First the good part. The military strikes that Donald Trump authorized tonight against a Syrian airfield avoided many possible pitfalls. The target made sense, as it is the Intelligence Community’s assessment that the presumed sarin attacks that were carried out three days ago were launched from that particular airfield. If early reports are correct (and we know that they often are not), the Russians were forewarned, thereby hopefully allowing them to avoid taking casualties which might result in an unpredictable escalation. Also, the missile strikes did not create any necessary logic of mission creep, which is vitally important because we have no overarching mission in Syria due to the fact that we don’t want any armed faction to win.
The Obama administration wisely refrained from toppling Assad once it became clear that the likely beneficiaries would be extremist Sunni militants. They smartly avoided being pressured into taking a Sunni-centric position on the civil war, and they also were sensitive enough to realize that it would cause irreparable harm to our efforts to work with the Shiite dominant government in Baghdad. At the same time, they had both humanitarian and geopolitical reasons for not wanting the resistance to the Assad regime to be crushed underfoot. To stand aside while that happened would create enormous problems with Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and the Gulf states (where we have both air and naval bases).
Unfortunately, this put us in the position of preferring a continuance of the war to any possible short-term resolution of the war, and that allowed the refugee problem to blossom into a huge headache for our European allies accompanied by a far-right political backlash that is still playing out.
The missile strikes tonight won’t solve these conundrums, but they won’t in and of themselves exacerbate any of them.
The other positive thing I can say is that there is a good justification for these strikes (assuming the evidence bears out) because some entity must enforce the ban on chemical and biological weapons. If you think about this narrowly, by smacking Assad in the face for using sarin gas, while not doing anything to fundamentally alter the battlefield, the United States is saying that we don’t even have to be dedicated to your defeat in war to punish you for waging war with banned weapons.
As with nuclear nonproliferation, it would be best if the United Nations could act with one voice and be the enforcement mechanism, but it cannot act if one of the permanent members of the Security Council blocks action, as Russia has in this case. And, regardless, once the UN authorizes a military response, someone has to carry it out.
There are real problems with the United States bearing this kind of burden, whether it is blessed by the international community or not, but the alternative is nuclear proliferation and battlefield use of WMD without any deterrence or consequence. Either that, or these strikes will be carried out by the only other militaries capable of doing them, which would be China or Russia. I’m not ready to hand that responsibility off to them, and they wouldn’t reliably assume the responsibility anyway.
So, we’re treated to the odd spectacle of our president taking a break from meeting with the Chinese president to inform us that he’s launched missile strikes that were not approved by China (a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council) in order to enforce international norms.
A ton could go wrong with this. Our president doesn’t seem to have the capacity or attention span to grasp all the risks of what he’s done here. But it does seem that he listened to his national security staff and made sure to authorize something that has a minimal risk of escalation and doesn’t commit us to any further action in any particular direction.
I do want to know more, though, because we used a lot of firepower considering what we set out to destroy:
The U.S. military launched 59 cruise missiles at a Syrian military airfield late on Thursday, in the first direct American assault on the government of President Bashar al-Assad since that country’s civil war began six years ago…
…In comparison, the start of the Iraq war in 2003 saw the use of roughly 500 cruise missiles and 47 were fired at the opening of the anti-Islamic State campaign in Syria in 2014.
To me, using more than a tenth of the Shock-and-Awe arsenal that signaled the start of the second Iraq War seems like overkill if all we were targeting was an airfield, some hangars and a few oil depots. It’s awfully expensive, too. But I suppose part of the point was to make a strong impression.
It’s too early to say whether this action is something I can support. If it’s the beginning of a war to topple the Assad regime and we have no plan for the aftermath, then I could not be more opposed to it. But if it is just a statement that we we’re willing to enforce norms against the use of WMD (and that’s all it is) then all I want to see is the evidence that the Assad regime did what we’re accusing them of doing. I don’t doubt it, but I also think it’s very important that these types of things are supported by vigorous evidence that is convincing to the world.
I don’t like that our nation is in this position of acting sometimes unilaterally to prevent the use and proliferation of WMD. I think we underestimate how much resentment and blowback it causes. But I don’t support giving up on these norms, either.
