History is more an art than a science which becomes clear when you realize that it rhymes without ever quite repeating itself. We can read some strikingly similar stanzas when we go back to a rough time period in Richard Nixon’s second term and compare it to what Donald Trump is currently careening through in his first.
The following is from Hunter S. Thompson’s September 1973 feature for Rolling Stone entitled Fear and Loathing at the Watergate: Nixon Has Cashed His Check.
One of the most extraordinary aspects of the Watergate story has been the way the press has handled it: What began in the summer of 1972 as one of the great media-bungles of the century has developed, by now, into what is probably the most thoroughly and most professionally covered story in the history of American journalism.
When I boomed into Washington last month to meet Steadman and set up the National Affairs Desk once again, I expected — or in retrospect I think I expected — to find the high-rolling newsmeisters of the capital press corps jabbering blindly among themselves, once again, in some stylish sector of reality far-removed from the Main Nerve of “the story” … like climbing aboard Ed Muskie’s Sunshine Special in the Florida primary and finding every media star in the nation sipping Bloody Marys and convinced they were riding the rails to Miami with “the candidate” … or sitting down to lunch at the Sioux Falls Holiday Inn on election day with a half-dozen of the heaviest press wizards and coming away convinced that McGovern couldn’t possibly lose by more than ten points.
My experience on the campaign trail in 1972 had not filled me with a real sense of awe, vis-a-vis the wisdom of the national press corps … so I was seriously jolted, when I arrived in Washington, to find that the bastards had this Watergate story nailed up and bleeding from every extremity — from “Watergate” and all its twisted details, to ITT, the Vesco case, Nixon’s lies about the financing for his San Clemente beach-mansion, and even the long-dormant “Agnew Scandal.”
I’m still fairly frustrated with the superficial understanding of the Russia scandal displayed by a lot of commentators and even some decent reporters, but there’s no doubt that the media has picked up their game since they largely dropped the ball during the election year. The president is truly bleeding from every extremity at this point and the FBI and Justice Department are considerably more dedicated to getting to the rotten bottom of things than they were during Watergate.
You can hear an echo of House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes in Thompson’s description of Florida Senator Edward Gurney, a freshman in 1973 who would barely outlast Nixon before resigning in the face of a seven-count indictment for influence peddling. In this excerpt, he’s trying to impugn the credibility of Watergate witness and former White House counsel John Dean:
Jesus, this waterhead Gurney again! You’d think the poor bugger would have the sense to not talk anymore … but no, Gurney is still blundering along, still hammering blindly at the receding edges of Dean’s “credibility” in his now-obvious role as what Frank Reynolds and Sam Donaldson on ABC-TV both described as “the waterboy for the White House.”
Gurney appears to be deaf; he has a brain like a cow’s udder. He asks his questions — off the typed list apparently furnished him by Minority (GOP) counsel, Fred J. Thompson — then his mind seems to wander, his eyes roam lazily around the room while Thompson whispers industriously in his ear, his hands shuffle papers distractedly on the table in front of his microphone … and meanwhile, Dean meticulously chews up his questions and hands them back to him in shreds; so publicly mangled that their fate might badly embarrass a man with good sense …
But Gurney seems not to notice: His only job on this committee is to Defend the Presidency, according to his instructions from the White House — or at least whatever third-string hangerson might still be working there — and what we tend to forget, here, is that it’s totally impossible to understand Gurney’s real motives without remembering that he’s the Republican Senator from Florida, a state where George Wallace swept the Democratic primary in 1972 with 78% of the vote, and which went 72% for Nixon in November.
In a state where even Hubert Humphrey is considered a dangerous radical, Ed Gurney’s decision to make an ignorant yahoo of himself on national TV makes excellent sense — at least to his own constituency. They are watching TV down in Florida today, along with the rest of the country, and we want to remember that if Gurney appears in Detroit and Sacramento as a hideous caricature of the imbecilic Senator Cornpone — that’s not necessarily the way he appears to the voters around Tallahassee and St. Petersburg.
