Flynn and Kislyak’s Israel Talks Were a Bigger Deal

Last Valentine’s Day, I wrote what I think is a very strong piece explaining why I didn’t believe the official story that the Intelligence Community forced Michael Flynn out because they were concerned he could be blackmailed by the Russians over his December 29th communications with Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. It’s worth rereading now less for its prescience than for helping us get back into the atmosphere that existed in Washington DC at that time. Why is this desirable? For starters, people have forgotten that the IC forced Flynn out. What people seem to remember and report is that Mike Pence forced Flynn out, which was at best a cover story at the time.

Here’s another reminder about the setting in which this all went down. The first we heard about Micheal Flynn having communications with Ambassador Kislyak came in a David Ignatius column on January 12th, entitled Why did Obama dawdle on Russia’s hacking?

The hacking story was red-hot for several reasons. First, the Intelligence Community had released a declassified report on January 6th called Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections: The Analytic Process and Cyber Incident Attribution. Then, on January 10th, BuzzFeed released the Steele Dossier, including all its salacious allegations. People wanted to know why the Obama administration hadn’t done more to protect our election from this kind of interference.

They also felt like this information cast doubt on the legitimacy of Trump’s victory, and one of the things that particularly struck people at the time was Trump’s reticence to acknowledge or respect the Intelligence Community’s findings that Russia was responsible for the hacks on the DNC, John Podesta and other individuals and Democratic institutions.

Going all the way back to mid-June 2016, the same day that Crowdstrike released a statement implicating the Russians in the DNC hacks, the Trump campaign risibly accused the Democrats of hacking themselves. After the Intelligence Community said on September 5th that they were investigating “a broad covert Russian operation in the United States to sow public distrust,” Trump went on the RT cable news network and said it was “probably unlikely” Putin was behind the hacks.

This continued during the debates when Trump refused to accept Russia’s involvement, and it didn’t change after October 7th when the DHS and DNI released a statement about Russian efforts to “interfere with the US election process.” When, on December 29th, President Obama announced he was expelling 35 Russians and placing sanctions on nine Russian institutions and individuals, Trump seemed annoyed and said he thought it was time to “move on.”

Even after emerging from a January 6th intelligence briefing on the subject with John Brennan, James Clapper and James Comey, Trump could do no better than say, “Russia, China, other countries, outside groups and people are consistently trying to break through the cyber infrastructure of our governmental institutions, businesses and organizations…There was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election including the fact that there was no tampering whatsoever with voting machines.”

In fact, it wasn’t until a January 11th press conference, the day before Ignatius’s column appeared, that Trump finally acknowledged Russia’s authorship of the hacks.

So, this was how things looked and some indication of Trump’s mindset when the news broke that Michael Flynn had been in secret communication with the Russian ambassador. Trump’s behavior was both exasperating and highly suspicious, and it would have looked very bad if it had been known that Flynn tried to undermine President Obama’s sanctions on the same day he issued them.

Ignatius acknowledged that the Trump team probably wouldn’t have a committed a crime in such a case, owing mainly to the fact that the Logan Act has never been enforced.  In fact, Ignatius wrote “If the Trump team’s contacts helped discourage the Russians from a counter-retaliation, maybe that’s a good thing.” Nonetheless, he said the American people had the right to know what Trump had done.

After Flynn pled guilty yesterday to lying about his conversations with Ambassador Kislyak, we have a lot more clarity and certainty about what happened, but a lot of commentators, including Ignatius, are wondering why the Trump team didn’t just admit what they had done in the first place.

Here’s Ignatius offering a theory:

Why was Flynn lying about the Kislyak calls? What was he covering up? We have one hint in the “Statement of the Offense” that accompanies the plea agreement. The prosecutors say that Flynn cleared his comments to Kislyak beforehand with an unnamed official who is described as “a senior official of the Presidential Transition Team” who was staying with Trump at Mar-a-Lago. Only then, with top-level approval to discuss sanctions, did Flynn call the Russian ambassador.

Say what you like about Flynn, but an ex-general follows the chain of command. Given his seniority as the designated national security adviser, there are only two people who would likely have authorized this contact with Russia: Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, who had been conducting his own extensive back-channel contacts with Kislyak and other Russians, and the president-elect himself, who had said throughout the campaign that he wanted to improve relations with Russia.

What this doesn’t explain is why they didn’t just say, “Yeah, Flynn called him and offered relief from the sanctions and he did it under the direction of Kushner and/or Trump.” Why did they try to lie first about what Flynn had discussed with Kislyak and then about whether Flynn had been honest with the press shop and Mike Pence? Why did they let Flynn fall on his sword and lose his job when all he did was follow orders? And why were they prepared to let him rot in jail?

