One of the interesting things to look for as our country’s politics enter a new phase of more rapid realignment is cases where this messes with the assumptions that were made when our congressional districts were gerrymandered after the last census. The Republicans did so well in the 2010 midterms that they had a huge national advantage when it came time to redraw districts, but Illinois was a rare exception where the Democrats were able to use gerrymandering to the max to carve out a few extra seats.
And then a funny thing happened:
Located in greater Chicago’s western exurbs, Democrats had drawn Illinois’ 14th District to quarantine hostile Republican voters, but after the well-educated district swung from 54-44 Romney to just 49-45 Trump, GOP Rep. Randy Hultgren could be targeted in 2018.
This is the flip side or positive aspect of the change in voting patterns that cost Hillary Clinton the election. Even as she hemorrhaged votes in small towns and rural regions, Trump lost almost as many votes in the suburbs (and suburbanizing exurbs). And it’s not just that these areas are getting younger and more ethnically diverse. Trumpism doesn’t sell well even with tax-averse white professional Romney Republicans, let alone with sophisticated college-educated women who may have been raised to see the Republican Party as a signifier of their status. There’s nothing high class about that Access Hollywood tape.
Of course, there’s a certain risk of perversion of purpose if the party of the underprivileged and dispossessed becomes reliant on the three-car garage set for their votes, and that’s a likely side effect of a realignment like this. Votes are always welcome, of course, but chasing after these voters could come with an opportunity cost if it prevents the Democrats from realizing that their power is eroding badly in this trade. And, of course, there’s the moral element to consider, which is that a left that’s worth its name doesn’t leave people behind.
Winning districts like Iliinois’ 14th could be the straightest and shortest line to winning back control of the House of Representatives. It’s not exactly a low-hanging fruit, but you can reach it with a step-ladder. The risk is that investing in that step-ladder means focusing on messages and making appeals to certain kind of voters. Depending on how that is done, it might actually accelerate the party’s erosion among the white working class, which is the exact trade that has been costing the Democrats control of state legislatures and losing them governors races and Senate seats that they should control. It’s also what made Trump a winner despite losing the popular vote.
That doesn’t mean that the strategy doesn’t make sense, but it is perhaps more alluring than wise. It will only work out well if it doesn’t catalyze a swifter realignment that has so far been most unfavorable to the left.
In other words, the Democrats shouldn’t allow so much of their attention to be diverted into winning formerly safe Republican suburban seats that they don’t take seriously enough the hard work they need to do to stop their bleeding in small towns and rural/exurban areas.
A lot of the debate right now is stuck on a circular argument that on one side says that going after working class voters necessarily means selling out more reliable Democrats on women’s rights, gay rights and civil rights, and on the other side insists that there is no choice.
One thing that is lost is the idea that a party that becomes anchored on the support of affluent professionals will come to reflect their interests and begin to resist the demands of the economically pressed. This realignment may feel good in some respects. For example, it’s nice to allow all the latter day Jim Crow Democrats to find a new political home that doesn’t contaminate the rest of us. If they’re not on board with gay rights and they want to stop immigration by nonwhite people and they’re suspicious of Muslims and they’re resistant to sensible gun violence control and they’re not reliable supporters of women’s reproductive freedom, and they’re more interested in fracking jobs than climate change then maybe they don’t belong in the Democratic Party. Even asking for their votes can seem like a betrayal of principle. But it’s also a certain kind of betrayal to tell whole regions of the country that there is not going to be any left wing to represent their interests against the monopolists who have hollowed out their communities and destroyed virtually all entrepreneurial opportunity. The opioid epidemic may have reached the white professional classes in the suburbs now, but its been destroying these rural communities ever since Oxy-Contin hit the market in the 1990s.
When the left leaves people behind and does a poor job of representing them, the result is riots in our cities and fascism in the heartland. The choice isn’t between purity and cynicism. It’s not about avoiding selling certain people out, and it shouldn’t be about who to sell out. For both moral and practical reasons, the left needs to represent people in every community, and they need to do it on terms that make sense and work for each community.
Also, here’s some cool trivia related to the emerging race in the 14th District of Illinois:
High school teacher and Army veteran Victor Swanson recently became the first Democrat to jump into the race, although it’s unclear if the first-time candidate has the skills and connections needed for such an uphill race. At the very least, Swanson might be able to get some fundraising help thanks to his famous brother Andy Richter, a comedian and actor who is best known for his longtime collaborations with late-night TV host Conan O’Brien.
I wish Andy Richter’s brother success, but win or lose, that contest is kind of beside the point.
If there is anything to be learned from Trump’s win, it is the following:
In national U.S. contests, a good candidate beats a bad candidate. (“Good”meaning media-talented, not morally correct.)
This has been true ever since the JFK/Nixon election.
Biden could have beaten Trump.
Sanders too.
But the centrist DNC…essentially owned and operated by the Clintons…chose an “unpleasant” candidate.
Unpleasant in a media sense.
Trump was unpleasant, too, but is a flashy, media-savvy way. He chose to play the villain in a kayfabe match.
They were both lying through their teeth, but Trump was by far the better liar.
The DNC made the mistake of believing the polls that they had already bought.
Believing that until the last moments of the campaign, they sat on their overprivileged asses congratulating themselves until it was too damned late.
Step #1-They chose a bad candidate.
Step #2-They didn’t even try to mobilize the “deplorable” vote.
Step #3-They got their asses kicked.
It really is as simple as that.
Now…I ask you, Booman…what is arguably different about the makeup of the real power centers of the DNC from what they were when they hustled Bernie Sanders out of contention? You’re more of an insider in these things. What’s/who’s up that shows real promise?
If the Israel-first Senator from Exxon-Mobil Chuck Schumer (Who…by the way…I believe would run the exactly same policy game as Bret Stephens and the NYT if it was politically expedient to do so.), the rapidly-leaning-towards-confused-old-age Nancy Pelosi and all of the various Clinton-bots are still in backstage positions of power…what is going to change beside the cosmetics?
I really want to know.
Trotting out Bernie Sanders isn’t going to do it.
Neither is not supporting Elizabeth Warren.
Who’s next up to bat?
Provided that Trump doesn’t self-implode before 2020…what Democratic politician under the age of 72 or so will have the personal power…the charisma, negative or positive…to beat him?
Give me some good news.
Please.
Later…
AG
I have a much deeper analysis of this that doesn’t work as a blog format post, but the key here is to look beyond the specifics of the 2016 race and focus on the trend line. It’s the trend line that is troubling because it indicates that this was process that proceeded in fits and starts over about twenty years, really getting started with Gore/Lieberman.
The problem with rehashing Clinton vs. Sanders is that it can give false hope that the problem was the candidate, when that really isn’t the problem. If it were just a matter of subbing Sanders for Clinton or even a more charismatic Democrat for a famously off-putting one, then these issues might solve themselves with little effort.
Drum had a decent read on the economic problem which remains even if you could make the social issues go away for Obama-Trump switchers.
“What policy would plausibly and directly impact the likelihood of these “left behind” folks getting good, steady jobs again?
If it takes more than a sentence or so to explain, it’s no good. If it’s couched in liberalese, it’s no good. If it’s not viscerally plausible, it’s no good. If it’s about “retraining,” it’s no good. If it’s gobbledegook about the changing world, it’s no good. If it’s not directly focused on getting a good job, it’s no good.”
Thats assuming the rich people in the party are willing to ackniwledge this is a problem that should be solved.
From an email from the Dem Chair of Mahoning County in Ohio, May 2016 (which would would see a 25 point shift from 2012 to 2016)
http://link.washingtonpost.com/view/54c176b13b35d07b198d96584vg3a.8j8y/3c37aa8e
I do get the message that a hell of a lot of people are attached to the place they were born and raised, where their parents and grandparents were born and raised and so on. But when I read about “policies that will incentivize companies to repatriate manufacturing jobs”, the needle on my bullshit meter goes off-scale. This is the bluster that won the election for Trump, and guess what? There are no such policies, there are just Trump’s threats and theatrics. For every job he supposedly saved at a manufacturing plant somewhere by way of threats, two more disappeared.
Promoting infrastructure is great as long as it isn’t a giveaway to the wealthy and the connected and another underhanded way to privatize the commonwealth.
Trump told these folks “ponies for everyone”, and they believed him. He also told them, “and no ponies for those people“, and that got the biggest applause of all.
Somehow the Democrats have to talk about economic populism and fairness in a way that respects people’s intelligence and doesn’t pander to their basest instincts.
That was exactly my point with my comment. Those small towns aren’t coming back, they were buoyed by large farm worker populations that went away with automation. Then the few lucky towns with manufacturing lost out to technology plus globalization. Most of it from technology.
If you look at manufacturing in the US, we still manufacture a lot of products here, it just takes far fewer people to do so which means a lot fewer jobs even needed in that sector.
Infrastructure sounds nice but most of those job too will be in or around big cities, there’s just not a lot of infrastructure in rural areas to build or maintain.
At some point, people are going to have to move closer to cities if they want jobs. It sucks to have to move from your ancestral home but if they wait too long no one will buy their home which would be far worse.
Maybe a government program can be relocation assistance, buy homes and help people relocate closer to cities. That would actually be a program that might help. It could be an expensive one though.
Mahoning County isn’t rural.
The last two comments, which I sympathize with, explain why the Democratic Party has less power now than it has in 80 years.
If all we have to say to people in these communities is it sucks to be you but go move, I can’t imagine why we think they will ever vote for us.
It also illustrates something Frank points to in his latest book.
that’s a nice sentiment but I obviously was referring mainly to the rural districts
Unless we’re arguing to basically send them checks what’s the solution? Manufacturing jobs aren’t coming back and it’s not because they went overseas because they don’t exist anymore because of technology.
There is only so much infrastructure work out there outside of the cities, suburbs & “exurbs”
The less rural districts we can obviously do more infrastructure but again manufacturing isn’t coming back so there’s a limit to the amount of jobs out there.
About 1 million DID go overseas, btw.
At slave labor pay rates in sweatshop conditions. Do we want to bring that back here? And would the people so embittered at job loss be willing to accept that?
I’m not sure it’s a problem that can be solved, which is a bigger problem.
One thing that is lost is the idea that a party that becomes anchored on the support of affluent professionals will come to reflect their interests and begin to resist the demands of the economically pressed.
One could say this has been happening for a while now.
So, let’s agree that it’s been going on for a while now, and let’s also stipulate that its already had negative consequences for people on the bottom of the economic scale in all areas of the country.
As I said, if the Left proves ineffective in our cities, it produces riots. In our rural areas, it produces support for fascistic policies and politicians.
The idea that you protect minorities best by accelerating that kind of realignment seems to be lacking in a fuller appreciation of all the factors in play.
Define “affluent”.
I know, from my High School class, lawyers, doctors, real estate brokers, engineers, musicians and blue-collar workers. Their economic interests don’t diverge. If they were multi-millionaires they would diverge, but many white collar professionals are under just as much pressure as blue-collar workers.
Are you talking about the 1%? Are you saying that the (D) party should be the party of the nonworking poor and the 1% limousine liberals? If so, don’t worry. That’s what’s happened. Everyone in between is going (R). For economics. It’s a pied-piper, but they feel there is no choice. I read that even people with incomes above the median are pressed to the wall on debt and skip meals to save money. They look to the Democrats and they tell them, “Fuck You! You are privileged.” Then they look to the Republicans and they tell them “Less regulations and more tax cuts will solve everything!” Then they think “My taxes are pretty high. I could use the money from a tax cut. And if we had less regulations I could buy a cheaper car and a cheaper A/C.” So they vote (R) and the (D)’s shout “Racist! Misogynist!”, apparently trying to shame them back. I don’t think it’s going to work.
OK marduk & oogabooga. Get out your troll ratings!
If you insist.
True to the extent that the supremely wealthy have gobbled up most of the wealth, and the remainder has gone to those upper middle class people. But there is somewhat of a contradicting narrative here. Are Trump’s supporters poor and economically insecure, or merely insecure because of a loss of cultural status that they extend to economics? In truth, a significant portion of his core are the petite bourgeois. I have no interest in swaying them to anything.
For once I might agree with Arthur, at least a little. My sense is that policy isn’t much what these elections are about, but sincerity/authenticity. People skills. If there is too much trying to “figure out” what to say to any group of people, voters react as if the candidate is “staged” or “programmed.” I’d much rather see folks with conviction even if I don’t agree with them on some items, though they would have to align with some basic values I hold. I never minded Brian Schweitzer on guns because I thought he was smart, accomplished, and cared.
So let’s have candidates who not only show up everywhere, but who exude real humanity. People over politics.
It’s not about what to say. It’s about smashing monopolies until you can open a pharmacy or a hardware store or compete as a local restaurant or run a successful local bank.
We destroyed at that by not enforcing antitrust law for thirty-five years, and it needs to stop.
I am with you on this point – there comes a time when a party’s actions are so divorced from their words that people finally move on and become willing to explore other options – even mentally deranged options.
Since the 1980’s the democratic party has been very good about talking the talk, but on actual policies that help the bottom 50% of income earners, not so much. Sure, there have been some band-aids like the EITC, and extending unemployment, but most people do not want direct help from the government — they want to work hard, raise their families, and know as their last days draw near that their children and grandchildren will have even more opportunities. Opportunities have been disappearing for at least two generations.
If democrats cannot speak to that AND act on that (such as (as you stated) enforcing laws that are already on the books, like anti-trust), then the party will continue its decline.
Those small players aren’t coming back. They lost to economy of scale, not monopoly.
How about the pending merger of Dow & DuPont? That’s like merging Ford and GM. No economies of scale, just monopoly power. What use is it to the general public to have an inefficient local merchant selling goods whose wholesale price is set by a monopolist?
I often hear complaints about Walmart driving local merchants out of business. I don’t hear about predatory pricing or other abuses. I hear that their economy scale makes them more efficient. They may be the only game in town in rural areas, but is that any worse than a local general store being the only store in town?
In my area, I can go to Walmart, or Kmart, or Target, or Kohl’s or Kroger or Jewel or one of two smaller grocery chains. Walmart is a terrible employer. I know that. One of my grandsons is one of their part-time workers and on Medicaid. A local store with no health insurance would be no better. The answer isn’t smaller stores. The answer is unions. But Democrats don’t know unions until election time rolls around. After the election they kiss up to the Waltons and ignore the unions. Until they need some foot soldiers. Then they offer phony promises with the left hand and take the bosses money with the right hand.
Economy of scale is monopoly.
What do you think the purchasing power of Walgreen’s and Amazon and Wal-Mart and Applebee’s and Home Depot allows them to do to independent businesses?
Antitrust law, as it existed all the way up to the late 1970s, would never have allowed that kind of market concentration. Never.
And fighting that kind of economy is what united populists and progressives.
It is about both, unions and monopolies.
I agree with the idea of pushing antitrust regulation as a winner the the working class. How about some good old redistribution of income as well? There is no way that the wealthy elite should be able to offshore their income and get away with huge corporate bonuses. Change the tax laws!
Also, how about companies not treating their employees like replaceable cannon fodder. Put workers on the boards of every large company (like in Germany), give them decent health benefits and retirement, increase the minimum wage. If companies move jobs overseas as a result, tax the shit out of them.
I wish I could agree. But I just can’t find any authority that economy of scale, without more, is an unlawful monopoly. Can you explain why you think that, for example, Walmart’s ability to charge low prices violates anti-trust laws? My knowledge of antitrust law stems mainly from the course in antitrust that I took in law school, which I enjoyed tremendously, and keeping up from time to time through friends in the Antitrust Division of the DOJ. As I understand a restraint of trade, it requires conduct jointly undertaken by two or more independent actors that unfairly suppresses competition, leading to higher prices or other adverse consequences to consumers. I don’t see that here.
In the late 1970s, I worked at an electronics manufacturer that had three prices for most of the goods it sold, depending on the size of the purchase. The big box stores paid the lowest wholesale prices per unit. That’s obviously the key to the ability of K-Mart, Walmart etc. to charge lower prices and of course it is based on economy of scale. Do you think that practice constitutes an antitrust violation and if so, how?
