The Washington Post and the New York Times both published articles yesterday with the same basic premise. The Democratic base has has moved so far to the left that it is embracing socialism. The left’s voters are so angry and fearful that they’re calling for the abolishment of the Department of Homeland Security’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency. They’re voting out their own leadership in favor of intemperate and vituperative radicals who espouse unworkable and foreign-sounding ideas that won’t play in the heartland. The responsible adults are losing control and the best recent analog for all of this is the 2009-2010 rise of the Tea Party.
In fairness, they aren’t making this up out of whole cloth, and some of the concern they’re reporting on is coming straight from the mouths of veteran Democratic politicians and strategists from Washington DC or high up in the party’s top organizations.
“There is a big difference between a strategic message targeted to win an election and an emotional call like ‘Abolish ICE,’ ” said former congressman Steve Israel (N.Y.), who led the Democratic House election effort for two cycles. “One feels good for the person screaming, and one works for the person voting.”
“What sounds good in Brooklyn, N.Y., doesn’t work in Brooklyn, Iowa,” Israel said.
I have a lot of objections to how this story is being reported but one of the main ones is the comparison to the Tea Party. The analogy bothers me for two reasons. First, the Tea (Taxed Enough Already) revolt sprung into being during a period of historically low federal taxation and in response to a housing crisis that grew and exploded under Republican leadership. It was immediately repurposed to fight health care reforms, and that was at least a reaction to a sharp change in longstanding policy. Overall, however, the Tea Party movement was obsessed over debt, deficit spending, and government overreach, which were things that concerned Republicans not at all during the Bush administration and no longer concern them now that Trump is president.
What Democrats are responding to at the moment are momentous changes that are really too long to list. The president just said that some states will soon ban abortion which has has been constitutionally protected for forty-five years. The Supreme Court just gutted public sector unions, legalized racial disenfranchisement through state redistricting, and gave the president the authority to impose a nakedly racist and religiously bigoted travel ban. Trump is in a Watergate-level of trouble over his suspected coordination with Russia during the election and his policies toward our allies in Europe, the Far East, and on our borders amount to a brazen compromise of American alliances and values. His self-dealing is unprecedented and his violations of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution are going unpunished. He’s openly obstructing justice every day. The environment is under attack. Science is under attack. The FBI and Department of Justice are under attack. The press is threatened and intimidated constantly. Our system of immigration is being reworked in radical ways, and white nationalists are serving as senior White House advisers and on the National Security Council.
Oh, and did I mention that Trump is about to replace Justice Kennedy with a true movement conservative and give these radicals a clear majority on the Supreme Court for the first time, and that their majority may last for decades?
So, the first thing that bothers me is that the two situations (Tea Partiers in 2009-10 and Democrats today) are far too dissimilar to be breezily compared to each other.
The second thing that bugs me is that the press doesn’t seem to have updated their estimation of the effectiveness of the Tea Party movement to account for their midterm successes in 2010 and 2014 or the election of Donald Trump. This dismissiveness was wrong from the get-go, as it focused only on the races the Republicans lost in 2010 and 2012 that they might have won with more status quo candidates. It’s true that the GOP left some Senate seats on the table, but they seem to have bounced back from their nadir in 2008 to gain the biggest majorities they’ve held in this country since the 1920’s. The radical rhetoric of the Tea Party surely contributed to these successes and if so-called Democratic socialists have the same kind of successes over the next ten years, I don’t think they’ll mind the comparisons.
In any case, as Trump supporters revel in their current power, they surely have earned the right to laugh at every analyst who said the Tea Party’s extremism would doom the right.
There’s a better case to be made that their radicalism doomed the country, and if the press wants to write concern-troll stories about how radical-sounding Democrats are going to contribute to ripping the country party apart, that would at least be an interesting debate to have. What doesn’t seem merited, at all, is to argue that strong, impolite rhetoric will spell electoral doom or that utopian ideas based on fantasies will be broadly rejected out of hand.
We like to cherry-pick things, exaggerate their consequence, and then act shocked when the electorate acts like it doesn’t give a damn or actually likes the things we thought they ought to hate. It’s true that the Republicans weren’t thrilled to have Senate candidates calling for Second Amendment solutions to our political differences or assuring us that they are not a witch. They were embarrassed to hear their candidates argue that rape cannot cause pregnancy and that, regardless, God loves rape babies. Those candidates lost winnable seats, but did it really hurt the party in the bigger picture? Did Trump’s insults and sexual assaults and blatant racism hurt him in the bigger picture?