In part, the answer is that they were under a lot of heat and suspicion. In part, it’s because the Intelligence Community was already antagonized and would have gone ape. In fact, the Intelligence Community was listening to the Flynn-Kislyak conversations in real time, and they did go ape.

But it’s also because everyone has been focused on the wrong set of conversations. It wasn’t the December 29th sanction-related conversations that were the most devious. It was the December 22nd UN Resolution-related conversations that the administration wanted to hide the most. This was a resolution condemning Israeli settlements. The United States had vetoed similar resolutions in the past, but President Obama had indicated that we would abstain this time and let the vote occur. This made Israel furious and they reached out to Jared Kushner to see if he could put a stop to it.  Kushner then called Michael Flynn and tasked him with contacting every country on the fifteen-member UN Security Council. Obviously, Russia was one of those countries:

Egypt presented the UN resolution on 21 December. According to prosecutors, Flynn spoke to then-Russian ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak about the resolution the next day and pressured Russia to oppose it. On 23 December, Kislyak told Flynn that Russia would not veto the resolution.

“During the January 24 voluntary interview, FLYNN made additional false statements about calls he made to Russia and several other countries regarding a resolution submitted by Egypt to the United Nations Security Council on December 21, 2016,” prosecution documents said.

“Specifically FLYNN falsely stated that he only asked the countries’ positions on the vote, and that he did not request that any of the countries take any particular action on the resolution. FLYNN also falsely stated that the Russian Ambassador never described to him Russia’s response to FLYNN’s request regarding the resolution,” the documents added.

Notice that Flynn perjured himself to protect Kushner and Trump. But it was a foolish thing to do because Kushner’s efforts were anything but secret.

While the Times of Israel reported on the 22nd that the vote had been postponed due to “high level” contacts between their government and the government of Egypt, the truth of the matter emerged in their paper on December 23rd: “Egypt has agreed to postpone a UN resolution…agreement reached in phone conversation between Trump and El-Sisi.”

In fact, while Foreign Policy magazine did not know about Flynn’s efforts to call all the countries on the Security Council, they knew that “The Trump transition team approached the State Department with an urgent request: Hand over any cell phone numbers, emails, and other contacts of ambassadors and foreign ministers from the Security Council’s 15 member states.” Additionally, it wasn’t exactly subtle when “Nikki Haley, Trump’s appointee for UN envoy, tried ‘frantically’ to reach Samantha Power, the US ambassador to the UN at the time.”

The White House knew exactly what the Trump team was doing and they were openly annoyed about it at the time. They wanted the UN Resolution to pass, and the Trump transition team was working frantically on Netanyahu’s behalf to defeat or postpone it. This was a far more aggressive violation of the Logan Act than the comparatively tame sanctions-related assurances Flynn offered to Kislyak on the 29th.

The main difference between the two issues was that Obama was more isolated on the Israel issue while Trump was more isolated on the Russia one. There were a lot of people around town who disagreed with Obama letting the UN Resolution go through, but there was almost no one who wasn’t in Trump’s inner circle who supported undermining the president’s punishment of Russian interference in the election.

So, the incoming administration was relatively happy to have the focus on the Russia side of the coin, but they didn’t want to cop to either effort at undermining Obama.

The Intelligence Community knew that Flynn would be more damaged and easier to expel if they focused on the less popular of his conversations with Kislyak, so that’s what they leaked to Ignatius. In truth, though, the UN Resolution effort was the larger and more egregious violation of principle. It even succeeded, briefly, in delaying the vote.

Incidentally, if you want to know why Alan Dershowitz is so keen to dismiss any wrongdoing by Michael Flynn, you should watch this video:

As recently as March, President Trump used Dershowitz to convey a private message to Netanyahu after having a private meeting with him at Mar-a-Lago. Neither Dershowitz nor Netanyahu want to see Flynn punished for doing what he could to prevent Obama’s “betrayal” of Israel. There’s nothing necessarily wrong with that, from their perspectives at least, but you should keep it in mind when you see Dershowitz opining on the Russia investigation.

Author: BooMan

Martin Longman a contributing editor at the Washington Monthly. He is also the founder of Booman Tribune and Progress Pond. He has a degree in philosophy from Western Michigan University.

20 thoughts on “Flynn and Kislyak’s Israel Talks Were a Bigger Deal”

  1. Wow, just wow!  The perfect article post the Flynn pleading.  We are getting closer to the evidence I was asking for in January and also to understanding the reluctance of the intelligence community to proffer that evidence that might more conclusively convinced the public (even honest Republicans, granting that that might be a null set).

