If you were the leader of a country and you discovered that the United States of America had an official policy of regime change with regard to your government, what would you do? If you knew that the CIA was engaged in a secret plan to overthrow you, possibly through assassination, possibly through a military coup, what would you do? If America was committing economic warfare on you and carrying out acts of sabotage within your borders, what would you do?
I had this conversation about Fidel Castro one night with Armando, then of Daily Kos. While he maintained that Castro was always a son-of-a-bitch that was inclined to create a police state and torture his enemies, I suggested that our efforts to invade his country, to kill him, to cause a coup, and to ruin his economy, might just have had a little bit of a role in his decision making processes. If he couldn’t trust his generals, or his cook, or his barber, or that his country wouldn’t be bombed or invaded, then he had little choice but to take drastic measures to protect himself and his country. Reaching out to the Soviets was one way, creating a brutal internal security service was another way.
Many if not all of the things we did or attempted to do to Castro under Eisenhower and Kennedy’s presidencies are currently being done to Iran. And it is having an effect. Iran is in the midst of a crisis and they are resorting to some serious suppression.
The shift is occurring against the backdrop of an economy so stressed that although Iran is the world’s second-largest oil exporter, it is on the verge of rationing gasoline. At the same time, the nuclear standoff with the West threatens to bring new sanctions.
The hard-line administration of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, analysts say, faces rising pressure for failing to deliver on promises of greater prosperity from soaring oil revenue.
This next part gets to my point about echoes of Cuba.
[The Iranian government] has been using American support for a change in government as well as a possible military attack as a pretext to hound his opposition and its sympathizers.
Some analysts describe it as a “cultural revolution,” an attempt to roll back the clock to the time of the 1979 revolution, when the newly formed Islamic Republic combined religious zeal and anti-imperialist rhetoric to try to assert itself as a regional leader.
They are sending thugs out into the street to enforce Islamic dress…making hippies drink from jerrycans that the Iranians use to clean their asses. Everytime the U.S. issues another threat against Iran, the government uses it to justify more suppression. The state is, after all, under threat of attack. Anyone can be on the CIA payroll. All dissent is potentially paid for by Americans. No one’s loyalty is beyond suspicion.
I do not mean to imply that this suppression is primarily America’s fault. Iran’s government is truly odious. Their behavior is beyond the pale. Anyone that cares a whit about human rights should be totally appalled.
The country’s police chief boasted that 150,000 people — a number far larger than usual — were detained in the annual spring sweep against any clothing considered not Islamic. More than 30 women’s rights advocates were arrested in one day in March, according to Human Rights Watch, five of whom have since been sentenced to prison terms of up to four years. They were charged with endangering national security for organizing an Internet campaign to collect more than a million signatures supporting the removal of all laws that discriminate against women.
Eight student leaders at Tehran’s Amir Kabir University, the site of one of the few public protests against Mr. Ahmadinejad, disappeared into Evin Prison starting in early May. Student newspapers had published articles suggesting that no humans were infallible, including the Prophet Muhammad and Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
The nastiness of the Iranian government is beyond question but, lest you think this latest crackdown has no relationship to American actions, look at what the leader had to say on the matter.
Analysts trace the broadening crackdown to a March speech by Ayatollah Khamenei, whose pronouncements carry the weight of law. He warned that no one should damage national unity when the West was waging psychological war on Iran. The country has been under fire, particularly from the United States, which accuses it of trying to develop nuclear weapons and fomenting violence in Iraq.
Why this requires a new campaign to punish long hair and casual dress is a topic for an anthropologist. When pressed, the Iranians push for more Islamic purity, as though that will offer them a Jerry Falwellesque ‘curtain’ of protection. It’s crazy, but then religious fanatics are crazy. What are you gonna do?
You can’t blame this on the Americans:
The same thing, to a far lesser degree, has happened in Venezuela, where Chavez has responded to an attempted U.S. sponsored coup attempt with a tightening of governmental control. Then we turn around and accuse him of being a dictator, despite the fact he is a duly elected president.