There’s definitely a story in how the country seems to be moving in different directions at light speed. The crack-up of the Republican Party, irrespective of its electoral success, can definitely serve as a cautionary tale for party leaders on the left. But there’s just nothing to really support the idea that the radicalism of the right was anything other than helpful to the right’s electoral recovery from the Bush years.
What we’re seeing, rather, is a new sort of the electorate. Suburbs become blue, red areas get redder. That trade-off just barely worked for Trump and it works great for the Republicans in state legislatures and the House of Representatives. The Democrats need to be mindful of this, and that’s one reason to listen to yourself talk so can hear how something might sound in Brooklyn, Iowa rather than in Brooklyn, New York.
The truth, however, is that people who are fed up will vote for almost any kind of change. Mexico showed that last night, and Donald Trump demonstrated it better than anyone ever could back in 2016.
Then there are the merits. Obama got his health care bill and it didn’t plunge the country into bankruptcy or tyranny. It helped tens of millions of people without fundamentally changing how most of us experience our day to day lives. The apoplexy that fed the Tea Party revolt was based on fairy tales. The apoplexy of the left in response to Trump is shared by the middle, many former Republicans, our Intelligence Community, our foreign policy establishment, and all of our allies.
Given that, any similarity between the radicalization of the right during Obama’s presidency and the radicalization of the left in response to Trump’s is completely superficial.
Thx Martin … excellent, great stuff. I called the SCOTUS decision on asylum seekers and the resignation of Kennedy a watershed moment for America. Indeed, a sea change for decades. The mid-term election will be momentous for Freedom in America. Individual freedom can never be wagered for the collective AmericaFirst! of the Trumpistas. NEVER!
May the nations of the European Union grow a spine and tell bully Trump a piece of their mind.
○ The EU is dead by IdiotSavant @EuroTrib on Jul 2nd, 2018
Something you could have considered when you were campaigning for him throughout 2017.
Ah, of course. Any tool at hand to drive that wedge.
An inspiring first speech by Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador addressing his supporters from his campaign headquarters in Mexico City:
○ Mexico election results: López Obrador vows profound change after win | BBC News |
○ Leftist is victor in Mexican vote | The Globe & Mail |
Mexico, a new revolution …
○ Sick of corruption and of Trump, voters embrace the maverick leftist Andrés Manuel López Obrador | The New Yorker |
So nalbar, can’t stop your obnoxious behavior? Continue with your abuse of troll ratings?
Don’t worry, I have no shortcoming in determination. This is my community too.
I was going to ignore it Oui, but you seem to not have very sincere intentions here and since i honestly feel you are the one trolling here, i will vote with my consience.
I hope you will behave better on european tribune than you do here.
. . . trolling, certainly meriting the troll-rating. Every time he repeats it.
That it’s a lie is demonstrated by the fact that it’s been explained to oui — by the very folks troll-rating him — that “dissent” is not the reason for the ratings.
Meanwhile, he pretends that abusing the ratings system with unwarranted “2” rather than “1” ratings absolves him of guilt for
his
ongoing
abuse of the ratings.
oui remains the worst, most dishonest hypocrite ever to befoul this place.
. . . disappear with a “0” rating, but thought it better to let his misconduct in violation of the “blog ethics” he repeatedly tries to misuse as a weapon against his perceived enemies remain visible in the record. (Some folks don’t seem to get the concept that what you do here becomes part of the record.)
Gish galopping is not dissent, off topic postings to annoy people is trolling.
. . . not “0”) and justified.
Thank you, Booman. And as I recall the Tea Party movement was funded and supported by the Koch Bros.
All we hear is how Tea Party types can say and do anything they damned well please, truly unthinkable things, and it will help their election prospects, maintain their base, etc.
Let any Democrat let out a squeak, and they are going to lose, they will offend voters (OMG), they’re too radical, etc. The thousands who protested on Saturday, including us, weren’t out there because we want Democrats to tip toe around the issues. We are terrified of the radical right that has veered into honest-to-god fascism land. We want Democrats to stand tall and strong for basic principles of justice, compassion, equality, the environment……
Another key difference is:
The NYT, WP, etc. INSISTED the Tea Party were just “humble, apolitical, Americans concerned about deficits” and Tut tutted anyone who said otherwise until the 2010 midterms were finalized then they “discovered” the next day nope, just life long Republican organizers given millions in dark money to deal out Campaigns-In-A-Box to anyone with a pulse supported by free coverage from FoxNews and its TV personalities.
