The people who work closely with Donald Trump not only think he’s an idiot but they come right and say it in meetings and crowded hallways where there’s a better than zero chance that word of it will get back to the president. I’m uncertain which of these two things is stranger.
One man who thinks the president is a dunce and quit as a result is his former lead attorney John Dowd. And prior to it being leaked to the New York Times, John Dowd is the only person outside Robert Mueller’s office who is known for certain to have been in possession of a list of the dozens of questions the special prosecutor wants to ask Donald Trump. Dowd looked at that list and decided right then and there that there was no way that Trump could willingly sit down and give a deposition without a huge risk of incriminating himself. Trump didn’t see himself in that kind of peril, so he had to go looking for a new lawyer.
It would be odd if John Dowd decided to leak Mueller’s questions. But it’s kind of odd that anyone leaked them. No matter which side you look at, it’s hard to pin down an obvious motive. The special prosecutor’s office doesn’t want to open itself up to criticism. Trump’s team doesn’t want the press asking the same questions that Mueller wants to ask.
The questions are a bit disappointing in that they contain few surprises. But there are a few gems in the bunch, and plenty of opportunity for schadenfreude. It’s amusing and a little satisfying to see Mueller ask Trump what he meant when he wrote various tweets that were clearly self-incriminating and noted as such at the time he published them. It must be a shock to Trump to have his material shoved back in his face as evidence of his criminality.
There’s a repeated theme throughout the questions that I am sure Trump didn’t anticipate. And that’s a ream of inquiries about why Trump badmouthed members of the intelligence community. Why was he obsessed with Andrew McCabe? Why did he turn on Comey after being so happy with his shivving of Hillary Clinton? Why did he want to fire Jeff Sessions? Why was he so angry that Sessions recused himself? What did he think when the special prosecutor was named? Why did he try to fire the special prosecutor?
There are no good answers to these questions that you’d want to give to Bob Mueller’s face.
Trump has been trying to build a case that the intelligence community is out to get him and that they’re all corrupt, but that’s not exactly the kind of bullshit that will convince Mueller to give him a passing grade. When Mueller says, “What did you say when I was appointed and why did you try to fire me?,” he already knows the answers.
There’s obviously more peril for Trump than just his blatant and absurdly public efforts to obstruct justice. Mueller also has a long list of questions related to collusion with the Russians, and he knows the answers to most of those questions, too. He knows because people like Michael Flynn and Sam Clovis and Felix Sater and George Papadopoulos and Rick Gates have been cooperating for months. He knows because he’s interviewed Hope Hicks and Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus and dozens of other witnesses. He knows, or soon will know, because the Justice Department now has Michael Cohen by the short and curlies along with sixteen of his cell phones and terabytes of his digital and hardcopy records. He knows because he seized a small warehouse of Paul Manafort’s business records. He knows because he has NSA intercepts and months of careful surveillance of Carter Page.
So Trump can talk to Mueller if he wants but all Mueller really wants to do is to assess his credibility, and if he tells the truth Mueller won’t even have to write a report. He can just play the video of the deposition, which will be all the corroboration he’d ever need. Trump would have to lie, and he’d have no idea of what lies he could safely tell and what lies would be easily contradicted by others’ testimony and hard evidence. Even if Trump were in the habit of keeping his own stories straight and consistent, he’d have this problem. But Trump doesn’t seem to have enough of a grasp of what is real and what is fiction to have even a puncher’s chance of winning an exchange with the special counsels’ interrogators.
Some questions don’t even offer an easy opportunity for dissembling. For example, he is supposed to tell Mueller what he knew about the effort to build a Trump Tower in Moscow in the fall and winter of 2015. No response other than that he knew literally nothing about those efforts would be acceptable or remotely consistent with his story that he had no business dealings with Russia. But Sater is cooperating and Cohen soon will be. In any case, Mueller has their electronic communications and can read it for himself. Trump can only hurt himself by lying, but he’d lie anyway.
Probably the most troubling question comes near the end of the list. Mueller ominously asks what Trump knew about Manafort reaching out to the Russians for help with the campaign. The outreach is stated as a fact, suggesting that Mueller has some evidence to support his contention. Perhaps Manafort’s business partner Rick Gates gave him this information, or perhaps he got it from multiple sources. Obviously, Trump can only answer that he was completely ignorant about this treachery. Everything will probably come down to whether or not Mueller has enough evidence to prove that Trump is lying.
Or, more accurately, it would come down to that if Trump were to actually respond to these questions. He probably will be talked out of doing so, but now that the media and the rest of the world knows what to ask, it’s possible that Trump will give incriminating or dishonest answers to a reporter or some voter on a rope line.
If Mueller did leak these questions, which I seriously doubt, he must have hoped it would shake some answers loose. If someone on Trump’s team leaked them, it could only have been to either blame Mueller for it or to hope that it would somehow convince Trump to take the Fifth.
As we all know, Mueller has a timeline full of answers to all of these questions and the documentation to backup all that he knows.
As you say, there are no answers available to Trump that won’t put him in further jeopardy. This is the house of cards that Trump has built and just like his NY Tower, there’s no fire extinguishers on the upper floors.
Though there was nothing terribly surprising, it’s appropriate to look at the list as still only one bucket of Mueller’s investigation. This list doesn’t reflect the actual hack, the money laundering, the instances of self gain that Kushner engaged in or the national security that has been compromised.
Because of the timing I had thought that it was Rudy that leaked all this, but John Dowd has a reputation to fish out of the toilet as well.