Everything about that rings true from the impossibility of understanding the behavior of Republican members of Congress without realizing that a white nationalist carried their state or district (often in a landslide) to the fact that no one is left in the White House but “third-string hangerson” to that bit about having a brain like a cow’s udder.
It was clear by the summer of 1973 that Nixon’s chances of surviving were becoming very sketchy indeed, and likewise Trump is starting to look truly vulnerable for the first time.
Cazart! The fat is approaching the fire — very slowly, and in very cautious hands, but there is no ignoring the general drift of things. Sometime between now and the end of 1973, Richard Nixon may have to bite that bullet he’s talked about for so long. Seven is a lucky number for gamblers, but not for fixers, and Nixon’s seventh crisis is beginning to put his first six in very deep shade. Even the most conservative betting in Washington, these days, has Nixon either resigning or being impeached by the autumn of ’74 — if not for reasons directly connected to the “Watergate scandal,” then because of his inability to explain how he paid for his beach-mansion at San Clemente, or why Vice President Agnew — along with most of Nixon’s original White House command staff — is under indictment for felonies ranging from Extortion and Perjury to Burglary and Obstruction of Justice.
Things are coming at Trump fast now, with emoluments reaching the charts for the first time yesterday, his former fixer looking to reprise John Dean’s role, his former campaign manager about to begin the first of two doomed trials, and the Southern District of New York hauling his finance chief before a grand jury. He’s getting caught in his big lies on an almost daily basis now, with his feigned ignorance of hush payments to ex-girlfriends and foreknowledge of collusion-rich meetings with Kremlin emissaries turning to ash in his mouth.
At least when Nixon went to China he didn’t tell the world that all our differences were due to stupid Americans and that Mao Zedong was far more credible than CIA director Richard Helms and the rest of the Deep State goons working in our intelligence and law enforcement agencies. Tricky Dick was a paranoid thug but half the country wasn’t convinced with good reason that he was a helpless agent of a foreign power.
Deep Throat aside, most of the establishment was reluctant to think the worst of Nixon. At this point, you can almost pick any former high-ranking intelligence officer you want and find them quoted as suspecting Trump of treason. Even Fox News generals are quitting while accusing the president of being “a slave to Putin.”
So, no things are not exactly the same as they were in 1973. Back then, the country was watching Congress hold hearings and steadily losing faith in the administration. If we have hearings this time, they’ll probably have to wait until next year. But in every other way, Trump is in a weaker position than Nixon was a year before he was forced to resign. Nixon had just won by one the biggest margins in American history, while Trump lost the popular vote and is still arguing about the size of his minuscule inaugural crowd. Nixon had showed competence and even excellence in several areas during his administration, while Trump stumbles from one self-inflicted disaster to another. Nixon had loyal soldiers lining up to take a bullet for him, but Trump is now virtually alone.
What Trump has that Nixon did not is Republican majorities in Congress. That is the only thing propping him up. If he loses that advantage (and maybe even if he doesn’t), he’ll be cashing his check.
His roots are thoroughly rotted out and all that should be required now is the strong breeze provided by Manafort’s trial, Cohen’s evidence, Mueller’s report, and some Democratic committee chairs to help make sense of it all.
Pitch perfect, Booman. One of your very best.
And the cherry on top is this.
I have seen people say Maria Butina is cooperating. I don’t know if that’s true, but if so, lots of people are in big trouble. When Russian intelligence interacts with westerners, it prioritizes developing leverage on them. Thus, Butina probably has lots of evidence to support spilling the beans. And Torshin has been pumping lots of money into GOP players like Wayne LaPierre.
This just in.
So she was cooperating before her arrest in the fraud case against Paul Erickson. Does that mean she would cooperate post arrest regarding anything else? Unclear.
As a general rule, people tend to be more cooperative after their arrest than they were before. Maybe the feds didn’t think she was being cooperative enough.
Here is another excellent article on Butina and her history.
Did not realize that Butina’s gun rights group has existed since 2011. Clearly a front.
SOrry, I formulated that wrong.
Did not realize that Butina’s gun rights group has existed since 2011. Clearly a front.