Now the NYT, WP, etc. are reporting on a mythical “radical left” pre-election like they SHOULD have covered the Tea Party pre-election, but didn’t. More disingenuously even because, for example, they are turning ONE fucking house seat primary result in a Democratic stronghold, in Brooklyn, NY, into the equivalent of the Cuban revolutionary army marching on Havana in 1959.
The one similarity is these are media editorial decisions made a high levels designed to shape a narrative to force a desired outcome.
The NYT and Washington Post have been at cross-purposes with Democrats for a long time. They are not on our side.
You write:
Sadly Tien Le, the salient word in that sentence is “our.” The same goes for Booman’s title.
Who is “us,” exactly?
Looking at this blog over the past several years?
Looking at the media in general?
Damned if I know.
It is quite plain that both the NY Times and Washington Post are against both Trumpist forces and the true progressive wing of the Democratic Party. So…on whose side are they?
And once again, the answer is fairly clear.
They are “on the side” of the corporate-owned establishment duopoly, be it nominally Democratic or or Republican. When Republicans cooperate with Trump…for quite understandable reasons of simple political survival if you take away any thought whatsoever of “morality”…they are the bad guys. When Democrats ally themselves with say Bernie Sanders, they are also the enemy, although since the Democrats did a much better job of isolating their left wing from potential power than did the Republicans of isolating their right wing, the neocentrist media can be much more…subtle…with the Sandernistas. “Oh…they mean well, of course, but it’s obvious that they have no chance whatsoever of coming to power!!! Such nice people though. What a shame. What a waste!!!”
The center holds power by dissing those that are not part of its plans. It is, however, in the midst of a potentially seriously blown inning. Unless there are some real home runs hit in November…and from what I have been seeing they are not very likely…the game may well be over.
Trump 7, Everybody Else, 2.
I hope I’m wrong.
I just spent a couple of week simmersed in Red Country, U.S.A., mostly the Eastern Pennsylvania area thereof. The last time I did that, I came back predicting a Trump win. Everybody and his brother on the progressive and neocentrist sides of the Democratic fence thought I was crazy. I wasn’t. I read “ANGER!!!”
This time?
I read “exhaustion.”
The centrist/right wing news still pours out of the TVs in the Dunkin’ Donuts and such, but the volume has been turned down and nobody seems to be paying much attention. Life goes on. They’ve heard enough. They are more in a sort of party mood. Pro-Trump or anti-Trump, and everyplace in between. I was shocked late Saturday night…around midnight…when I drove through a smallish city, a fairly newly-rebounded-from-semi-collapse-on-the-Rust-Belt-model kind of city. It used to be basically closed up after about 10:30PM except for maybe a few serious drinker’s bars, but this time the long main street was lit up and cars were parked everywhere!!!
I felt the same thing in a jazz club where i have played for many years. A bigger crowd, more responsive to the music.
Hmmmmm…
Short of a serious emergency in this country before November…Trumped up, CIA-created or real…I don’t think that the right, center or left is going to pour out in unprecedented numbers. The right already thinks that it has won; the left is feeling…well, it’s feeling beaten up by its own party, truth be told…and the center is sick of hearing all of the yelling.
Like dat.
My sample size may be too small this time…last time I drove hundreds of miles with short stops through NJ, eastern PA, southwestern NY right on up to Rochester and then back down through central NY to NYC. This time…straight through rural-ish NJ into rural eastern PA and a longer stay. But that’s the smell I’m getting outside of largely Hispanic areas like the Bronx neighborhoods that were the heart of Ocasio-Lopez’s upset win over Crowley. I have long held that bilingual Spanish people with fairly recent generational roots in Central and South America are overall much less likely to be hypnotized by the mainstream trance-media than are single language U.S people whose families have been here for a number of generations.
Maybe they will be our saviours.
I sure as hell hope so, because it’s beginning to look like we’re gonna need some.
Soon!!!
Later…
AG
” I have long held that bilingual Spanish people with fairly recent generational roots in Central and South America are overall much less likely to be hypnotized by the mainstream trance-media than are single language U.S people whose families have been here for a number of generations.”
I agree with that observation. A lot of people in my neighborhood fit that description.
I wrote above:
“The same goes for Booman’s title.”
it should have been:
“The same goes for the title of your comment.”
Sorry…
AG.
The above is now a standalone article.
A Tired Middle America. SO Tired…
Please comment there.
Thank you…
AG
Let’s also add that the Tea Party “movement” was a phony astroturfed concoction whose magnitude was never quantified and was grossly magnified by the complicit corporate media, which is now tut-tutting over the enraged language of an ACTUAL grassroots movement, uprising, call it what you will.
As the 21st Century American civil war gains momentum, it is likely true that the two Brooklyns will not be able to stand each other, or coexist in a unified political entity. They no longer have any common political ground as citizens, since Brooklyn, IA is now hostile to democracy and believes its votes should count more than the votes of Brooklyn, NY. (As an aside, I see that IA was clobbered by global warming induced severe storms/flooding this weekend, not that they can add 2+2.)
There was never a rational basis to go apeshit over Obama and his proposals, other than the fact that he was a negro–and a non-citizen, which was what the white male tricorn hat-wearing and fife-playing was all about. Federal regulation of (demonstrably abusive) health insurers? Not really an existential issue for the republic, and when framed properly, not one for which even a Tea Partier could explain his opposition.
Opposition to Der Trumper? I think you laid it out rather well!
The problem, as always in democratic politics, is that the lamebrained low-info “independents” are more likely to be terrified of progressive rhetoric than reactionary rhetoric. They are more comfortable with the (failed) past. The Repubs’ current Atrocity of the Year is brutal and inhumane immigration enforcement, which is the only “accomplishment” keeping Der Trumper’s approval rating above 40%. Brutality and retribution is what every Trump voter (The 46%) wants.
So a progressive rhetoric of “Abolish ICE!” certainly calls the question for FailedNation, Inc. It’s quite likely that Team Trumper is delighted with the enraged call to abolish the GICEtapo. So the battle has been joined over the issue that Trumpism needlessly forced upon the country, and which has finally ignited the civil war. This will be made the issue of the mid-terms.
The problem with civil wars is that is it very difficult to predict the victors, even from a ringside seat. The Tea Party was seen to have cost the Repubs the senate in 2012 as I recall, and it was only in 2014 that the loathsome anti-American McConnell was installed.
The big difference between the Tea Party and the Democratic Socialists is that the Democratic Socialists are not saddling the Democrats with unelectable candidates like the Tea Party did. Ocasio-Cortez actually seems more inspirational than Crowley was and is in a safe seat anyway .
Even in the non-socialist liberal department, Kara Eastman might be somewhat less likely to win than Brad Ashford was, but it’s not clear given than Clinton did almost as well as Ashford did and in any case Clinton’s narrow loss indicated Eastman certainly might win in 2018.
What else would you expect from the infotainment media?
Intimidation works.
If either paper does a one sided article that calls out Republicans in any way, FOX reacts, then Trump reacts, and said paper is inundated with death threats.
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Indeed, and as we saw late last week, those death threats to media outfits get taken VERY SERIOUSLY by some of these 2d Amendment Gun Nuts.
Ergo… proceed at your own peril… literally.
There are always those who think the present moment is sacrosanct and they’re usually right. The past is the best predictor of the future most of the time. But certain moments in history are pregnant with change and this is one of those moments.
I see in this new youth movement on the left a real potential to transform our politics. The name makes it a target for the right but in a way that’s good because this is a “fuck you” and “fuck it” movement, one that boldly announces its goals and challenges its opponents.
It’s a movement that strikes at some basic assumptions in
American society, including the notion that we’re atomized beings, each solely responsible for our own destiny. It speaks for equality of opportunity, which is a deeply American principle, while challenging allegedly American principles (like “each for him/herself”). It can begin a dialog in places overtaken by the international economy and by drug epidemics and say, “Take a chance on something new.” It can unite people by demonstrating that the mass of men and women are struggling and we can work together to lessen suffering.
Polyanna? I don’t think so. Quite realistic actually. Just requires a willingness to work together. This may be the generation that takes on the challenge, not entirely unlike the so-called “great generation” that took on the Great Depression and WWII.
“It’s a movement that strikes at some basic assumptions in American society, including the notion that we’re atomized beings, each solely responsible for our own destiny.”
