Michael Tomasky writes a column in the Guardian that I largely agree with. I am a liberal. And I have come to know a lot of very politically active liberals in my lifetime. And I think a lot of them are way out on the fringe. I don’t think they’re out on the fringe because of the policies they support. Liberal policies poll very well. I think they’re out on the fringe because they hold political opinions and goals but they have no effing clue how to implement those opinions and reach those goals. People in Washington DC tend to know the limitations of the possible. When something desirable doesn’t get done, they know who to blame and they know what to blame them for. A lot of liberals rage against the wrong things. And Tomasky is right. History plays tricks on us.
Liberals in my country tend to have a deeply romantic view of political movements. When we think of the civil rights movement, we think of the highlights, the stirring moments. Memory tricks us, and the media, which speak in such shorthand, help perpetuate the trick. So we tend to think that Rosa Parks sat on a bus, Martin Luther King gave some great speeches, decent Americans recoiled at racist violence on the nightly news, and boom, change happened. The reality was that nine long years passed from Parks’s act of civil disobedience until Lyndon Johnson signed the civil rights bill β nine years of often mundane and inglorious work. And even then, the civil rights bill didn’t really fix the problem of African Americans being denied the vote, so Congress had to go back the next year and pass the voting rights act.
But it pays to learn from some real history. Progressive change has come in this country in short, distinct bursts. The most significant progressive change of the last century came during The New Deal and The Great Society, which were two shortly-lived high points in Democratic control of both Congress and the White House. FDR’s Democrats rolled into power in the wake of the onset of the Great Depression. LBJ’s Democrats rolled into power in the wake of a decade of hard work and the trauma of a presidential assassination. The Democrats spent their capital quickly while they had it, and then they fought to maintain what they had created.
The Democrats are wary of overreaching and losing their newfound power as quickly as they gained it. But we’re at a high point now. We have worked hard to get here. This is not the time to settle for incrementalism until we are strong enough to effect real change. This is the time to push through our most ambitious stuff. That’s why Tomasky is wrong about this:
So now, liberals have to fight hard for something they’re not terribly excited about. A health bill will likely have a very weak public option or it won’t have one at all. But liberals will have to battle for that bill as if it’s life and death (which in fact it will be for thousands of Americans), because its defeat would constitute a historic victory for the birthers and the gun-toters and the Hitler analogists. In the coming weeks, building toward a possible congressional vote in November, progressives will have to get out in force to show middle America that there’s support for reform as well as opposition, even though they may find the final bill disappointing.
This is what movements do β they do the hard, slow work of winning political battles and changing public opinion over time. It isn’t fun. It isn’t something Will.i.am is going to make a clever and moving video about, and it offers precious few moments for YouTube. It takes years, which is a bummer, in a political culture that measures success and failure by the hour. The end of euphoria should lead not to disillusionment, but to seriousness of purpose.
The problem is that we’ve done the hard, slow work of winning political battles and changing public opinion over time. We are already here. Now is the time for real health care reform. Half-ass shit made sense in the 1990’s. It makes no sense today.
I agree, BooMan, completely. If we are going to get health care reform, now is the time–to hit with everything we got in the tank. The republicans will always fiercely resist any attempt to promote the general welfare. They are the cross we must bear.
So let’s get on with it starting at once!
I think Tomasky actually shorts the civil rights movement on this. Prior to Rosa Parks is brown v. board of education. And the ground work for that is laid through 30+ years of litigation by the NAACP.
But more on topic, I think America (not just liberals) tends to have a very hero-centric view of history. We learn about these prime movers that solved all of the problems of yore. And this filters into the way we view the present. We seek leaders to do the lifting for us.
Agree 100%! We need to strike now, while the iron is hot! This truly is, “Now or never.” It truly is. Recognize the moment.
Oh, isn’t it so nice that you all agree. How precious.
Here’s a different, worthwhile perspective:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574370301468452872.html
I love that term, “politics of charisma”.
I’ve noticed that too frequently liberals would rather “man the barricades” than win. The long patient campaigning to persuade family, friends, neighbors, and co-workers that single-payer healthcare reform is in their interest. For example, this is the main reason that it was off the table until the House Energy and Commerce Committee “compromise” with Mike Ross. This compromise weakened the public option secton of the bill in order to clear markup but promised a “symbolic” floor vote on an amendment that would substitute the language of the single-payer HR 676 for the language in HR 3200.
This amendment is to be introduced by Rep. Weiner.
Have you seen a major effort to create public interest and whip the vote for the Weiner amendment from those liberals who support a single-payer bill? Nope. You have seen this used as an excuse not to do anything because “Obama took it off the table.”