In general, with this administration, my disposition is to oppose all military missions on the theory that they’ll screw up even the well-intended ones, but this one so far looks to have been carefully designed to minimize that risk. I hope I’m right.
Hmmm…weird week: Trump approval rating plummets, Sarin gas attack, Steve Bannon expelled from his National Security Council seat, and a strong show of force against the Assad Regime by the Trumpster. Something foreboding in the Shire/ a small disturbance in the Force?
This war won’t end until Assad is out. Too many “allies” have their own agendas, and we of course have our own that might be endangered depending on what actions are taken (as you point out with respect to ISIS in Iraq). So what, we just keep extending the life of the civil war because of our own geopolitical interests?
And yet, Trump understands none of this. For that reason alone escalation should be avoided. He can’t properly weigh pros and cons. He only understands bombing.
Still, we have been bombing in Syria since 2014 — you ain’t going to find me crying over planes of Assad’s destroyed. May he rot. And fuck the Assad apologists on this site.
Look, they’re already here. “Jihadi false flag gas attack!”
Jesus Christ the “left” has lost all fucking sense. No wonder liberals punch us.
Before we wrap ourselves around this axle I want to know with some certainty if the chemical attack was by Assad or something else. Also, what happens after we kick him out? A surrogate Saudi Sunni? Will that advance whatever cause you have in mind? Does it matter that Assad is allied with Iran, Iraq and Russia and do they have any say in what happens next? This situation was a clusterfuck before the latest and it is still today. Somehow I had this nutty feeling that Obama was advancing the ball.
Hey if you want to call for a full fledged investigation that is fine and not tantamount to denial. In fact I’m in favor of such an investigation. But that’s not the same thing as using the words “fake CW attack” as others have done here.
>>fuck the Assad apologists on this site.
fuck the any-war-any-time hawks on this site.
Point me to them bro. Where?
My sincere hope is this just symbolic, and limited to convey a message about the use of WMD.
But even if that is what was intended, I doubt it will be limited because the logic always becomes “well that didn’t work, so now we have to do more”.
Are multiple deaths now to be considered “symbolic,” fladem?
What is it was your son?
Great work.
AG
That’s a good comment. The problem is always “what’s next”.
If your opponent wants to suck you in, they will do it again. And you will do what? That was the whole logic of Bin Laden: escalation.
W was stupid enough to take the bait / start a war for no good reason with no credible objectives. Will Trump take the bait? I hate to say it, one of the constants of his character is “Hitting Back”. He’s a man-child.
It probably wont end even if Assad goes. Hard to imagine any faction getting that much monopoly of force.
The war itself will definitely continue because of all the imperialist forces involved. If Iran/Russia get out, that leaves all sorts of warlords fighting for control of what remains. Let’s be clear, “Syria” as a state no longer even exists.
But the bulk of civilian deaths are at his hands, and they won’t stop until he’s gone.
We can’t rule out the possibility the Trump may do something competently on occasion. The broken clock scenario.
Setting aside the rank hypocrisy of the US bombing another country due to the ‘death of innocent children’:
-If it’s just a one-time deal to let Syria know that we’ll punch them if they’re bad, maybe it works. The rules of behavior in the Middle East are low, and they may actually read this message.
-Remember if this was W, they’d simply plan a massive invasion, with the final objective being Tehran.
-I agreed with Obama’s general handling of the situation. HE asked for permission from Congress to do the same, Congress said no. But the use of military force is a complete charade, the Congress expects the Executive to take action without their involvement. If it works out, they will support it, if it doesn’t work out, they will turn on it. No profile in leadership expected. Obama didn’t really want to bomb and he forced Congress’s hand. My sense is that a lot of them were angry about this – People like Lindsay McCain.
-If Trump stops right now and does nothing more, maybe this doesn’t trigger something worse. We will see about this last point.
From all indications it was just military theater, with many neocons screaming “Trump became President toooniiiiIIIIGHT!!”
Sadly we have to lump HRC in that calculus. Disappointing.
This may lead to a dead cat bounce in the polls, but a lot of alt-righties/Rand Paulites/Glenn Greenwalds are having a sad. They’ll probably get over it. I predict a +4-6 rise in polls for our “WAR PRESIDENT, JAVANKA.”
