There are some things in Ross Douthat’s latest column that I at least partially agree with, which is rarity for me. I’m pleased that he so readily acknowledges that the center-left has no contemporary partner or even potential partner on the center-right due to the Republicans’ complete abandonment of the centrism as both a matter of preference and strategy. I think he’s mostly correct when he says that the Democrats’ lurch to the left on cultural issues has left a lot of potential votes on the cutting room floor. He’s making a fairly unassailable point when he argues that “if the center-left abdicates, [Brad] DeLong-style, on economic policy, the Democratic Party as a whole will have moved to the left on every front.”
When Douthat mentions Brad DeLong, he’s referring to this recent statement made on Twitter where DeLong basically passed the economic policy baton to the progressive left:
On the center … those like me in what used to proudly call itself the Rubin Wing of the Democratic Party — so-called after former Treasury Secretary Bob Rubin, and consisting of those of us hoping to use market means to social democratic ends in bipartisan coalition with Republicans seeking technocratic win-wins — have passed the baton to our left. Over the past 25 years, we failed to attract Republican coalition partners, we failed to energize our own base, and we failed to produce enough large-scale obvious policy wins to cement the center into a durable governing coalition. We blame cynical Republican politicians. We blame corrupt and craven media bosses and princelings. We are right to blame them, but shared responsibility is not diminished responsibility. And so the baton rightly passes to our colleagues on our left. We are still here, but it is not our time to lead.
I also have sympathy for what Douthat says here about the Democrats abandoning the cultural center:
Because the country as a whole has also shifted left since 2000, that kind of writing-off will not prevent the Democrats from winning elections; it probably won’t prevent them from beating Donald Trump. But it will stand in the way of any dramatic left-of-center consolidation, any kind of more-than-temporary Democratic governance.
I’ve made many of these same points in recent years, although I come to them from a completely different perspective.
More than my point of agreement, however, I want to focus on where I do not agree. I don’t think the Democratic Party has drifted away from centrism for ideological reasons or even for any kind of concerted or wholly conscious reason. The party just hasn’t held that many vulnerable seats in recent years because they were decimated in the 2010 and 2014 midterms. The Republicans just experienced the same thing in 2018. Centrism isn’t something people come to naturally–it’s more of a survival mechanism. It works fairly well when both parties have a lot of vulnerable members. When neither party has a lot of vulnerable members, it doesn’t work it at all.
The problem for centrism in contemporary America is that the two parties are too ideologically distinct and internally coherent for there to be any meaningful cross-pollination of ideas or common agendas. We can barely keep the government open.
In the 2018 midterms, a lot of vulnerable Democrats were elected, which might create an opening for a normal Republican administration. The problem is that Trump burns bridges faster than anyone can build them, and he has salted the fields. He isn’t even trying to drive a wedge into the Democratic caucus, so it’s hard to see how any Democrats could even consider working with him.
The Democratic Party has an opening to claim more of the center. We can already identify small blocs of Republicans in both the House and the Senate who are voting with the Democrats now on a semi-regular basis. They could focus on expanding the universe of vulnerable Republican seats, but they don’t seem inclined to make that a priority right now. The Democrats are also being pulled by their base, and the base seems convinced that more can get done with smaller majorities so long as those majorities are more passionate and committed. I’ve never found this to be true, and never more so than now when the opposition in implacable and unmovable.
The truth is, I don’t find centrism very appealing but I do acknowledge that our form of government doesn’t really function without it. But I don’t worry too much about ideology because I realize that everything comes down to raw numbers and raw power. A bigger Democratic caucus will have more endangered members which means that it will be more moderate. Nonetheless, a bigger Democratic caucus will accomplish more than a smaller one due to the way our legislative system works. What seem broken is that even endangered Republicans don’t deviate very often or very far from the party line, and there are no more progressive Republicans. They’ve abandoned environmentalism. There are no pro-labor Republicans. There are no pro-choice Republicans. So, the old push and pull between the two parties is no longer creating a center where people can come together to hammer out compromises.
That leaves the left with no choice but to pursue a go-it-alone strategy, no matter how impractical or unrealistic that may be. Compromise that is not rewarded has no point. Yet, the Democrats now seem unfettered to some basic realities and limitations inherent in the American system and culture. They still need the same number of votes in Congress, but the only way to get them now is from their own side. That argues against ideological self-policing and in favor of heterodoxy. I say this not because I want heterodoxy for its own sake. I generally agree with progressive goals and objectives, and I’m easily irritated by Democrats who pander to the right. I say this because Douthat is correct that the way the Democrats are thinking about things will “stand in the way of any dramatic left-of-center consolidation, any kind of more-than-temporary Democratic governance.”
I wish it were not so, but that’s how I see things.