For all the palaver about democracy and democratic rule, most Americans, including a whole bunch of liberals don’t want to take the time to examine policy, inform people about policy, persuade people to support policies. As a result, they leave the field open to the lobbyists.
There are two types of power in our system: money power and people power. And when mobilized, people power wins over money power. That is why so much money is spent to break up the mobilization of people power — why there is a single cable channel and media empire singularly devoted to that task.
No one said that it was easy for people to gain, use, and protect the power over their own lives. When things are going well, one can get complacent. Like six months of assuming that Obama’s healthcare bill would race right through complacent.
Getting the minimum of a robust public option is necessary for future policy because it will demonstrate the will of ordinary people defeating a highly financed, organized, and astroturfed lobbying campaign by folks who in 100 years have never been beaten. When folks find out that the opponents and the media have flat out lied to them, those sources of opposition will have less power over the debate. Success will energize Democrats for the 2010 election, which then will be more likely to increase instead of decrease the margin in Congress.
Progressives will have discovered how to deal with Congress, and Democrats in Congress might no longer try to distance themselves from progressives.
It will take phone calls and activating your personal networks instead of marches to show our power. And that is not as much fun, is more lonely, and lacks the mutual cheerleading for which most progressives long.
Folks who are demanding Obama show “leadership” as their price for action most likely wouldn’t get off their duffs if Obama did show leadership–whatever that is.
I’m not going to ask a Democrat from a swing-district to vote for HR 676. It’s pointless and stupid. The bill has the support of exactly one senator.
You just proved his point.
Makes my point. The people in those districts have not heard from their more progressive relatives who live out of state. Progressives have not used their personal networks nearly as effectively as the “against single-payer” people have done.
The political climate doesn’t permit it because progressive have been content to focus on elections and not on changing the political climate.
And you know the sad part. If those Democrats from swing districts got on board and pushed through HR 676, by the time the November election rolled around, there would be folks in their district who would have benefited from it and all that ideological opposition will have melted away.
And my point is there are a lot of single-payer folks not working for a strong public option because “it’s not single-payer”. Well, it’s not a national health service either.
It’s the wrong battle. Even Conyers realizes that single-payer can’t pass through either House, ever. That’s why the movement has refocused the battle to the states (particularly Pennsylvania).
I wish there was no vote on HR 676 because it is going to get about 100 votes and that will make it fringier than ever.
“Ever” is a very long time.
I just don’t think the current political climate is the permanent political climate; human beings can change things. And I am pointing out the failure of the single-payer folks to make the case, not on the the blogs, but to their friends, family, neighbors, and co-workers who could actually affect the way a lot of Congressfolks vote. Activating personal networks is exactly how we got the crazy notion that the US is a conservative nation – peer pressure.
The persuasion about single-payer didn’t happen, so how to involve single-payer folk in the push for a public option? Or do we write them off as kooks?
Well, the answer is clear as far as Obama, Rahm, and the other centrist Democrats. They will aim their fire squarely at the ‘kooks’ on their Left.
Just as I predicted from the get-go. The Left will be portrayed as the poblem while Grassely and Taubin and Baucus are the reasonable ones.
Eventually, liberals will wake up to the fact that the centrist Dems and Obama are undermining them and working against them.
And while I agree with you that single payer advocates have an obligation to make the argument to friends and family I think you are letting the party leaders off the hook here. I mean l am quite surprised at the level of support for the public option AND single payer and that is with the centrists like Obama trying to make it seem like these are the kooks. There is already massive public support without any political leadership!
If liberals know what’s good for them they will beat back Obama’s inevitable push to make them toe the line. Punching Obama in the face is the BEST strategy for liberals. Obama and the Centrist Dems need to start paying a price for undercutting their putative allies on the Left–it’s the only way in politics to get what one wants. Obama needs to fear the left and giving him a defeat when he fundamentally sells out his allies is the only weapon liberals have.
Obama is going to war against liberals. Now it’s up to liberals to realize what he’s dong to them and say “no more”!
He is not going to way against liberals. You need a dose of realism.
Good. I would rather see nothing than Obama jam an industry-friendly bill down the Left’s throat.
I would be extremely happy if the Left kills Obama’s giveaway to the Insurance industry. It is much better than passing it. Hopefully Obama will learn from his mistakes (but methinks the conservaDems keep making the same mistakes over and over for a reason).
Now we need to focus our attention on MAKING THE CASE for single payer. It’s very revealing that Democrats keep coming up with reasons why it’s so hard to make the case. Would have been nice if Obama spent some capital on making the case instead of spending his political capital undermining it. Would have laid the foundation for the next battle. I guess real liberals are going to have to start from the beginning next time (and once again without the President’s support–hopefully next time the President won’t actively fight against single payer).