The advantages of this strike is it lets everyone beat their chests at home. Putin, Trump, Assad, Iran, ISIL, Hezbollah, Israel, you can hear the grunting and snorting and knuckle-dragging from here.
Puts the US liberals and anti-Trump FP wing off-balance and off-message before recess, in which images of US ships firing cruise missiles is put on permanent 24/7 autoplay on all cable news. Bob Woodward starts writing “The Clarion Call of Trump” and making airplane noises as he spoon-feeds quotable answers into the President. Mike Pence and Steve Bannon whip the AHCA through Congress since “we’re at war, QED.” Trump calls UN summit of Security Council, Putin tells Assad to destroy some Sarin, and is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize while sanctions are lifted.
/bitter sarcastic humor
Speaking of theater, note the presence of Ivanka at the press conference.
Nothing like presiding over the spilling of Muslim blood to sanctify oneself as a “serious” foreign policy voice.
But we have to protect the poor innocent Muslim children that we’re bombing and denying humanitarian aid. What kind of monster are you? Don’t images of dead children mean anything to you? Don’t you care anything about their SUFFERING?
/not joking wish I was joking ohgodohgod
Do you actually know these kids’ religious affiliation? There are many Christians still in Syria.
The overarching question:
How does Russia react?
AG
You didn’t tell us what to “bet on.”
Snark is stupid, JO. Especially when thousands and thousands of peoples’ lives are at stake. Maybe millions. Maybe even more. Maybe even yours.
But if you really want to know where to place your bets, go here:
Trump’s Answer to the Russiagate Attacks? SMACK SYRIA!!! (And Russia, too.)
That lays out the early odds pretty well.
Trump’s still an underdog to the PermaGov, but he just hit a home run…at ;least in terms of media coverage. It’s hard to impeach a war president.
Watch. The media will sell this action.
They’ll have to.
it’s WAR!!!
The greatest clickbait of all.
AG
P.S. The statement “Evidence that the Assad regime did what we’re accusing them of doing” followed by the words “I don’t doubt it” is frightening, Booman. Just who is going to present this “evidence,” and are they in any way connected with the people who presented the “evidence” of WMDs in Iraq as an excuse to go to war there?
Those are two rhetorical questions, of course. U.S. Intelligence is going to present the evidence, and they are the same people who hornswoggled us into Bush II’s catastrophe.
And you “don’t doubt it!!!???”
Wow!!!
This is deja vue all over again.
Twice!!!
#1-The runup to the Iraq War
and
#2- I also seem to remember something about the impossibility of “proving” anything about the last chemical attacks in Syria.
Too many possible suspects.
Do you remember that?
Please.
Here we go again…
AG
Is Trump listening to the intelligence community yet or did he take the story from the telly?
Does the accuracy of the story matter if McMaster and Mattis want to strike Syria?
Yes, here we go again but this time Syria is under formal review by the Organization for Prohibition of Chemical Weapons which automatically has the responsibility to investigate Syria’s compliance based on Syria being a signatory. That investigation might document “too many suspects” but that in itself gets the Assad government off the hook of being the prime suspect. Asking “Qui bono?” does not point to Syria, which has momentum toward reestablishing authority over its own territory and is ready to go to another conference on the future of Syria.
First the donald talked to the Sunni Sisi of Egypt. Then the Sunni King of Jordan and then we get American bombing of Alawite (Shia) President Assad. Now we are all teed up to blame any terror attack here on Iran. The neocons will be dancing in the streets.
Precisely.
AG
The bigger question than how does Putin react is how does China react. Doing this while Xi was at Merde a Lago is a monumental diplomatic insult. It is treating China like it is insignificant. That is likely to have more and worse repercussions than souring the romance with Putin.
Well, no, the bigger question is actually how will Russia react, whether in Syria against the US, or elsewhere in the region. Other than Syria/Assad, Russia is the party most directly affected adversely by this attack. US-Russia relations — which were already seriously heading south — take a major hit. And both sides need to cooperate, at least in a basic way, wrt their military operations in Syria, otherwise unfortunate incidents are highly likely to occur, and likely to escalate dramatically from there.