You concede there isn’t another realistic path for the Democrats, so what are you advocating? That Democrats move to the “Center,” whatever that is, just for the sake of doing it? I don’t understand. There needs to be a solution, not just a problem.
And I want to clarify because I don’t mean my comment as hostile. We’ve already agreed that the GOP won’t cooperative no matter what we do. So if the Democratic Party moves to the center just kinda cause don’t we risk losing the enthusiasm that carried the 2018 elections? The mushy middle isn’t inspiring. Just looking for a way out here.
I think it was Jim Hightower that said that “the only things in the middle of the road are yellow lines and dead armadillos.”
what center where?
Who are you allowing to define the “cultural center”? Ross Douthat?
Political analysis over the last decades had followed the general trend of disciplines (which started in linguistics) towards structuralism and internal analysis. While diagramming phenomena has its value, in that it can help to clarify phenomena, it really doesn’t answer the question “why.” More emphasis needs to be given to the response of voters to actual world conditions.
You do this towards the end where you say “there are no more progressive Republicans. They’ve abandoned environmentalism. There are no pro-labor Republicans. There are no pro-choice Republicans.” But even here the main thrust is structural and internal: “the old push and pull between the two parties is no longer creating a center where people can come together to hammer out compromises.” True, but why has this happened? Polarization. But that’s just a tautology. Why this polarization?
I agree that the reason the Democratic party “has drifted away from centrism” is not really ideological. But it isn’t fully explained by structural phenomena between the two parties. The deeper reason it is happening is because voters are responding to real-world conditions. It’s more like the center has drifted away from Democratic voters.
Remember that old saying “reality has a liberal bias”? The GOP alternative is, “there is no reality, only perception of reality.” But the fallacy is that perception, as varied as it may be, ultimately depends on reality. If not, there would be no reason for perception. The biological purpose of perception is to allow organisms to go towards what they need and away from what hurts them. In the long run, accurate perception is literally a matter of life and death. In other words, bullshit has its limits.
America has always been the land of bullshit (read Melville’s The Confidence Man — the “great American novel.”) But it took a Donald Trump to make most of America finally sit up and take notice. This guy is off the charts, in the worst possible place (White House) at the worst possible time.
At this point, if the Democratic Party is moving toward the center at all, it’s only because of those suburban voters you wrote about yesterday, essentially moderate Republicans but now inclined to vote Democratic because they can’t stomach Trump and his more avid followers.
I’ve read plenty of columns lately saying that the Democratic Party should not to go too far to the radical left because these “radical centrists” won’t like it. But as Krugman correctly points out, there IS no radical left of any significance in this country. Candidates like Sanders, Warren, Ocasio Cortez and lots of new House members are not radical ideologists, they are responding to reality. The republicans are ignorant of or contemptuous of reality. The centrists are responding, but faintly — as in the style of the 1970s or 1980s. But the world of 2019 is seriously AFU. The young people have a much better sense of this.
Remember not very long ago when the centrist Democratic candidate would (supposedly) win as “the lesser of two evils”? Even then that was often a futile proposition, but it sometimes worked. (It definitely didn’t work in 2016.) Now the shoe is on the other foot. If the suburbanite centrists are reluctant to vote for a Democratic candidate who is seriously responding to the issues, they can go back to the Republicans or maybe start their own party. But I don’t think they are going to do that either. They may just wind up having to vote for “the lesser of two evils,” just as they might have voted for FDR in another perilous age.
Amazingly, not a minute after posting this I came across a link to a new piece by William Rivers Pitt in which he says essentially the same thing.
That article makes it clear. The democrats move to the left is simply a necessity whether we are speaking about climate change, health care, the min wage and equality or college education. That is where the center is and where we need to be. Those issues need to be addressed and not in any bi partisan way that simply waters them down. Those issues will define our nation in the years to come. We may need to remake the party before it happens but it starts with killing the filibuster and the green new deal — and fuck the republicans. Vote with them and we will vote you out.
That first sentence is one I have been on about on the blogosphere for as long as there has been a blogosphere. I was very darned young the last time there was some semblance of a radical left that could be considered significant. The conditions behind its decline are something best left for another time, but that is the reality. Sanders, AOC, and Warren are really liberals and little more. Sanders and AOC may want to use the socialist label, but they’d fit in within most Labor or SD parties and would be viewed as relatively centrist within that context. Within our context, they each has offered a needed breath of fresh air. But they are not going to be the ones to smash a capitalist system. If successful, perhaps they can manage to tame capitalism’s worst excesses (of which many of us know all too well).
Labour suffers from precisely this problem. Clause IV, or you’re faking it.