    Why is this desirable? For starters, people have forgotten that the IC forced Flynn out.

    It was apparent during the campaign that the IC emeritus was backing Clinton.  The problem is the IC emeritus individuals never ever mounted a factual case that could not be spun as just their partisan politicization.  The rub they faced: even the lifelong Republicans were being construed as Democratic partisans.  It was obvious to me that someone with IC links was getting information out to initiate an investigation.  Ignatius after all has the reputation of being a CIA cut-out like James Risen.

    In January, my beef was the same as William Binney’s.  The NSA has the SIGINT on the communications; they can present that as a slam dunk.  My error, which someone could have pointed out instead of questioning my patriotism, was that that sort of evidence is best subpoenaed by and investigation and released to the public as a court record.

    I might not have heard that in January.  I was smarting that if the evidence was so good and the threat was so great, the evidence should have been presented in a way to prevent Trump from ever being elected or taking office.  I now realize that likely was not that easy to do in a highly-charged political environment.

    Netanyahu is another one in the Trump era environment who better be careful what he asks for; he might get it.

    Against, another of your top-notch work.  More of this.

    1. And all of this relates, of course, to Sen. McConnell’s veto in September 2016 of the Obama administration’s proposal to issue a bipartisan condemnation of Russian interference in the election, as later documented by the POST:

      https:/www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national-security/obama-putin-election-hacking?u
      tm_term=.9c0bdefeb1e6

      In matters related to intelligence, Republican leadership was devoted to putting party above country.  That they were allowing “lifelong Republicans” to be portrayed as Democratic operatives was another example of this attitude.  In such a situation, anything the IC produced that was inimical to Republican interests would simply have been trashed, as McConnell threatened to do about Russian interference.  That is why, as this comment rightly concludes, it was essential to have such information become public through a nonpartisan legal channel.

      1. Indeed, that was the tell that required evidence convincing to the public in order to have accountability.  The first steps to getting there were provided only when Trump fired Comey and the DOJ appointed Mueller. (I think that’s why Trump is tempted to do a Saturday Night Massacre.

  2. As Mr. Longman does not note (because it might distract from his central point), the Trump team’s intervention on the Israel Security Council resolution was in line with Republican efforts more generally to advance Netanyahu’s positions against those of Obama.  It was this spirit that primarily motivated their opposition to the Iran nuclear agreement, and it was also behind their invitation to Netanyahu to address Congress in March 2015 — an event as extraordinary and transgressive in the political sphere as the efforts against the Israel vote were in the diplomatic and legal areas.  As with so many other things, the Trump team was following in the direction the Republican Party had already pursued:  prioritizing the policies of a foreign government over their own, not only substantively but also through flagrant public disrespect.  This behavior was, of course, made easier by their years-long effort to delegitimize Obama as President in the first place.  

  3. My earlier diary …

    A great populist/patriotic theme, will be a winner with majority of Americans.

  4. Ignatius acknowledged that the Trump team probably wouldn’t have a committed a crime in such a case.

    What both Ignatius and you are ignoring is that Flynn, Kushner, Trump and the result of the campaign team know what they did and what they did is far more extensive than Flynn getting on the phone and asking the Russians not to retaliate for sanctions.

    Remember it was already clear that Russia had targeted the American political system with the specific intent of electing Trump (and the Trump campaign was clearly a partner in their actions). Kushner had already been caught attempting to coordinate with the Russians to use their facilities in an attempt to evade American intelligence agencies. We knew that Manafort, Page and Flynn had close ties to Putin, and we now know that Flynn was working as a foreign agent for at least two countries (Russia and Turkey). He apparently planned explicitly illegal actions, like the kidnapping and rendition of a political adversary of Erdogan.

    By focusing on the narrow, specific allegation it’s easy for Ignatius to pretend that Flynn was actually acting in U.S. interests rather than paying off a campaign debt. But, the idea a hostile foreign government could install an agent at the head of the American government is very much an attack on national security.

    Flynn’s actions colluding with them to accomplish that is clearly prosecutable.

    1. I think we are well assured that Flynn will face other charges if he does not sing like a canary.  And singing like a canary will involve telling what his sidekick Jared Kushner was up to and how Trump himself was involved.

      That will involve Flynn’s role in collusion as being those other charges.  And what Flynn did will come from people who know that Flynn has already has testified against them.

      Prisoner’s dilemma is generally helpful to the prosecutor.