And so now, with one unproven CW “attack” by Assad on the books, what will the Donald do when the next unproven CW attack happens? The scale of military response would have to be greater, far more probably.
Meanwhile ISIS/AQ are popping open the champagne (out of sight of White Helmets cameras) as Assad’s forces are hit by us. What looked like a constant retreat from the battlefield for the Islamist forces now gives them hope to retake territory lost.
Great job, US.
Did Trump consult with Russia (which then consulted with its client Syria) in time for Syria to move aircraft from the airbase? That will be the point on which the US-Russia relations turn. Or was the surprise for Russia too.
The Saudis, Turkey, and Israel are also popping the champagne cork. And McCain and Graham might have a bit of a celebratory hangover this morning.
I don’t know if Russia has confirmed it was informed prior, but I haven’t seen any reports from them that they weren’t given a heads up. Russians are angry with or w/o prior notice, and for good reason. They too see the same movie playing out: a) use MSM to widely report unproven allegations, b) attack militarily, c) investigate quietly later, maybe.
One question is whether Russians took that heads up to also inform the Syrians. There were no Russian casualties reported, but 6 Syrian military killed. Or perhaps Russians did inform their clients but the latter didn’t have time to completely remove all personnel, who might have been busy working to limit airbase/military equipment damage. As I recall reading, there were also destroyed planes at the airfield.
Story on CNN this morning saying they had a hour heads up. Also, it seems the Russians have opted out of future notifications, kinda like saying take your best shot Donald but careful what you hit.
As long as the donald leaves the Russian port/base along things are all good. That base is like Gitmo in Cuba…Russia will never cede control of that base.
There appears to be strong evidence that people were killed or injured by chemical agents. Assad claims that his army accidentally bombarded a jihadist chemical weapons depot.
Wondering here what would constitute for you proof of a chemical weapons attack.
Which was also confirmed bullshit:
‘The dead were wherever you looked’: inside Syrian town after gas attack
War crime denial ain’t a good look, but you know, it serves the overarching narrative. And we must not disrupt that.
The Grey Lady quotes anonymous aides boasting that the meeting that led to Trump ordering this was of “considerable length”. (Which, by Trump standards, would be anything over 10 minutes.)
Attention span! So presidential!
Most commentary outside the war-drumming Wall Street media are reporting that the gas attack was a jihadi false flag to draw US intervention, a jihadi goal since the beginning of the war to topple Assad.
The situation in theater is that DAESH/ISIS/ISIL is not yet eliminated and has taken up positions in Idlib province. Turkey’s strategy relative to the Kurds has slowed that operation in the east — Mosul and Raqqa. And there is another meeting coming up in Brussels to talk about the future of Syria. Tell me how it makes sense for Assad to use chemical weapons and from where he got them in the midst of war.
From the US strategic perspective, turning Assad into a second front in the region is a distraction from the stated goal of destroying DAESH/ISIS/ISIL.
There are, I think, multiple personal and institutional motives going on. Trump personally (the only way he himself thinks) wants to present a drama to Xi Jinping before talking about North Korea–a drama of toughness and brutality.
The military and some of the national security strategic community want to finally get their wish to topple Assad by overwhelming force that allows a two-front war in the region.
No doubt there are some in the military who want to see what Russian S-300 and other air defense missiles can do to a massive cruise missile strike and by announcing the attack tried to force a close to in-real-combat test. The question we should start asking is “For what future purpose?”
Trump might not have the understanding, but the staff he has assembled does have some understanding of strategy, are eager to try the ideas they believe have been sidelined for a decade, and see themselves as not risk-averse.
The nationalists in his inner circle are extreme unilateralists.
There is enough method in this madness to wonder where US policy is going and to think that it might be in a very dangerous direction.
Will a massive preannounced or surprise strike to end North Korea’s strategic missile warfare capabilities in the same style that Israel carried out Operation Opera on Iraq in the offing? Is that the implicit message to Xi Jinping or is that going to be the reality before the Chinese leader leaves Mar-a-Lago? And what will be the consequences of that?
Or the future direction of sizing up the air defense capabilities of essentially Chinese designed air defense as modified by the North Koreans?