This forces the Democrats to eliminate all obstacles inherent in the separation of powers, merely to get the simplest things done, like pass a moderately progressive budget, or do immigration reform along the lines the party proposed as a compromise with Trump.
This means eliminating the filibuster as job 1 starting in 2021. Then ramming through voting rights acts to reform and eliminate gerrymandering. A bill providing for impartial judicial reform would be necessary too, since the GOP has been stuffing the courts with insane right wing corporatists.
Especially combating Global Warming is going to take extreme measures since Wall Street and the right wing media will be screaming “NO!” at every turn and we just don’t have time left to compromise with them. We’ve already wasted a quarter of a century waiting for a “bipartisan” solution to the problem to emerge, and the GOP is now further than ever from even accepting the need for any action whatever.
There is going to be a “Green New Deal.” The only question is whether we wait another ten years until the problem is unsolveable, and we’re faced with an overwhelming crisis or whether we start taking action now. And taking action now means dealing with the inherent problems of the system – the separation of powers makes everything impossible in the present circumstances.
Two things:
In essence, we should take action ASAP and assume that it is far past time when we can stop further changes.
At this point, we need to be attempting to mitigate what is, slow down what is coming, and prepare for what the human species has set in motion that is coming no matter what we do now.
Not that we should just say fuck it and do nothing, but that we need to get past what I consider a semblance of denial, and realize that even if we turned off all carbon-emitting technologies right now, we’d still see massive climate change continuing for decades/centuries.
It doesn’t help that “the center” is a pretty vague, nebulous term that can contain multitudes. Sometimes I think it boils down to the idea that “extremism” is bad. And it is always the other guys who are extremists. Oh yes, and “extremism” is also a pretty vague term that can be deployed in bizarre ways. None of which is to suggest these things aren’t real in a political sense, but rather there is a strong tendency for people to define them in ways that suit themselves, and they can sometimes get the mass of people (who do not follow poltics closely) to go along with them. Until another person or group manages to redefine the terms another way.
Oh yes, and “extremism” is also a pretty vague term that can be deployed in bizarre ways.
Like the GOP does in calling even the worst of the Blue Dogs Stalin, Lenin, Marx and Castro all rolled into one. That is what the Democratic elite still haven’t figured out yet apparently.
Dems took the House with a strong performance in the suburbs – places Republicans thought they had gerrymandered out of competition. Health care was a top issue. That can be built upon by eliminating the ACA subsidy cap that forces folks making $50k to pay full cost for their insurance. Medicare buy in and a reinsurance program to bring down costs are other things that may be accomplished through budget reconciliation. Real drug pricing reform. Roll back tax cuts for the upper class and put in a tax break for child care. More investments in green technology. Enforcement of environmental regulations. Marijuana legalization. These are just a few things that the “center” will support. Maybe not as sexy as some of the bolder ideas, but practical and doable.
Are these the policies of the center?
— Healthcare: Shore up the ACA
— Income Inequality: $15 minimum wage gradually over 5 to 7 years
— Climate Change: carbon tax credits
— Taxes: keep GOP tax cuts, tinker around edges for middle/working class deductions/credits
— Education: status quo on student loans, college tuition
— Trump: hold hearings but look forward, not back
What with anti-Trump fervor maybe they get past one election cycle but beyond that the democratic party won’t get very far on this. People will get frustrated and it will be 2016 all over again.
Centrism is a holding pattern for GOP rule. Its less an ideology as it is more a strategy of appeasement.
Before LBJ passed Medicare and Medicaid with landslide victories in ’64, almost no health care legislation passed. JFK couldn’t do it. Other attempts never made it off the launching pad. Clinton tried in ’93 and failed. So it took 35 years before Obama’s brief supermajority enabled ACA passage. Social Security when it began was much more limited than what it is today. Overcoming the GOP fear based agenda and the ruling class’s efforts to protect its wealth and power is difficult. Progress is slow and frustrating. But it’s clear that if we slip out of control for even a short period, they’re gonna go backward as fast as they can.
Any time you start out agreeing with Douthat, you’re on your way to trouble. Right-wing liberals like him will always choose a middle-of-the-road party that loses over a progressive left one that wins. It’s funny how lesser evilism, strategic voting, and harm reduction are only ever used to cajole progressive voters to move the center and never for liberals to suck it up and vote left.
Exactly. Douchehat simply concern trolls the left. He’s classic Republican Detachment Disorder stuff.
<blokquote>Right-wing liberals like him
To be clear Douthat is a conservative Republican who would have been quite comfortable in a nation run by President Ted Cruz.
“The center” as defined by him, is probably somewhere to the right of Ronald Reagan, who was a bit too secular for his tastes.
. . . be part of our coalition dedicated to achieving liberal/”progressive” goals that have majority support in the country.