But maybe we will be victorious despite Obama. A short term defeat under these circumstances is much better in the long run.
feingold, who l generally respect, is smoking dope if he thinks this has any validity:
with roughly 60% of the 50 states facing serious budget shortfallswho’s going to pay for it, and who’s going to continue to bear the brunt of the pain?
as a model, let’s just by look at the current budget crisis in colorado and where it hurts the most:
14000 people a day are losing health coverage, that was a major talking point of obama’s weekly address 10 days ago…and the congress, specifically the senate, can’t get so much as a watered down public option passed?
unacceptable.
Respectfully, the reason single-payer advocacy is somewhat atrophied is that people had realistic expectations about what could be done to expand health care coverage. Therefore, the real advocates who are working daily on the issue have moved their efforts to the states. You can ignore that, but people who spout off on blogs are different from people that get up each morning fighting for single-payer. The road through Congress is blocked, and dividing the Left over the lack of single-payer is not helpful to either side.
I want to repeat that Bernie Sanders is the only open advocate of single-payer in the Senate. Maybe Sherrod Brown supports it. But they are the only ones. Because of this, it doesn’t help to have votes on the issue, and it makes no sense to try to force Dems to support it since they get only a downside as thanks for it.
Is the Senate really that out of touch with the American people? Surely, you admit that single payer is the majority position among Democrats? If you had a vote in both houses and every legislator (and President) had to pick one of three options: 1) single payer, 2) public option, or 3) keep things the same? Wouldn’t most Democrats vote for single payer? Isn’t the reason so many wan the public option is because people like Obama said it’s the best we can get so we should just settle for that (well, before he bargained even that away)? Aren’t most of the votes against single payer simply people that say it’s not possible but want it in theory? Why are Democrats incapable of voting their conscious? Republicans make sure they get bills so they can vote their conscious and show their base what they believe. Democrats run in fear from their beliefs like cowards. No wonder an American public that agrees with the Democrats politically doesn’t trust these spineless cowards to run the government.
If Republicans spent decades promising their base that they believed in one core principal and vowed to fight for that principal and then they finally took control of the government what are the chances they would vote AGAINST these core principle because, while they agreed with it, the other side and the media would make a big stink and therefore it’s just wouldn’t be possible. Didn’t we just live through a GOP-controlled government that rammed unpopular bills down America’s throat? Like routinely things with 30% support would pass and the Democrats can’t deliver on the ONE MAIN THING they promised and the vast majority of citizens want????
C’mon, no one realy believes the Democrats excuses, do they? How many times are you going to believe the boy that cried wolf?
This whole sorry affair explains perfectly what’s wrong with Democrats: they are incapable of fighting for their policy goals. Republicans would have rallied around the majority Republican position, the one that best met their ideological beliefs, they would have fought for it, and their President would have twisted arms to vote for it, not against it like this Democratic president.
They Democrats are so easy to defeat. They run like cowards at the first sign of adversity.
I don’t know the answer to your question about Democrats. The unelected kind do like single-payer, but if you polled it you’d probably find that only about 2/3rds of voting/registered Dems support a government-run health care system for everyone.
In the House, HR 676 has about 80 to 90 co-sponsors, but I doubt it has more than a dozen or two votes beyond that. I’ll be shocked if half the caucus votes for it.
If the Senate voted on it, my best guess is that it would get less than five votes, and perhaps only one.
Those numbers would tick up sharply if it actually had a chance of passing. I mean, beyond what that means definitionally. Some members would vote to pass it but not vote for it to make a statement.
The reality is that there is white-hot opposition to turning this country into a country like any other, with socialized medicine. It goes against not just powerful interests, but our culture and history. We can get there. But we’re nowhere near there now, and I wouldn’t blame our politicians for that. The Democrats, with few exceptions, have never promised single-payer.
Thanks for an honest reply. I agree with your assessment for the most part. We mostly disagree with what is possible. I’ve been an advocate for radical change within the Democratic party (both policy-wise as well as the way politics is played) and I think if the Democrats began to really fight for something like single payer the parameters of what is possible would change. If the Dems fought like they wanted single payer it would happen. It’s the centrists that are killing the possible.
I, for one, welcome an honest vote even if the Democratic party is so corrupted it can’t even give the American people the socialism they broadly want. Let’s have our votes to see where Dems really stand. If Senators want to vote against single payer I want all 57 or 58 of these bums to stand up and vote against it. Show us where your votes are. Maybe then the liberals can decide which party is for them and what the most effective strategy is for working on behalf of the majority of Americans. Also, the Senate would have clearly demonstrated it works for the insurance industry and not 50 million uninsured Americans.