. . . 5 times now trying to figure out the point of the second, and I still end up at . . .
. . . hunh?
Yes!!!
Precisely.
It is becoming increasingly clear that Trump has only one real card left to play.
But it’s a biggie.
Watch.
Any day now.
Aaaaaany day now…
AG
P.S. Provided of course that the generals and the other deep statesters would allow it to happen. I think it’s a tossup. War is what generals do, but failed wars? Wars that don’t work?
Maybe they’ve had enough of those.
And enough of Trump as well.
I hope so.
That old ’60s meme?
Modernized?
Let us pray.
Considering what it took for the Bush Administration, including Colin Powell sacrificing his career and legacy in front of the UN, to invade Iraq I highly doubt President Stupid and his small gang of nitwits could pull off starting a preemptive war.
“His” Generals know that right now the U.S. military is not up to opening another major offensive front. His supporters are more interested in “winning” the cultural war here than being embarrassed by another “Mission Accomplished!” moment.
Mr Trump doesn’t know how to do war.
It’s not clear at all how much the leadership of the military would go along anyway. I presume 100%, but they would need some kind of outline or direction from the Wolfsschanze. Without that, you get more Syrian cruise missile jokes.
Mr Trump is a coward. War puts him at personal risk.
His base is not interested in a real recession, casualties in a place they don’t understand, and most of all, defeat.
See my reply below.
AG
Out of weapons? Trump might try anything. He is so driven by his own demons that he could quite possibly be suicidal, but that kind of endgame would not be by his own hand. He is too dementedly proud to admit any defeat.
But…the meme “Suicide by cop” comes to mind.
Like dat.
I hope you’re right.
AG
As long as he keeps the base and doesn’t publically embarrass them (see Palin, Sarah) Trump is probably the first U.S. President facing a much more powerful and lucrative career if he is either impeached and removed; resigns; or loses re-election than if he serves a full eight years.
Conservative voters and the right wing media has too much need for a I-Didn’t-Fail-America-Failed-ME! conservative white male resentment martyr.
Otherwise, I’m still betting if Mueller shows up with handcuffs he’ll most likely just grab Ivanka and take the midnight flight to a non-extradition country OR pull an Assange and hole up in an embassy to rage tweet about being a President in Exile and victim of the Deep State.
You write:
If things happen along that line?
There’d be hell to pay!!!
Maybe even civil insurrections.
Mueller knows this. That’s one reason why he’s being so…careful. He has a fine line to draw here…real criminality combined with the minimum domestic political danger. Taking money from interested parties…not necessarily politically interested parties (domestic or foreign), just payoffs for favors, be it from mob bosses, casino interests, supposedly straight ahead (Ahem!!!) corporate interests and/or other countries.
It’s the payoffs that should count, not the payees!!!
I can see the bestselling book now.
2019/2020 or thereabouts:
Let us pray it so.
AG
P.S. Oops!!!
Too late…
As so often happens, you guys are leaving US INTELLIGENCE out of the question. Trump will not be able to start a war.
Note that my informative link on the history of Butina’s “Russian NRA” (on this thread) is from the Voice of America. Some of you may see that as a disqualifier. On the contrary, it shows how keenly interested US Intel is in this whole issue. As they should be.
it is true that in the lead up to the Iraq War the CIA was not really on board either, and Cheney relied on his own personal “Team B” cronies to cherry pick and falsify intelligence. That ain’t gonna happen this time. The equivalent now is the Giuliani faction of the FBI, Fox NEws, etc., but though fighting desperately, they are outgunned. It’s not going to work.
Yes. Charles Davis had a good piece yesterday with that reminder:
Yes, thanks so much for this, and Davis says it very well. Exactly the point I’m trying make. It should not be overlooked as our national showdown continues.
The biggest difference for me is that the aftermath of Nixon’s resignation was the bumbling co-dependent in crisis Gerald Ford made a hash of his remaining time in the White House. This time the ‘dangerous radical’ is the highly electable Pence.
Still think DT will start a war rather than resign. Nixon didn’t suffer from debilitating Narcissistic Personality Disorder. DT will do whatever it takes to avoid being thought of as not deserving of the office, or that he somehow came to illegally. Starting a war is his only option. He’s unhinged enough to do it, too.
