The September 24th protest began as an extension of Cindy Sheehan’s cry from the Crawford wilderness. Cindy’s message was simple. The war is not noble and no more Americans should be asked to die for an ignoble cause. The simplicity of her message was what made it so effective. But the simplicity suffered from the same pitfalls of all simplistic arguments. Pulling our troops out now will protect their lives, but it will have consequences. Many of those consequences are going to be unpleasant, many of those consequences are unknowable. Without a thorough, honest, intelligence estimate of the likely consequences it is difficult for many people to sign on for an immediate withdrawal.
Beyond the potential problems of an immediate withdrawal, Cindy also acted like a pied piper, bringing in allies of all stripes and colors. Some of those allies are embarrassing allies to have. The right-wing media immediately began to trying to discredit all the protesters with a guilt by association argument. Such arguments are often very effective. In the 60’s and 70’s the FBI infiltrated peaceful protest groups and tried to encourage them to incite violence. It was only marginally effective in discrediting the peace movement, although it did discredit individual groups.
Many people fear falling into this trap. They don’t want to protest the war if the only message is a simplistic “pull-out-now” argument, or if they will be tarred by a “guilt-by-association” slime campaign. Let me tell you something. