If, as seems likely, Julia Ioffe is correct that Yury Chaika, the prosecutor-general of the Russian Federation, is the “Crown Prosecutor” referred to in Donald Trump Jr.’s email chain, everyone involved should be concerned about their physical safety.
According to Ioffe, Chaika should be considered the Russian equivalent of Jeff Sessions, the U.S. Attorney General. That might not seem so scary, but Russia’s government is so violent and so intertwined with organized crime, that crossing their Attorney General is a perilous decision.
This is important for understanding why Rob Goldstone is insisting without the remotest plausibility that he was referring in his email to Trump Jr. to Natalia Veselnitskaya when he said that “the Crown prosecutor of Russia met with … Aras [Agalarov] this morning and in their meeting offered to provide some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.”
Put simply, Mr. Goldstone doesn’t want to be killed and if he confirmed that he was referring to Mr. Chaika his death would be a distinct possibility.
Ioffe does an excellent job of explaining this. Chaika was apparently close to gangster Sergei Tsapok whose organization was responsible for the Kushchyovskaya Massacre in 2010. His two adult sons have amassed vast fortunes through outright thuggery including the murder of at least one victim who was strangled to death.
Here’s a bigger taste of what kind of individual Trump Jr. was getting in bed with when he said he’d “love” to collude with the Russian government.
Chaika was central to the fusing of Russian organized crime and the siloviki, which has resulted in a kind of nationalization of extortion, racketeering, and other targeted violence. A thorough profile in the independent Russian news site Meduza alleges that Chaika’s ties to organized crime in Russia go back decades to when he was a prosecutor in eastern Siberia in the early 1990s. It was the era of privatizing the Soviet economy, and it was often violent, especially in Siberia. While Chaika spoke often about fighting “bandits,” the ones who operated in the areas he was responsible for were often mysteriously escaping prosecution. At the end of the decade, he came under scrutiny himself for two things: In one case, he was under government investigation for accepting a gold Longine watch worth thousands of dollars as a bribe, and in the second, $1 million of the money he asked the government to allot to build a local law school disappeared. (When a local newspaper reported on the government’s investigation, according to Meduza, their offices were raided by the special police, who planted pornography on the editor in chief. Chaika has never denied the substance of the profile; after other newspapers reported on the story, the police backed off the local editor.
Ioffe describes the siloviki as “people allied with security services, literally the people who settle disputes through force—inside the Kremlin.”
The security services knew that the Agalarovs had made business arrangements with Donald Trump and his eldest son to launch the Miss Universe pageant in Moscow in 2013. They also knew that Trump and the senior Agalarov were in discussions to build towers in the Russian capital. It was natural that they would use them as a way to make contact.
Of course, once the Trump team accepted their help, they were subject to blackmail. It may be that blackmail wasn’t necessary since they were so eager to collude, but the prospect of disclosure has been looming over the Trumps since at least the time of this email exchange and subsequent meeting.
It should be obvious that it’s a bad idea to mess with people like Chaika. Anyone who can tie him into this conspiracy needs to watch their back.
Mueller can be expected to watch his back, I think. He is the most important one for unraveling the Trump saga. And if Chaika would give orders to touch somebody of Trumps family, I expect Trump will uncontrollably lash out, with little respect for consequences.
I believe that Chaika is why Flynn has vanished from sight.
Perhaps, but perhaps he also listens to his attorneys.
It appears that glasnost and perestroika didn’t work well for Russia. Then again, neither did the 1917 revolution, criminals remain in charge.
“criminals remain in charge.”
Considering that Lenin, Stalin, and other Bolsheviks robbed a bank to fund their activities, literally so.
But…aren’t bankers often criminals too?
They are here…
AG
When an Englishman (Goldstone is English, right?) writes “Crown prosecutor” I think they tend to mean a prosecutor working for the Crown Prosecutor Service, not the Attorney General, who in the UK has the title of Attorney General.
“As of March 2013 the CPS employs more than 6,900 staff, 2,900 solicitors and barristers are on the advocate panel, employed externally or self-employed, who deal with all aspects of criminal casework.[1]
Crown Prosecutors (also known as reviewing lawyers) provide advice to investigators and take charging decisions; Crown Advocates present prosecution cases in court; Associate Prosecutors represent the CPS in cases with guilty pleas in the magistrates’ courts; and paralegals/casework assistants provide clerical support and help with progressing cases.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Prosecution_Service
The interpretation that the writer in the Atlantic does is akin to translating District Attorney into Attorney General.
I don’t understand this. Why would anybody in Russia care what Rob Goldstone says about anything? So what if he names Chaika? How will that blow back on anybody in Russia? They care about the press inside Russia or some prosecutor getting evidence that they violated Russian law, but would colluding with the Trump campaign to undermine U.S. democracy violate Russian law?
If not, or if (as I assume) their only response would be to shrug: “yes, Mr. Chaika met with representatives of the Trump campaign. So what are you going to do about it?” then the only reason they don’t laugh and brag about it is that would undermine the Putinovich Trump administration, and possibly lead to his downfall, which wouldn’t be in Russia’s interest.
But, why would anything Goldstone says blow back on Russia? Except in so far as it could undermine Putinovich Trump I don’t see how this affects them. So how would Goldstone fear for his life?
My god.
Why don’t you finger a gangster and see how it turns out?
The Russians deny all of this. They want the sanctions lifted. They don’t want people testifying in American courts or in front of Congress that their Attorney General was behind the whole thing.
This is hard to understand?
No problem there. The settlement guaranteed no trial. Small price to pay for murder, assault and a huge payoff. Will we ever know who ultimately got that money? Seems never.
Crown prosecutor still does not mean Attorney General.
yeah, it does in the context of Russia.
Russia isn’t a monarchy, it has no crown prosecutors. England where the writer of the email lives, has Crown prosecutors. There it means prosecutor, not Attorney General.
If an American wrote about a Russian district attorney, and assuming Russian prosecutors are called something else, would he then mean a) a prosecutor or b) the attorney general?
I get that you invested a blog post based on a bad translation, but this is getting silly.
I think you’re missing the importance of the word “the” on the transcript.
We talk about the Attorney General because there is only one on the federal level. We would say a U.S. Attorney if we were talking about a prosecutor.
So what was the purpose of that meeting anyway? If not about orphans and no input on Hillary, then what? You mean to say the lawyer traveled here for no reason at all?
Never mind. Magnisky act.
Additionally, it would be foolish for us to believe their story that nothing came out of the June 9th meeting.
They met. Within days, both Trump and the Russians made public signals that they would honor the deal they were making. Soon, the Russians’ deliverables were delivered, exactly when Don Jr. and the other senior campaign staffer in the meeting wanted them to be delivered, “…later in the summer.”
I agree. She didn’t travel here to see Junior for nothing at all. I am still wondering if it had anything to do with the theft of that $230 million.
Then there is this.
It turns out that the first story, that the meeting was only about adoptions, originated from WH staff, who wrote it up on Air Force One on the way back from Europe.
Nothing they say is the truth. Nothing.
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I can’t help but feel the meet had something to do with the payoff or payback.
There’s a lot of great stuff being written right now.
This is particularly good. On how Americans don’t really have a frame of reference in dealing with Trump and his family, let alone understanding the depth of corruption that is happening in Russia.
And it seems obvious to me the Washington Monthly gets read.
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The comments thread to that post is starting out very strong.
“LosGatosCA *
If I’m a non-US leader, Trump is a clear problem, but he’s more of a symptom of a larger problem. The real problem is that America as a country has become unreliable.
Starting with the Clinton impeachment, the elites have become ineffectual in managing a stable long term trajectory. Two stolen presidential elections in 16 years, the neocon big dick foreign policy leading to Iraq and an inflamed Middle East, etc, etc.
Sure Obama was a charismatic political leader but can easily be seen as the exception rather than the rule. Trump could be gone tomorrow, how much better than Bush II is Dense?
America doesn’t have a leadership problem, it has structural political problems and a very significant part of the population that’s simply batshit insane. It’s taken 24 years for the US political establishment to devolve from a Persian Gulf war leader of the free world lead by an experienced bureaucratic professional to a dysfunctional, undemocratic, illiberal banana republic wannabe.
Make a deal with the US? Payoff better happen before the next election, after that you may just be holding a bag of flaming shit.”
Also, too, this:
Christopher Hayes
@chrislhayes
When the pre-emptive pardons start coming and the GOP sticks by him, that’s when it gets really ugly.
4:12 PM – 11 Jul 2017
Neither can the NY Times be believed.
As I have been saying…a nest of snakes.
Unless that email chain that these dummies finally released is totally false or at the very least somehow altered, it is nothing but a few student snakes practicing their art on one another.
More Postfactual bullshit from the NY Times.
AG
Trump could have written this comment.
credit to lgm commenter a_paul_in_mtl
We’re on to point 5 now.
5. I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.
And any number of Deep State operatives could have written yur comment.
This is a lose/lose game, ismael. If you have read enough of my stuff here…and if of course your reading comprehension is past say high-school level…it would be quite evident that I am neither a Trump supporter nor a Trump apologist.
Facts, however, are facts. The NY Times…and the Washingtoon Post just to name the two most prominent perpetrators of CIA disinfo/misinfo over the past 50 + years or so…are part of a nest of snakes that have poisoned the minds of too many U.S.-ians.
Trump did not write that comment. I did., and I stand by it. The Governmental Media Complex has so overblown its ridiculous take on Trump and Russia…all the while pretty much ignoring many easily demonstrably true subjects that could take him down…that it is beginning to get fairly ridiculous. I worry that much of the U.S. public will tire of all of this shilly-shallying and simply give Trump a free pass.
Not buying the Deep State line does not necessarily mean buying Trump’s line. That is two-dimensional thinking at its shallowest.
Later…
AG
More babble from the babbler.
It’s the sad result when people read the beats and the gonzos and the psychedelics and Don’t Fucking Get It.
Brautigan, Guinsburg, RA Wilson, Vonnegut, Hunter S. Thompson. Geniuses all.
And it’s pearls before swine.
“Nothing means anything!” hurrr durrr.
Congrats on reality 101.
Grow the fuck up.
…a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
“Not buying the Deep State line does not necessarily mean buying Trump’s line.”
It just enables and enpowers Trump’s line, that’s all. It’s the definition of a distinction without a difference.
What a sad clown that Trump-loving community member has become.
Occurs to me that Trump & family are still in the honeymoon stage of their relationship with Putin & his oligarchs. He is relaxed and still in his happy talk mode with them much like many of the American businessmen who first sauntered into the circle with $ signs in their eyes.
But the next stage approaches. The mechanisms of leverage are in place for Putin himself or his oligarchs & mafia independently to start the pressure to get Trump to perform. Trump is their pawn and he stupidly hasn’t recognized it yet.