See my reply above.
AG
I’ll believe it when I see it.
I lived through Watergate… I remember.
Reading Elizabeth Drew’s and Jimmy Breslin’s conversations with GOP reps and senators back then, and comparing them with today, there is a level of investment in Trump that I don’t think Nixon ever could have elicited.
Nixon after all only saved the nation from Humphrey, and
MuskieMcGovern.Trump saved the nation from far, far worse.
First him. Then her.
How much more damage could the republic have absorbed? Sure, some extreme measures may have been necessary, not so much regrettable as necessary and commendable.
Existential threat. Flight 93 election.
There was no alternative. Any means necessary.
Tout comprendre c’est tout pardonner.
At a minimum, though, we’ll need to survive the “Collusion? So what? ” phase first.
I hope Boo’s right, of course, but I fear he’s delusional, continuing to believe the Republicans have any integrity whatsoever.
They’re trying to purge Rosenstein now and moving on to the narrative that “Actually collusion is good”.
Trump’s not going anywhere.
Molly Hemingway:
I’ve always felt Boo’s outlook on this is completely wrong, heh heh, or as you put it, delusional. Why?
First, what you said about Repubs with integrity. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You’ll find one when you find successfully conclude a snipe hunt.
I’d add to what makes this entirely different from 73-74 at least in terms of projected outcome:
As such, the only way the Popular Vote Loser leaves office is on a gurney if he strokes out or in 2021 when he loses the election…again.
I should add that the Popular Vote Loser’s world view is best shown by his “shooting someone on 5th Ave” comment.
He knows he can get away with murder, all the rest of this stuff is petty, again in his world view, by comparison.
Another quote that sums it up nicely:
“Consequences, shmonsequences, as long as I’m rich.”
Alas, we have no genie to shrink the Popular Vote Loser to 4″ in height.
I careen back and forth from all is lost to just maybe we really are seeing the beginning of what should be for the great narcissist a justifiably ignominious and embarrassing end, tiny hands and all.
And when Trump finally cashes it in, I hope there is a big fat check waiting for the GOP itself to cash. The party’s approach as an institution thus far has been to ignore its constitutional duty and burn down our institutions in order to circle the wagons around Trump, even as actions create one security risk after another, clearly betraying his trust as President. Meanwhile we have individual members of Congress, Nunes in particular, who appear to be more than complicit in Trump’s obstruction efforts. he definitely deserves a check.
See my link up thread. Search on this page “cherry on top” .
A small perhaps could be something the Country has this time that it didn’t with Nixon. We have a Rep majority that could easily be said to be poised to lose it’s biggest dreams come true. Control. Each member of Congress is looking either personally at a substantial challenge or over their shoulder at a ’20 challenge and it feels personal.
People are quick to call the Nixon era Rep’s as those with a spine and Trump’s spineless, but whatever the condition of their spine, this midterm is going to be personal and that’s when personal survival kicks in.
I have no doubt the Russians will go full bore at us. They have as much to lose, if not more, as the Rep’s. I wish Alex Jones’ page had been suspended until after the election.
In both cases, the Worse-Than-Useless Corporate Media (though not yet quite so useless or so corporate in ’72) were guilty of gross dereliction of their 4th Estate constitutional duty when it most mattered, i.e., in those two summers leading up to immensely consequential elections.
With catastrophic results in both cases.
Only after which they started (mostly) professionally fulfilling the function of a free press, for which the founders gave them, unique among secular institutions, their very own protective clause in the 1st Amendment.
Something about a barn door . . . horses.
I’m glad Boo added the caveat that any check cashing will depend on dems controlling at least some of the relevant committees. Without that, in the current media environment, none of the rest matters. With that, anything is possible.
So, as in 2016, it will come down to the voters across the country. Will they show some wisdom this time around? I’d like to hope so. I can’t give it better than even odds though.
A similar argument from earlier this year:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/michael-cohen-and-the-end-stage-of-the-trump-presidency