Notice that these are all short of the worst case scenario that the US military capabilities are capable of — on paper.
Reports say that 59 missiles struck the airfield. Like the math with the 19 9/11 hijackers, that prompts asking what happened to the 60th cruise missile? Did Syrian or Russian air defense in Syria or Tartus bring it down? Was there a malfunction? Or did the US just launch a peculiar number of cruise missiles?
The President doesn’t grasp what he’s done here, but McMaster, Mattis, and others in the inner circle do. Which is more dangerous?
It doesn’t make sense — not that that obvious logic is being allowed to be heard much in our MSM. Govt and Russian forces had been dealing serious blows to the Islamist rebels in recent months; they had the upper hand finally. So Assad decides it would be a great time to use CW to attack a small village of civilians? Laughable. And the pro-Pentagon/IC voices explanations for this illogic have so far been equally laughable.
I’ve heard that airfield where Assad allegedly kept leftover CW is easily accessible by UN inspectors. Makes no sense to keep them there, subject to easy exposure by UN. I very much doubt this was what happened. Still seems more logical that this was a false flag CW attack by Islamist forces, to get the US to respond militarily against Assad, whose military forces were dealing major setbacks to the Islamist rebels.
As to Donald’s motives: 1) show the Pentagon/IC he’s not really Putin’s puppet and that he can play ball with them (in this limited sense, the still unsubstantiated Russiagate media hysteria appears to have been a propaganda success story, producing an outcome totally predictable); 2) show folks at home he’s no weak sister like the indecisive Obama; 3) get some warmaking going in order to distract from Donald’s domestic political problems and badly dipping poll numbers.
Re cruise missile count, I understand Syria govt reporting fewer than 30 hit the airfield target. Presumably lots of expensive duds or destroyed in flight bec off target.
This raid was also to take eyes off the terrible jobs report. 98,000 new jobs for March. Obama was averaging 200,000 a month. When the donald issued a job freeze, terminated all grants as of 1/17, purge Obama appointees and not replace them…you loose jobs…private sector and government jobs.
It might not be about the US at all or making sense in bringing the civil war to an end. It would make sense as a move to drive an even bigger wedge between various EU member states over what to do about the refugee crisis, however. This may have been a favor by Syria to Russia for some other objective.
It is more than a little important to know for certain if Assad fired off those chemical weapons. There was a 2013 agreement that they were off limits. An attack presumes we have proof Assad did it. Our attack now puts us at odds with an opposing alliance who may have different ideas about how this plays out.
It is not enough that our military establishment, McCain and Graham are joining in the celebration and all blaming Assad.
Ian Bremmer (I think) said Trump was not an isolationist, he was a unilateralist, and in time we would learn the difference was significant.
Apoarently the “war drumming” media you cite include the BBC, the Guardian, Le Monde and other French language sites I have perused.
A few more examples of “war drumming” media: Toronto Globe and Mail, The Independent (UK), and Deutsche Welle.
Comment dit-on ‘deep state’ en français?”
Pressure should now be brought to bear for the US to accept refugees. You can’t talk about the “precious babies” being killed as the justification for a strike, on the one hand, and prevent them from seeking sanctuary on the other.
Sure we can talk about these things simultaneously. And we will, the biggest and most powerful “we” being the President. Hell, he’ll use this incident to deepen his justification for hating on immigrants. It will make little moral and practical sense, but who’s going to stop him? At some point, the Judiciary will lose its ability and/or appetite to push back on anti-immigrant policies. And Congress will remain cowardly on the issue.
I’ll enthusiastically join you in pushing for a broader acceptance of immigrants, but I don’t see the plan to win here outside of hoping a few judges help us get it done.
Well, ending the week with (60) big bangs. Quite a puzzler, and one that seems to upend the hitherto presumed landscape.
Hard to fathom the thinking of the Assad regime in authorizing a chemical weapon attack during a clear trend of victories over the Sunni rebels, courtesy the Russian military. Add in that this provocative attack came days (hours?) after Rexxon had (predictably) burped out that the Obama “Assad Must Go” line was kaput under Trumper. Was the Russian effort to control Assad’s CW a charade? What was the level of US consultation with the Syrians and Russians to determine the facts of the gas attack? How was Russia bamboozled into thinking Assad’s chemical weapons were under strict control?