We could get into a bit of a chicken and egg argument about these things. Who was a son-of-a-bitch first?
Rather than try to make some definitive determination about the answer to that question I’d rather focus on the predictability of it all. We target an country that is considered non-business friendly. They increase their internal security measures in response. We point to their increasing repression to justify intervention. They crack down some more. Etc.
This would all be fine if the governments in question were unambiguous evil-doers and we were riding to rescue of their people. We could be saving the poor dirty hippies of Tehran. Right?
Forget it. I’m concerned about the human rights of average Iranians. That’s precisely why I don’t want to bomb them. And I think we should really consider whether all our threats aren’t contributing to this deterioration of human rights there.
You know what I would like, not that my opinion matters? I’d like to see the Iranians rise up and kick out the Council of Guardians and disband all these religious police and have real elections and not have to deal with these nutty clerics. I don’t see that happening anytime soon. And, while I don’t think America should support that outcome through covert means, we certainly shouldn’t undermine that outcome through covert means. And that, I fear, is exactly what we are doing.
We’re meddling in other people’s affairs, and we aren’t meddling ‘smart’.
One last point. The Iranian people overwhelmingly want the capacity to enrich uranium. Go ask the professors, the students, the leftists, the pro-westerners, whomever. It’s a matter of national security and national pride. Even if we had that great free election, the resulting government would still be reluctant and perhaps unwilling to forego the pursuit of nuclear technology. Regime change is not going to fix that.
Gee, BooMan….as the old saying goes: If wishes were horses…
“I’d like to see the Iranians rise up and kick out the Council of Guardians and disband all these religious police and have real elections and not have to deal with these nutty clerics….”
Hell, BooMan, WE Americans aren’t even rising up and kicking anyone out!
That’s “off the table”.
I’m not blaming the Iranian people. They’d be slaughtered if they tried.
And maybe here also.
There are thousand varieties on this joke.
Whichever way you tell the joke, the lesson remains. Making waves usually fills your mouth with shit. Successful revolutions are extremely rare.
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The US and Britain sending thugs into Iran for terror raids.
Halliburton establishes HQ in Dubai to escape US laws and oversight in dealing with a.o. Iran.
The US invaded Iranian consulate to jail its citizens – Iranian reprisal .
Iran failed to capture Australian sailors before succeeding with the British.
Turkey and Iran will use military force to contain the PKK terrorists in Kurdish North Iraq.
Not surprising the Saudis send money and military support into the Sunni sector of Iraq and the Iranians do the same with the Shia majority in the eastern sector.
● The Redirection
Is the Administration’s new policy benefitting our enemies in the war on terrorism?
by Seymour M. Hersh
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
People “rise up” and change their governments through two basic processes:
1) Via free elections, when a political party and/or candidates arise who offer a platform based on change and reform, or at the very least, staunch opposition to the unpopular status quo of the current government. This is what gave the Democrats their majorities last year — it is also why Hamas won elections in Palestine. But this requires free elections and an opposition party or candidate(s) who are not being violently suppressed by the government; it requires that the people feel safe and secure enough to vote for the opposition, and that the system actually works, and the results of the election are accepted even by the losing leadership, and the reins of government are in fact handed over.
Sometimes you get a sitation like in the Ukraine, where the people are certain that they DID vote for change, and when change isn’t permitted, they rise up relatively peacefully (but still in sufficient numbers to remind the recalcitrant government of what could happen if they were NOT peaceful). There was pressure from outside Ukraine as well, from the international community and trading partners — and the pressure from within and without eventually forced the status quo to accept a change.
Or…. (2) the people may rise up very violently, because they are that angry, that hungry, that desperate — the status quo is that bad, so that risking everything from jobs to possessions to personal freedom or their lives, seems to be better than allowing the status quo to continue. This is a civil war — in which a lot of people lose their lives, and the outcome is far from certain.
Thing is, to get a regime change via non-violent means requires a certain degree of economic stability and civic and cultural freedom, so that a meaningful opposition can be created and gain the support of enough of the populace to be considered legitimate candidates in the next election. That economic stability and prosperity also allows people to think beyond basic survival for themselves and their families, to have business and cultural exchanges with people in other countries, to allow their culture to adapt and change to accommodate changes as well.