And this was a foundational premise of early movement conservatism, initially seeded during the Reagan “revolution” when minorities, the poor and everyone else where told to “pull yourself up by your own bootstraps” and “real Americans” were (romantically) rugged individualist cowboys responsible only for themselves, and that it was anti-American for public resources to be used for the collective good. This was the justification for cutting funding and programs, to fund tax cuts that served the wealthy.
So now we got people instinctually thinking, I don’t want “my” tax dollars to go for someone else’s health care, for example. Never mind the fact that they’re not getting good health care if any at all themselves being rugged individualists. But hey, they’re real Americans, and that’s all that matters!
Thanks. Good post and comments.
To be redundant to some of the comments already:
The Tea Baggers were/are a wholly-owned subsidiary of Koch “Family” Industries. They were never ever the “organic” uprising, as was initially presented. Koch brothers paid for their dupes/marks to attend their stupid rallies and to protest that Blackity Black BLACK!!!!! Obama at all of those very uncivil Town Halls in the summer of 2009.
The Tea Party serves as a goad on the right to push things ever closer to fascism, whilst giving the .001% and corporations tax cut after tax cut. They gin up their dupes/marks by enabling them to be racist shitholed assholes, which these racist shitholed assholes seem to love. Go figure.
The burgeoning forces on the left are leaning Democratic Socialist, I believe, mainly because, imo, the Democratic party has abandoned left-leaning principles and actions in order to suck up to and coddle their corporate doners. So where else is the real left supposed to go?
These forces, like Occupy before it, are truly “organic,” and certainly NOT bought and paid for by some rich Sugar Daddies, and, indeed, the Democratic Party really doesn’t like them much (either Occupy or Democratic Socialists) because it either forces them to lean more left-ish and/or to change their ways, which they don’t want to do. Less money for them from their corporate patrons.
I’m on the fence about wholesale abolishment of ICE. Speaking only for myself, I feel that ICE certainly needs to be reigned in and made to be MUCH more accountable. I understand why people are calling to abolish it, however, as it’s doing an execrable job.
Eh? The so-called “media” in this country will forever fellate anything on the right, whilst inordinately finding fault with and dissing anything on the left. It’s because the media is owned by some segment of the 400 super wealthy families who run the show here in these Yew Knighted States. Let’s get real. They don’t want want the peons to have ANY power AT ALL. NONE.
The first thing to remember is what is the goal, primarily, of organizations like the Times and Post. It is no longer the Jeffersonian goal of contributing to an informed electorate.
These organizations, and others like them, exist to make a profit, and their first goal is to entertain, not inform. The situation is very similar to that of private health insurance corporations, whose first goal is profit, with health care a distant second. The level of ignorance of the electorate, and the lack of access to health care, are features, not bugs.
It’s no coincidence the Post and Times came up with these stories at the same time. The right, from the top of the GOP down to the toothless diner dweller in No Pot to Piss in Hollow, have all been saying the same thing: give the man a break, with the premise being all these negative stories on Trump are made up by democrats and indication that Trump is being “picked on.” The owners like what they’re getting with Trump but don’t like the attention brought about by openly siding with white supremacists, putting children in cages, Russia/Putin, and a recent past of cavorting with and paying off prostitutes coming to light. They can’t control him so they want the press to whitewash his impact and what he does, and no better way to do that is put the spotlight on the other side and make them equally responsible.
“Civility” is the answer, and the Times and Post reach into their respective journalism as entertainment cesspools for both-siderist story templates to equate democrats/progressives standing up to Trump with the ugly rhetoric that has emanated from the right for years that created this current climate. You can almost sense a sigh of relief, and maybe even a little glee on the part of the Post and Times. They now have a basis for blaming democrats as equally responsible for all the Trump has wrought, and kill two birds with one stone: slap democrats even though they have little power or influence, and whitewash Trump and the GOP as targets of “incivility.” A two-fer.
The danger here is that the average low-information, too focused on Kim Kardashian to care voter will hear the “both sides” mantra and then “know” that all the negative reporting on Trump is not that he’s that bad, and dangerously so, but that this is the normal politics as usual, a pox on both houses, political back and forth.
. . . which Scott at LGM read so you don’t have to (with assists outsourced to Jessica Valenti, Ian Milhiser, and Michelle Wolf).
Trust me, you want to click that link, even if the only thing you pay attention to there is the embedded Michelle Wolf video. Do. Not. Skip. That.
You’ll thank me.