And Senators will be even more reluctant to vote against a single payer bill if it gets the most votes in the House. IF the House votes for single payer (say 150 for single payer 125 for public option) and they decide to let majority rule and insist on and send a single payer bill to the Senate you really think all 58 Dems will vote no? Now that would be the end of the Democratic party. And rightly so.
Let the majority of Democrats decide–screw Grasely and Baucus and Limbaugh and the teabaggers.
There is probably nothing dumber than making your vulnerable members take meaningless votes to prove a point that will make them much more vulnerable. Why did the House force through the Cap and Trade vote prior to the health care vote. That was idiotic.
Not only are those same members now much less willing to vote for health care, but the Cap and Trade bill is dead in the Senate.
You have strong opinions, but you don’t see the legitimacy in working the system in a way that allows you to maintain and increase your advantage.
I am so terrified of seeing the Republicans return to control in their present form, that I am not willing to lose members just to push the Senate from one to ten votes in favor of single-payer. That is not how we are going to get single-payer. If you think that is going to work, you’re high.
If we can pass single-payer in a state like Pennsylvania, and it works as well as we think it will work, then that might catch on. There is no reason to lose members over a pipe dream just to make a statement.
I’m working the system the way it was intended to be worked. Let’s have them debate and vote on a bill and if it doesn’t pass they go back to the people and are responsible for their actions and then the new legislature starts again. Let’s stop all the posturing and obfuscation and show the voters where everyone stands. Keep it simple. Why is everyone hiding the ball here?
And lose members? Show me how the Democrats lose members by giving the public what it wants. How can the Democrats screw this up? They ran on this, it’s widely popular, and if the president used his popularity to sell a New Health Care Deal to Americans these Members would have a pretty easy job of selling it to their constituents.
Seriously. What the hell are they scared of? That these toothless Beck teabagger Goobers will convince Americans that their new health care coverage is socialism or fascism? These 30% dead-enders, these implacably ignorant wingnuts, the people that cheer at Sara Palin standing her ground against all reason, are preventing the Democratically controlled government from enacting Democratic legislation? Really? That’s the excuse?
In any case, I suspect it’s one retreat too many. There is nothing left to defend. Obama and the centrists already convinced most of the party to abandon more liberal ground and we’ve already retreated to here–but good news!– we have our stored up ammo for this fight–and Obama’s precious political capital—remember?
Btw, I have an extremely liberal friend from France, who is nonetheless a bit dissatisfied with their system of health care and would not advocate it here. She feels the French treat patients like dirt, and here they are much more respectful, and she attributes that to the profit motive. Maybe. Maybe not. I, of course, attribute it to French culture. π But I don’t think that argument would fly with her.
Just as the columnist talks about movement building, which is hard work, I see – again – someone citing FDR without mentioning the pressure from the left.
The Congress of Industrial Organizations – the CIO – was a largely socialist-ideological, radical labor organization willing to use militant tactics to directly challenge the power of big business, despite the fact that government and law was against them. The Flint and other sit-down strikes were ALL illegal. There were injunctions against them. And they were successful at building powerful industrial unions, which were also calling for their own political parties. ‘Third’ parties had successes all over the midwest (where I’m from). There was hard-left organizing all over our history back then – way to the left of liberals.
Bob LaFollette ran to the left of the Democrats in 1924 and got 16.5% of the national presidential vote. Eight years later you get FDR. George Wallace ran in 1968 to the right of the Republicans and got 13.5% of the presidential vote; this broke the old Democratic southern strength and Nixon, trending right, used the Southern Strategy first in that year.
Compare Nader (never over 5%) and the Greens for the only real electoral challenge on today’s horizon. John Anderson, Ross Perot, and people like Jesse Ventura were all middle-road who didn’t re-align (but who did shift votes – Minnesota’s had a series of Republicans because Ventura’s Independence Party gives pro-choice conservatives someone other than Democrats to vote for…)
Anyway – talking about FDR without mentioning the strength of the red left just ticks me off. It’s historical blindness.
(Oh – and I didn’t even go into the Populists…)
(two good links – Lafollete’s and Wallace’s votes)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1968prescountymap2.PNG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1924prescountymap.PNG
Did I hear you say Real History? You called? π
Just teasing. Nice article. I SO agree that liberals have to learn how to work the political system, rather than simply how to rail against it.
I suspect it’s a combination of a busy life, laziness, and a large dose of complacency that makes people talk more than do. Talk is cheap. Action is everything.
I so respect those who, offline, are genuine activists. If you can’t put your body on the line now and then for what you believe in, can you really say you believe it?
I don’t ask for much. A phone call now and then. Attending a town meeting. Helping on a campaign. Donating money helps, too.
Thanks for reminding us what’s at stake, and why we need to really push, now.