But if the economic and cultural stability of a country is under threat from outsiders, if not only the current government but the people themselves are feeling threatened by economic or political sanctions, or by armed armadas off the coast or on their borders, or if they are the victims of a violent and devastating attack on their own soil… then people tend to feel defensive and angry, and they will rally to leaders who promise them protection, who make them feel unified and defiant and strong. They take inspiration and comfort from traditional values, nationalist or cultural pride, and religious faith. We saw it happen here, after 9-11. We saw it happen in Palestine and Lebanon. And it is happening in Iran.
Expecting economic sanctions and threats of war to get a populace to rise up against their own government is rather like the old saying Beatings will continue until morale improves. It didn’t work in Cuba — Castro found other economic partners in the Soviet Union, and then in South and Central America. Even if conditions get so bad that civil war DOES break out, as it has in Gaza and Iraq, the casualties are so high that the “cure” seems far worse than the original disease — and those fighting are under no illusions as to who the real cause of their misery is.
We are not going to get regime change, certainly not a change more favorable to the West (or Western oil interests) by imposing economic sanctions and brandishing big military guns at Iran. We will certainly not get it by dropping bombs of any type. All we are doing is crippling the moderate and pro-reform voices already in Iran by making them into scapegoats and targets. We are not going to stop them from pursuing nuclear technology by cutting off their trade and brandishing big sticks. Bully tactics do not work. WE would not bend to such pressures were the situation reversed.
My biggest concern is that the Administration knows all this… and doesn’t care. Because the Administration doesn’t really care if Iran has nukes (except that having them makes them far less vulnerable to bullying). Sometimes I think the bullying IS the point in itself — to make sure there will always be a Enemy Abroad that can be used to scare voters and make certain members of the Bush Administration feel like Real Men, proving their manhood through superior firepower.
I still like Wes Clark’s solution to Iraq — blue jeans and CDs — letting cultural change and reform seep in and bubble up from the younger generation, through diplomatic contact and trade and free exchange of ideas. It might not result in privatization of Iran’s oil reserves, but a lot fewer people will die as a result.
Everything Dubya’s administration does with the folks in the Middle East experiences blowback. I still don’t understand why they decided to go the torture route when dealing with the combatants captured in Afghanistan or elsewhere, except as authoritarians they like delivering punishment to others. I would imagine the best way to have destroyed AQ would have been to treat the prisoners like princes, give them lots of presents and gifts and send them back in a trickle to AQ. Nobody there would have believed any of their statements that they hadn’t been turned. The AQ leadership could understand torture – that’s punishment, their method of choice. But having a former colleague come back well-fed, clean, with an iPod and a laptop, well, that would be a whole different matter. How could you trust them? How could you know they hadn’t been turned? What do you do when the CIA contacts them for a friendly follow-up a few months later, just to let them know that no hard feelings exist. We’d have inserted so many fault lines into AQ that it couldn’t have survived and their recruiting would have collapsed.
Iranian dissidents repeatedly warned that US efforts at “promoting democracy” will only backfire and hurt their cause. What does the US do? Goes ahead and hurts by providing the justification for hardline crackdown, and then complains about human rights violations in Iran.
Lesson: the US doesn’t give a damn about human rights or the cause of dissidents in Iran – the US wants bad PR for Iran.
for sitting around the campfire and joining in singing KumBahYa certain factions known to some people still stand to profit handsomely from certain “state” actions. These people are still in the minority and truely deserving of a nine millimeter slug in the center of their foreheads. I am sorry but that’s what I believe world policy comes down to. While the US today might have some interest in preventing Iran from having nuclear stuff the same US government still fucks over it’s own people consistently and repeatedly which rolls into my profit margins theme above. The orgasmic delight of corporate America to secure business in China, a “developing” country exempt from carbon emission restrictions of the 1997 Kyoto accord, only gives testimony to the Orewellian doublespeak of “human rights” issues in respect to Iran.