This will not be popular here: but how is the different that those who said Ohio was stolen in 2004?
That had a little more basis in fact, though it was still utter nonsense.
I have worked on the front lines of voter suppression for more than a decade. People should be VERY careful about alleging voter fraud. I had a yelling match in a precinct in Florida in 2008 with a Bush lawyer over provisional ballots – he was convinced I was trying to help steal Florida.
My guess is things would be very different had Gore and Bush reached an agreement about a standard for the Florida recount. bush decided to win at all costs. This created suspicion among Democrats about Ohio in 2004 – despite the fact Bush led in 12 of the last 13 polls in Ohio, and it really wasn’t all that close (3 points is a decent margin)
Unfortunately when it mattered some – though far from most – we were prone to the same silliness. So to were some of the Sanders supporters, including one who once wrote on the front page here.
There are no clean hands here. If people want to lower the volume on this discussion, they need to start with that observation.
But no one will.
Funny, I don’t remember hearing John Kerry predicting voter fraud before the election.
It’s different because the party has officially embraced it.
That’s an important distinction.
“They destroyed my former employer ACORN, for example.”
So, what would you like to say to James O’Keefe? What would you recommend I say to him, should I ever be so unfortunate as to encounter him?