One would have thought in such circumstances that a Trumper NSC would have bent over backwards to conclude that this was a staged attack by rebels in order to divide the overwhelming constellation of Assad/Putin/Trumper that seemed to be forming. But instead the US IC and military came to the abrupt conclusion that Assad was irrefutably responsible, and the equally abrupt conclusion that an enormous strike had to be undertaken immediately, during a state visit by China, no less!
Also hard to imagine that the Trumpers thought much damage could really be done despite the massive firepower deployed if they felt constrained to warn the Russian military of the impending strike, as obviously the Russian generals are going to immediately tell their Syrian ally/client to get the assets the hell out of there.
One can only conclude the generals that litter the Trumper admin are the real players, and that what they say goes. That they want to get us into a direct conflict with the Russian military is perplexing, but they are generals above all and celebrate the ethic of violence, as of course does Der Trumper and his supporters, for all their phony bleatings of nonintervention. One can’t really be a nationalist authoritarian without being an interventionist.
Not sure what the legal basis is for this strike, but that’s an afterthought anyway. Trump has massively increased strikes in Yemen as well. In any event, the days of Obaman nonintervention are over. Watching the US Congress react to the reality that the reckless and unthinking Trumper has the ability to loose off 100 cruise missiles in between holes of golf will be somewhat comic…..
Assad is just enamored of terror attacks on civilians. He loves bombing hospital, civilian groups, and, when he could get away with it, chemical attacks. He’s done all this extensively throughout the war. It’s pretty obvious to us it’s counterproductive but either he doesn’t get that or he gets off doing this kind of war crime.
Assad stopped chemical attacks when Obama threatened to bomb him. Trump’s statement last week sounded like that threat was gone, so Assad returned to what is apparently, horrifically, his first love – gratuitous terror attacks on civilians. Quite typically for him, this was a double atrocity – first the sarin attack, and then bombing the hospital.
Trump’s attack was a joke, of course, as you’d expect. Nothing like informing your target before bombing them. Assad’s sensible response would be to continue his preposterous denials (allowing him to not have to officially give in) but refrain from this particular atrocity in the future. We’ll see if the political/military benefit from restraint is enough to stop him from getting his jollies.
I am furious and sickened.
I don’t trust this President or his crew at all. Secretary of State EXXON and Secretary of Defense Mad Dog will not be the steady, moderate hands to prevent counterproductive actions moving forward; what a stupid damn expectation that is. And fuck the fucking motherfucking assholes who spent time here and elsewhere during the general election campaign claiming that Trump would be the peace candidate. Motherfucking assholes, fools, haters and dupes. Suckered by the con man. Hope you’re proud, so proud.
The fact that the President has significant space to conduct unilateral foreign and military policy is slamming down on me like a ton of bricks right now. There’ll be insufficient checks and balances on Trump from Congress, the international community and the media to prevent him from escalating in ways which will cause blowback, which he will attempt to use to move his domestic agenda and to create broad domestic oppressions.
Contrast what is happening and will happen moving forward with the policies President Obama executed. All who have been so very busy trying to put across the claim that President Obama was a violent warmonger are about to be re-reminded yet again that others are much better exemplars of that pejorative.
Obama was improving the situation in the ME. Now in one act, Trump may have blown it all up while at the same time accusing Obama of gross misconduct. We have to make this motherfucker prove Assad fired the missiles and before he advances any further what his end game is. Surely it cannot be to install a Sunni regime beholding to the Saudis.
http://theintercept.com/2017/04/07/the-spoils-of-war-trump-lavished-with-media-and-bipartisan-praise
-for-bombing-syria/
I totally agree that the cowardice and fakery of Congress and the compliance of the media should be pointed out, but I’m ruefully amused that Glenn is desperately seeking equivalency between Obama and Trump. Greenwald’s about to be made to look more ridiculous than he already is. What a corrosive rhetorician he often is.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/850017131710353410
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Attacks on George HW Bush as a “wimp” caused him to invade Panama. Hope attacks on Trump as Putin puppet don’t cause him to attack Syria.
