Catherine Rampell of the Washington Post is worried that Mick Mulvaney will blow up the global economy by destroying the creditworthiness of the United States’ debt. It’s not an unreasonable concern considering that Mulvaney has been nominated to serve as Trump’s director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), a position which is responsible for preparing the president’s budget proposal to Congress.
Mulvaney is most famous as a congressman for being a debt ceiling truther. That is, he joined irresponsible nutcases like Paul Ryan in arguing that the United States government could fail to make debt payments on time without defaulting on its debt or causing a downgrade in our nation’s credit rating.
Here’s how Ryan, who was then serving as the House Budget Committee chairman, put it in June 2011:
“If a bondholder misses a payment for a day or two or three or four — what is more important is you are putting the government in a materially better position to better pay its bills going forward.”
In early August 2011, Standard & Poor’s downgraded our credit rating simply because we had come so close to defaulting.
Here’s what Mulvaney said in October 2013:
“We’re not going to default; there is no default. There’s an [Office of Management and Budget] directive from the 1980s, the last time we got fairly close to not raising the debt ceiling, that clearly lays out the process by which the Treasury secretary prioritizes interest payments.”
Days later, Fitch Ratings issued a warning that “it could cut the sovereign credit rating of the United States from AAA, citing the political brinkmanship over raising the federal debt ceiling” and “Dagong Global Credit Rating downgraded the United States from A to A-, and maintained a negative outlook on the country’s credit.”
Since entering Congress, Mulvaney has never voted to raise the debt ceiling and has opposed all budget deals crafted to avoid default. He has consistently argued that that we can prioritize interest payments without doing damage to our credit or blowing up the global economy.
As Rampell notes, Mulvaney is out of his mind. And Trump is insane on this issue, too.
…Mulvaney and the president-elect have at least one major thing in common: an alarming openness to defaulting on the federal debt.
“I would borrow knowing that if the economy crashed you could make a deal,” [Trump] said.
When the financial press freaked out, he walked back the language — only to revive it a month later.
Mulvaney has also questioned the need to preserve the country’s sterling reputation as a borrower.
I encourage you to peruse the historical list of directors of the OMB. Pay special attention to the Republicans who have served in the position, because they definitely tend toward the less nutty and more reality-based variety of conservative. You’ll see names like Josh Bolten, who later became President George W. Bush’s chief of staff, Mitch Daniels, who went on to serve two terms as governor of Indiana, and Rob Portman, who currently serves in the U.S. Senate. The most notorious name on the list is David Stockman, the main defender of Ronald Reagan’s delusion trickle-down supply-side theory of budgetary economics. Here’s a reminder of how Stockman worked out in the job.
Stockman was quoted as referring to Reagan’s tax act in these terms: “I mean, Kemp-Roth [Reagan’s 1981 tax cut] was always a Trojan horse to bring down the top rate…. It’s kind of hard to sell ‘trickle down.’ So the supply-side formula was the only way to get a tax policy that was really ‘trickle down.’ Supply-side is ‘trickle-down’ theory.” Of the budget process during his first year on the job, Stockman was quoted as saying, “None of us really understands what’s going on with all these numbers.”
…Stockman became concerned with the projected trend of increasingly large federal deficits and the rapidly expanding national debt. On 1 August 1985, he resigned from OMB and later wrote a memoir of his experience in the Reagan Administration titled The Triumph of Politics: Why the Reagan Revolution Failed in which he specifically criticized the failure of congressional Republicans to endorse a reduction of government spending to offset large tax decreases to avoid the creation of large deficits and an increasing national debt.
As Rampell mentions, while Trump and Mulvaney may both demonstrate an alarming willingness to stiff our creditors, they differ about the advisability of deficit spending. This puts him in Stockman’s role vis-a-vis Reagan, where agreement over tax decreases and the resulting revenue loss is not matched with a commitment to cut spending. Stockman blamed Congress rather than Reagan (or his own ridiculous theory), and Mulvaney would surely do the same. The results, however would be the same: exploding debts and a need to repeatedly raise the debt ceiling.
To refresh your memory there were “18 increases to the debt ceiling between February 1981 and September 1987.”
There’s simply nothing in Mulvaney’s record to indicate that he’d countenance the timely raising of the debt ceiling, let alone having to do it eighteen times in a six and a half year span.
Rampell offers one slim reed of hope:
Our best bet is that the two Goldman Sachs alumni taking White House roles (including Treasury secretary, the post directly responsible for managing the public debt) can explain to Trump why these kinds of actions would blow up the world.
Let’s just hope they’re the ones he listens to when the time comes.
So, we’re hoping the Goldman Sachs guys will save us.
Feel better?
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He could just as well be used as a conduit to sell his plans to the Freedom Caucus. At least that’s how I read this pick. More Bannon, less Priebus/Pence, and Bannon is the one who wants infrastructure spending.
what’s sad is that that is what you are hoping, with good reason.
Well Trump certainly doesn’t stumble upon these fools all by himself, and knows jack about how to move the bureaucracy. Priebus/Ryan have no love for the guy when he’s in Congress, and Bannon wants to direct the budget to make it go through. What other reading is here? Unless they want to deliberately default and that’s why they picked him, but I don’t think that’s true, even if it could happen under his watch because of ignorance.