My other caveat about using antitrust to bring back local businesses is that the Walmarts of the world are extremely popular in working class America. The low priced goods they offer effectively allow people in rural and small town American to enjoy a higher standard of living. I can’t see the Obama-to-Trump voters willingly paying more for goods just to be able to buy them from local merchants.
I hope you can explain what I am missing.
OK, so there’s been some (bad) stuff on the personal side lately that has me distracted, but for the first time ever I’m having trouble following a BooMan argument. I don’t get the point here or what you think should be done about whatever the point is. Sorry to be dense, but I don’t.
This sets up a conflict with progressive ideals but leaving the WWC behind is a loser in my view whether that is in rural or urban areas. We need to plot a path between the rocks here and Warren is not helping. Maybe there is no way through. I have wondered if there are non voters that we could attract. I suspect a lot of lower working class simply do not vote. Leave them and someone else may capture that vote.
Some of her bomb throwing is not helpful, but she understands what we need to do, and Sanders never did.
you obviously find something in her that I have not.
gotta go pick up my son from school, but check back here later and I’ll have posted a video to show what I’m talking about.
That was an excellent speech. I have this stray thought about inequality and impoverishment. Also, did I hear Trump say he was going to break up the banks?
A real shame that Dems have had control of the WH and the DoJ only 16 of the last 30 years. Maybe another sellout centrist Dem will finally tackle the problem …
A good speech that laid out the scope of the problem, but I did not hear her offer a solution for combatting economies of scale using antitrust law. She talked about enforcing antitrust law to prevent anticompetitive mergers and vertical integration, which I do not think are the factors keeping the Walmarts of the world alive.
Also, she did not talk about using antitrust law to bring back local businesses, or how antitrust laws could be used to make local businesses competitive with the big box stores.
I see it too, but Booman has to get in a gratuitous dig at Sanders. They’re different, sure, but the two most popular national politicians in the country and we have to decide which one is better than the other?
Let’s put aside one myth: that Bernie Sanders has no pull in the Democratic Party. He does, and so does Warren. And both of them backed Keith Ellison, if you see that as a litmus test.
http://nypost.com/2017/04/01/sanders-warren-push-anti-trump-agenda-at-raucous-rally/
It’s not gratuitous. It’s a clear distinction between Warren and Sanders. Sanders is not literate in anything other than redistribution, which is also the biggest drag on his appeal to the people we need to win over.
Working class folks aren’t all that impressed with free college because it mostly goes to other folks who either don’t need the help or don’t deserve it.
What they want is a fucking autonomy and self-respect, and not to be working the night shift at Wal-Mart when they used to have work they felt proud about.
Sorry, maybe it’s because I went to college for free, and so did practically all my classmates. I thought it was pretty good actually. So did Bernie. In fact it was the same college.
These people you’re talking about, I’m sure they’d rather have their kids take out a college loan and be in debt slavery the rest of their lives than go for free. Yeah that’s the ticket.
Eliz Warren the bomb thrower??? Laughable. Unless you mean a pol who occasionally tosses out a joke that lands with a thud.
Truth-teller to power, yes. But delivered in a soft-spoken way that even shushing librarians and mild-mannered mushy centrists like James Fallows would approve of.
On your second point, probably agree.
IL-14 was set up to really be a GOP stronghold, and even if Trump did worse there I have a hard time seeing any Democrat winning.
You’re right though we have to find a way to accept people who are with us on most things but maybe not everything. There are Democrats who are pro-life personally but still vote against abortion restrictions. So maybe there’s a way forward there, where their personal views don’t necessary match how they would vote. It may help them close the gap rhetorically as well.
100% Jim. And, as you know, a large part of that problem is that the face of the (D) party in IL isn’t Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren or even Barack Obama. It’s Mike Madigan, John Cullerton and Rahm Emanuel.
In the early days of Daily Kos – during the Bush Administration – he spoke of the need for “more and better Democrats.” First comes the more, then the better.
Winning the suburban districts works, if you can create an electoral alliance between well-off social and environmental moderates and progressive – usually minority -working class groups.
EVERY single governing majority in this country is a coalition. And every coalition is fractious and eventually collapses.
I’m not willing to be scared of this coalition for the purposes of purity of message. I have no desire to become the Labour Party.