9:07 AM – 6 Apr 2017
OTOH, I agree with Glenn that it’s time to pay close attention to King’s 4-4-67 speech again. We could add President Eisenhower’s farewell speech for some broader ideological perspective.
Welcome to the world the National Security Act of 1947 created. When nuclear weapons created fear of “imminent attack”, Congress forced the decision of war on the President and Truman ran with it. After 9/11, the threat of imminent attack gave Congress the power to give the President unilateral power over life and death of foreigners and Americans, and Bush, Obama, and Trump have run with it. The problem is institutional power and the advisers within the institutions who sense and understand how that power can be used to gain more power. We now have mostly destroyed our system of checks and balances (at least in foreign relations, and likely soon in the Congress) in the name of national security.
On Syria, Obama learned from the mess that Libya turned into and the lesson he learned was that Hillary Clinton had it wrong. Obama had little foreign policy or national security experience before becoming President; he depended on his appointees to be straight with him and not game the system; he punished those who were insubordinate to the office of the President. He seemed not to develop an independent foreign and national security policy until his second term when he could contrast the advice of his first term (and its results) with the advice of his second term. But he was much to cautious when he had openings for breakthroughs like the supervision of Syria relinquishing its chemical weapons or the agreement with Iran. That those were the right things to do was evidenced by the vitriol that the GOP expended trying to prevent them and undo them.
As commanders-in-chief, Presidents must be violent warmongers or be thought weak; that is domestic politics. The expansion of the use of drones just to continue warmaking in new ways without risking US lives has the advantage of not risking US lives (except it seems in the creation of PTSD). It has the disadvantages of: (1) extending warmaking further into the gray area of secrecy in which it cannot be publicly accountable and (2) lowering the cost of entry into the warmaking game in a competitive position (nuclear weapons at least do not have this defect). For every critic who considered Obama a violent warmonger, there were three who considered him weak (just because he wore the D label).
Trump is dangerous primarily because he does not have a consistent public position but is consistently erratic and of a know-nothing bent. And we don’t know which adviser he’s listening to at the moment, but we do know now that that advice is bounced off family, particularly Ivanka and Jared Kushner. In this respect, he is a lot like Reagan without the sunny, optimistic personality.
It is only the restoration of Congressional power that can check the executive as an institution and the independence of the courts that can make those checks and balances stick. In the name of national security, all of that has been stripped out in the last 70 years. And along with it democratic governance and respect for human rights abroad and at home.
I have said this here before, but I talked at length to her chief foreign policy advisor Jake Sullivan.
The first time was in small room full of Democrats in NH that included two former State Party Chairs. One of those chairs blasted Sullivan for Clinton’s embrace of the unilateral imposition of a no fly zone in Syria.
This was in November 2015. I told Sullivan I thought we were sliding to war in Syria. He said he thought Kerry would get a negotiated settlement. But he was not reassuring.
On Syria Clinton has so wrong it is hard to know where to begin.
I miss Obama.
I mean I REALLY miss him.
Obama was the rare political figure who had some sense of the medium and long term in foreign affairs. He was far from perfect: but in things like this I trusted his judgement.
I don’t trust Trump, and I don’t really trust a lot of the reaction from Democrats this morning.
agree. and everyone’s acting like he’s suddenly “presidential” [saw something yesterday afternoon stating we should expect a T’s Reichstag Fire immanently] this caution was retweeted by David Corn.
Great post. Thank you.
you’re welcome. regularly check also Carne Ross; thought ppl here, esp mino, might like the retweet from today on the so-called sharing economy
Thanks.
did you see the NYTimes article this week on how Uber manipulates the drivers? creepy.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/02/technology/uber-drivers-psychological-tricks.html?_r=
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Yeah, I did. Sheesh.
Willingness to kill people is Presidential. It’s the collaboration in guilt required to be a credible commander of the military.
Until they make the “tough decision”, politicians are distrusted by the military. Just like the first firing a manager does establishes his credibility with the bosses up the chain.
Or the first participation in a capital murder case in a Prosecutor’s office.
I have personal experience with that one.
http://theintercept.com/2017/04/07/the-spoils-of-war-trump-lavished-with-media-and-bipartisan-praise
-for-bombing-syria/
Hey, excellent example of a strawman argument. Would be great to use it in a freshman composition class.
then yeah.