      1. …telling what his sidekick Jared Kushner was up to

        I think that this Republican Congress will continue to protect DJT. They will need their tax cuts to become law, and perhaps even see the dismantling of Social Security and Medicare.

        So for now, it seems to me, that the best option is to go after Jared Kushner. Make the case against him foolproof, and then bring indictments.

        That may lead to DJT losing his marbles altogether, or trying to pardon Kushner. Now the Congress will not be that keen to protect Kushner.

  5. Well that’s true. Of course, then there’s this:

    Emails Dispute White House Claims That Flynn Acted Independently on Russia

    While Mr. Trump has disparaged as a Democratic “hoax” any claims that he or his aides had unusual interactions with Russian officials, the records suggest that the Trump transition team was intensely focused on improving relations with Moscow and was willing to intervene to pursue that goal despite a request from the Obama administration that it not sow confusion about official American policy before Mr. Trump took office.

    On Dec. 29, a transition adviser to Mr. Trump, K. T. McFarland, wrote in an email to a colleague that sanctions announced hours before by the Obama administration in retaliation for Russian election meddling were aimed at discrediting Mr. Trump’s victory. The sanctions could also make it much harder for Mr. Trump to ease tensions with Russia, “which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him,” she wrote in the emails obtained by The Times.

    It is not clear whether Ms. McFarland was saying she believed that the election had in fact been thrown. A White House lawyer said on Friday that she meant only that the Democrats were portraying it that way.

    But it is evident from the emails — which were obtained from someone who had access to transition team communications — that after learning that President Barack Obama would expel 35 Russian diplomats, the Trump team quickly strategized about how to reassure Russia. The Trump advisers feared that a cycle of retaliation between the United States and Russia would keep the spotlight on Moscow’s election meddling, tarnishing Mr. Trump’s victory and potentially hobbling his presidency from the start.

    1. That’s the old Sean Spicer. “No, I’m using your words. You’re the one who said I raped and killed her. I wasn’t confessing. I was just saying what you said.”  

  6. I wonder about the infamous intelligence briefing where Flynn blew up and had to be calmed down by Chris Christie.  Was there info there that got back to the Russians?  Or other briefings Flynn was in.  Is this guy a traitor?  Because that story sticks with me. Trump said he could “read the body language” of the briefer.  Just another piece of the puzzle?

    1. If you are going to start sussing out traitors in this investigation, you can start with Flynn’s participation in Iron Bridge, a company that has been peddling nuclear reactors and the security systems to Saudi Arabia, among other countries.

      But you will also have to investigate Michael Hadley, Keith Alexander, and other retired military gone entrepreneur in their post-military career.

      Where does pitching foreign nations cross the line to treason?

      1. In fact, I’m beginning to think the 2016 election was on a different level a battle between two MIC syndicates, one around Iron Bridge and the other around Erik Prince.  Nothing substantial yet, just a strong hint based on Marcy Wheeler’s coverage of Flynn and Iron Bridge.  And a slide show that the Washington Post liberated that was pitching Saudi Arabia.

          1. No, it’s not a BFD.

            Saban prioritizes Israel’s interests. He hated the Obama Administration’s willingness to let a Resolution go through the UN Security Council which was critical of an action by the government of Israel. BooMan’s post here discusses this. Kushner’s efforts to try to scuttle the Resolution were fine with Saban.

            Besides, Saban wasn’t universally praising Kushner today. There was this:

            “Saban introduced Kushner as “a 36-year-old successful businessman who left it all behind to be of service to his country.” But later, he also expressed skepticism about the Kushner-led process.

            “There’s not a Middle East macher in this group,” he said of Kushner’s small team, made up primarily of Trump loyalists with no diplomatic experience. “With all due respect, it’s a bunch of Orthodox Jews who have no idea about anything.”

  7. Many years ago, when I was a beginning prosecutor, I hated Alan Dershowitz. Oh, I had tremendous respect for him. But he was on the defense side, the Dark Side, while prosecutors were on the side of justice and righteousness.

    Later, I became a defense attorney. And as I started to see things from the other side, I learned a lot about defense work, and life, and how much cops lie, and how people can surprise you, and I have a very different view of life now.

    And you know what? I still fucking hate Alan Dershowitz.

    1. I also hate Alan Dershowitz, but it’s a little hard for me to explain why — he just has that “certain something”. So, from a prosecutor’s POV, could you please put it into words?

       

  8. Great analysis, Boo.

    One thing really shines out for me about how the Trumpsters handled this Israel thing: AMATEUR HOUR. Then you realize the same is true for how they handled the Russia thing. It makes you realize why it’s so important for them to turn our professional diplomatic corps into a diplomatic corpse.

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