Treasury bonds are a good savings account. What the government owes in debt someone else holds as a savings account: the other side of the same transaction. They don’t pay as much interest anymore but are good for savings and pension funds. But, it the deficit and debt becomes intolerable to these nut bags lets just suggest they stop issuing bonds. You know just print the money you need. Who would care? O some folks who hold bonds for security or income I suppose.
What freaking idiots these guys are. They have no idea how a sovereign currency works, or they do, and just make shit up as an excuse to cut the budget. When Trump decides to default the world economy will shutter for sure. I doubt he will since some of his buddies with lots of money will call him aside before he becomes insane and read him the riot act – which will not be pretty. Let’s take bets.
Trump really does want to blow it all up.
I’m sure it will be profitable for him.
Man, just how many clowns are in Der Trumper’s clown car? Which is an insult to clowns, as they at least know how to do their job! And this is without mentioning (non-economist) supply-side hack Kudlow as chair of the Council of Economic Advisors!
With every nominee it grows clearer that Trump is a conservative extremist in virtually every particular. Now we have a debt ceiling denier to go along with the climate deniers, great.
One has to wonder exactly how this delusional rightwing nutjob for OMB plans to square the circle. Trumper is committed to a military build-up and almost certainly to greater (costly) intervention in the ME. He is committed to massive tax cuts. He is committed to repealing Obamacare. Gruppenfuhrer Bannon crows that Der Trumper is committed to an infrastructure program because “the costs of borrowing are so low”. These all increase the deficit, and by a large amount, duh.
So Der Trumper then appoints a debt ceiling extremist to OMB. We know that there will be very considerable cuts to SS and Medicaid, and maybe to current Medicare recipients. Federal enforcement agencies, cut to non-existence. But whatever of these they cut, it can NEVER make up for the budget busting plans above.
So I suppose they project absurd growth—5%, 7%, 10%, say anything, why not?–it’s just a piece of paper. But reality has to assert itself within the very first fiscal year and the actual deficit explodes. What then does a “team” with a debt ceiling denier do?
Methinks Mr Mulvaney better have his lobbying gig sewed up as he won’t be a part of this admin very long, unless he’s simply another Repub hypocrite.
Also, too, this is great for equity markets how?
LOTS of clowns.
But he does appear to be scraping the bottom of the barrel. I mean, c’mon! His attorney for ambassador to Israel?
Grifters and loyalists all. It’s almost like he watched Obama and wants the complete opposite.
But quite a few variation in egos. I can see conflict coming. And a lot of leaking.
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There are a number of issues with any of the Freedom Caucus nutcakes imposing their wishdreams on the budget. “Prioritizing interest payments” looks to me as code for “Stiff the Social Security Trust Fund in its interest payments”. Is all “internal”. Right? Or looking at the $3 Trillion (Only 16% of the national debt) as free money available for Congress to piss away on whatever, even with a figleaf of “repayment to the seniors.”
There are other ways besides outright default to create the needed crisis that allows Congress to do whatever it has been wanting to do for decades, except for the politics and usually the President.
There is something very weird about the Freedom Caucus. Look at their resumes. Here is Mulvaney’s:
Wikipedia: Mick Mulvaney
High performer at Georgetown University and UNC-Chapel Hill Law School.
Where exactly are their crazy ideas coming from? These are prestige (elite) college people who one would think were smarter than the ideas they are spouting.
I think we need to start asking some serious questions about Penn (and Wharton), Yale, Harvard, Georgetown, UNC-CH Law, and some of the other elite schools who are turning out these nutcakes. (Not all of them are from Texas A&M.)
taxes aren’t actually necessary with a sovereign currency, the question is do we take a fairly straight forward step to eliminate taxes and just make the money we need to run government
Taxes are indeed necessary even with a sovereign currency. They are the mechanism by which you drain money out of the economy when the amount of money circulating is inflating the sovereign currency. Government expenditures are how people receive the money (directly or indirectly) to pay their taxes.
It is financing through indebtedness that is not necessary with a sovereign currency.
What gets dicey is when foreign transactions use your sovereign currency as a matter of convenience, and the government cannot use taxes or expenditures to control the supply used outside the country.
there are other ways to do that, if you can create money you can destroy it
taxes aren’t necessary
I wasn’t making a realistic policy proposal though, it was more of a wistful musing
If the GOP Senate confirms the Trump “Neanderthal” appointments, it will be the GOP blowing up the world and they will have multiple means for doing so.
A big mistake that Democrats made in the time of Bush/Cheney, IMHO, was to limit and contain their exposure and criticism of the Bush/Cheney appointments to Bush/Cheney and the appointees and not the political party that was enabling the destruction that Bush/Cheney were perpetrating. Thus, GWB barely won in ’04 but the GOP had major Senate gains. Senate Democrats did better after ’04 in making cases against Bush nominees. Enough to cause the withdrawal of the Miers nomination but not enough to defeat the Alito one.