I don’t see how bombing an empty airbase is going to accomplish much of anything, other than goose Trumps dismal poll numbers for a bit. Sure, it puts Assad “on notice”, but I’m guessing that he’s a smart enough guy to figure out that unless we are willing to put Russian lives at risk, any attack on him isn’t going to very significant militarily.
Not that a response to a chemical weapons attack isn’t warranted, but the destruction by explosive robot scenario that has become all too popular by our presidents tends to end up not as effective as the reporting done with breathless glee from our war media would like you to believe. At best we put some holes in an easy to repair runway and destroyed a few ancient aircraft that couldn’t take off to flee to begin with due to lack of spare parts… Hell, even Exxon Rex admitted that this attack doesn’t change anything in Syria.
And in the end, we have the same quandary that we have no real answers for- what the hell is the end game in Syria and how do we accomplish it? The whole middle east is a giant box of complexity and unintended consequences that is way way beyond that ability of a Trump administration to even grasp, let alone deal with effectively. What Trump, and his ilk do understand however, is blowing shit up- both literally and metaphorically. That is what they do, that is what they will continue to do, both domestically and internationally.
There is no frigging end game. That’s why Obama walked back from the brink.
No, we go forward pretending that the idiotic borders drawn up by Britain and France–the mandatory powers in the region after WW1–are meaningful and define actual nation states.
The world is full of other outrages that Trump ignores: South Sudan and Yemen are just two nearby examples.
Not nation states in the turn of the 20th century ethnic sense. Like the US itself (and Russia and even China), they are geographical containers for multicultural societies. And like the US, those multiple cultures are often in conflict and riven by politics and religion and political religion and religious politics.
Trump has ignored South Sudan so far but not Yemen. His first attack was on Yemen.
To talk of outrages is to confuse Trump’s sentimental message with humanitarian militarism or responsibility to protect foreign policy positions. Trump was just exploiting all the emotional stops in his speech Thursday night. Pointedly, most reports remarked on how closely he kept to the teleprompter script. He is disciplined enough to know when to obey his handlers.
There is definitely no end game as long as outside nations either from the region (Turkey, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Israel) or outside the region (US, UK, France, Russia) stir the pot.
I hate to say it, but this whole CW attack/need to punish Assad/prove Trump is not a Russian stooge stunt is/was too easy to predict. (And yes, “stunt” is never a good word to use when innocent people are being killed.)
I fear this will go down as one of many of Trump’s Reichstag fires — events that help him change the narrative and consolidate his power. Rather than one big fire, we will have many (maybe dozens) of these.
Right now we have a lot of conflicting stories about who was responsible for the CW attack. Trump says it was Assad, while Russia says it was rebels.
The question I ask is: who benefits most from this series of events? The gas attack was not a military action in the traditional sense (civilian casualties, not military casualties), so why was it done?
So who benefits most? As I sit here today, the answer unquestionably is Trump.
I cannot believe that I now live a world where I need to go get fitted for a tin-foil hat . . . . .
Looked at some foreign press: Xinhua, South China Morning Post, Asia Times.
Consensus is that Xi will not let Syria attack at dinner get in the way of establishing an improved means of government-to-government consultation of the sort started by Obama and Hu Jin Tao. This involved meetings of US and Chinese counterparts for extensive discussions from their functional roles – Sec of Ag with Chinese Ag minister, Sec Treasury with Chinese Finance Minister, and so on.
Most interpreted Chinese take on North Korea as Chinese involvement as mediator is necessary to avoid Trump’s unilateral action that damages China’s stability on its border.
Snark was about absence of promised Big Macs.
Several had Russian reporting of a Medvedev statement saying that Russia had troops at the airfield that was struck, which placed the US and Russia one-step away from direct conflict.
In other sources, the neoconservative think tanks like CSIS hailed the attack as brilliant in the context of the Xi Jinping visit. Other articles noted that Russia did not attempt to use its S-300 or S-400 air defense missile systems.
Why spend many millions of dollars on shooting down missiles aimed at an airbase you’ve had advance warning was going to be show attacked with all the real infrastructure “missed” on purpose?