The real split on the left is between people who want a vanguard party, and people who want a mass party.
Always has been. In country after country. For decade after decade.
We’re still fighting, a hundred and twenty years on. over whether M. Millerand should accept a ministerial portfolio in the Waldeck-Rousseau government.
I agree with every word written.
Is economic justice a core value of the party or not?
I am not sure for many it really is. Or perhaps more accurately it is an aspiration that many in the Party believe isn’t really achievable.
Thomas Frank has argued that the focus on education as response to inequality is itself a reflection of the professional class’s belief in the basic morality of free market results. I am rich because I studied in school, and therefore I have earned what I have.
Frank argues this is a, and perhaps THE fundamental problem with the Democratic Party.
I haven’t read his entire book, and I suspect I will disagree with much of it, but he has a point.
I come back to Barber’s speech at the convention. He expressed economic justice and social equality as the product of the same moral outlook. He was effective because when you heard him you intuitively understood and FELT the connection.
Without a message of economic justice, the Party has no heart. And without a heart the Party will be doomed to endless discussions about “messaging”.
Was he effective? The only reason there is a dem governor is because the GOP overreached with hating gays until it was bad for business. Then the legislature neutered the governor. The ‘repral’ was a sham and fizzled last I heard.
How much has Moral Mondays really achieved?
I don’t know. Tarheel would be able to say more. I don’t live in North Carolina, and I had never heard of him before he spoke at the Convention.
He moved me, and was one of the few that connected with everyone in the hall.
But your point is a good one: I don’t know how effective his message really is
“Even as she hemorrhaged votes in small towns and rural regions, Trump lost almost as many votes in the suburbs (and suburbanizing exurbs). And it’s not just that these areas are getting younger and more ethnically diverse. Trumpism doesn’t sell well even with tax-averse white professional Romney Republicans, let alone with sophisticated college-educated women who may have been raised to see the Republican Party as a signifier of their status. “
Isn’t this exactly what Schumer said last year? “”For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.”
Are we saying Schumer is incorrect?
When you pick up a few too few Republican moderates, and lose a few too many Democrats, you narrowly lose an election.
I for one have no problem with blowing up the party on the basis of vote shifts that wouldn’t fill a Big 10 Saturday’s worth of football stadia.
Exactly Davis.
It is not as though the Democrats don’t hold the House and the Senate.
Oh wait. We don’t.
And we don’t hold many governor’s offices, or many state legislatures.
In fact, the Party hasn’t had less power than before FDR.
But you are right: everything is fine.
90,000 votes and you’re complaining that President Clinton didn’t appoint Van Jones to head the EPA, or Shirley Sherrod to be Secretary of Agriculture.
Everything is fine. There are no other races that matter beside President.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
I still believe in principle that every Democrat should have a choice of Democrats in the primary, and every voter should have a serious Democrat to vote for in the general election.
That requires fielding 870 candidate for the House.
And taking a huge leap of faith in the Senate.
My Dem purity test going forward will be simple: would Candidate X have booed Electric Dylan in 1965? If so, they won’t have my vote.
Not Biden. Hillary wouldn’t have even gone to Newport, would she? Warren might have booed.
Sanders definitely would have booed.
Atrios had a sensible post the other day:
“But after we’re done telling people they’re idiots – and they are! – a lot of money is going to be raised and spent to figure out how to get a plurality of votes for candidates in congressional races and then a plurality of votes in enough states for a presidential candidate. Some of that will involve getting a few Trump voters to vote D, some of that will involve getting your stupid Bernie voting hippie friend to vote D, and some of that will involve getting some of the people who didn’t vote for whatever reason to vote D.”
I am reluctant to embrace the notion that the path forward for progressives is to figure out how to get back the members of the WWC who voted for Trump. I may be alone in finding a certain coherence in the Democrats’ message (regardless of how well or poorly any individual candidate articulated it): Economic justice, social justice, a decent safety net, embrace of diversity, respect for science, respect for individual rights. People can and will differ on trade, tariffs, abortion, guns; it doesn’t mean that we don’t potentially have a winning coalition. To be completely honest, I am not sure that I want racist white guys who long for the 1950s electing the next president no matter what message we find to appeal to them.