General consistence is Rudy leaked them.
Just joined the team a week ago and now leaks
I think you mean “general consensus.”
Remember also that these are not “questions” Mueller will ask but topics of inquiry. The actual questions will be much more direct, require yes/no answers, and Trump answering one of them with a lie will require contradicting himself on the next.
Also, Marcy Wheeler documents how the MSM is so focused on “obstruction” when the obstruction is about the quid pro quo of the “collusion”:
“Just Obstruction” Is The New “Red Line”
If Trump doesn’t want to talk to Mueller, a Grand Jury subpoena is the next step.
Isn’t there some axiom that prosecutor’s have that “you don’t ask questions you don’t already have the answers to”?
My money is on Dowd leaking them.
Knowing the track record of this “Keystone Cops” administration, they are playing eleventy-billion dimension chess, and think they are good at it.
There might be no reason at all for leaking it, no more than Drumpf Jr. releasing all of his incriminating emails, other than they think they are the smartest people in the universe…
The Hill is reporting that grammatical and spelling errors indicate the questions were leaked by Trump or someone close to him:
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/385602-muellers-former-assistant-says-grammatical-errors-prove-leak
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Considering how it’s been reported for 15 months that when an aide or friend close to Trump wants him to see or hear something that they give the tip or leak to the press so that it will be on air, it’s a good argument that his own legal team past or present put this out there so he’d see the discussion and realize that he needs to stfu.
Somehow I don’t see Trump taking the fifth.
I think he’d fire Mueller before that.
I strongly suspect that Mueller thought there was a decent chance of these questions leaking, and ‘salted’ the list for that purpose. In other words, I suspect Mueller knows who leaked…
I still think the only crimes that will move the needle are financial crimes. ie: money laundering.
The right contends/obfuscates that the left also has had quid pro quo dalliances with Russia to the point that this is now a given as ‘both sides do it’.
Oh, think Gates gave up lots about the money laundering and that LLC Mickey Cohen used to pay off Stormy is a lead I’m sure Mueller has taken advantage of. The questions leaked do not touch the financial crimes as they can be proved with documents, bank statements, tax returns….all that stuff they took out of Mickey’s home, hotel, and office.
. . . recent thread (and fulfilling my prediction*):
–Tom Sullivan at digby’s place
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Oh, all these leaks and other machinations are becoming, um, somewhat tiresome. It’s going to quite some time before Mueller gets access to the CohenLode, which whatever Kimba decides, will be appealed to the last extremity.
As to Trumper’s deposition, all this “Will he or Won’t he” is beside the point. If Prez Clinton could be forced by routine subpeona to sit for a deposition in a routine civil matter, then surely Der Trumper can be forced to sit for a deposition in an ongoing investigation into RussiaGate by a special prosecutor. What’s curious is with all the ongoing lawsuits/investigations against our political criminal, this issue has not yet come to the fore in any case, despite the clear Clinton v. Jones precedent. It’s all up to what Mueller wants to do, Der Trumper can’t stop it, short of firings.
Hard to see what was to be gained by giving Trumper’s musical-chairs legal team ANY idea of the areas about which they wished to question our wannabe dictator. Consideration for the office? A cooperative relationship with the Trumper lawyers? Who cares? Since Trumper is the focal point of both obstruction and collusion, why the helpful assistance by Mueller? He surely knows he can’t get any actual evidence from a congenital liar and perp like Trumper, so why the deference?
Someday, over the rainbow, Trump is blue.
Questions asked, over the depo,
what then, o what, to do?
. . . on Dowd (most likely [John, not MoDo!]) or Rudy 9/11 (based on timing) — not Mueller’s shop — as source of leak.
E.g., booman above:
though it seems perfectly reasonable to expect Rudy’s now also privy to it since joining Trump’s “legal” “team”.
This is also consistent with the long-established, complementary patterns of Mueller’s operation remaining pretty consistently airtight and WH continuously leaking like a sieve.
“The questions are a bit disappointing in that they contain few surprises.”
Such statements confirm my own perception that everyone already knows what happened. Sure a few details are missing, but everyone KNOWS it was Trump’s organized crime family colluding with a hostile foreign (and local) entities and U.S. corporate media to manifest the fascistic wet dreams of a few dozen conservative oligarchs and their elected Republican lackeys who pray their personal Pharaoh’s will remember them in the afterlife.
Trump et al. know this, hence President Stupid’s administration just keeps trying to get as much figurative and, probably literal, copper wire out of the Federal Government before the con runs its course and it’s time for burner alias passports to non-extradition countries.
The actual fight we’re in is will what everyone knows happened be allowed to become an acknowledged fact in the Public Square at a time and place where ANYONE of consequence will be held accountable.
I am very pessimistic about it.
If the source is anyone connected to Trump, as most seem to believe, I would assume the list has been edited. I think Mueller by now has much more than is present in these questions, which touch mostly on matters that are public knowledge. Flynn and Gates must have told him some things, for example.
edited or outdated.
I think most now have this thing sort of figured out. That said, I also think we will never nail it all down. What I want is to get Trump and the evil empire,out of Office. That will most probably require a Democratic Congress. Absent that our next chance is 2020. Let’s just not underestimate Trump or his base. They will never relinquish power easily. They enjoy lording over all us liptards, as in get over it. Take the back seat there and shut up. See how much you like paying more for your Medicare and such.
Sounds like Mueller plans on a subpeona if Trump does not agree to an interview.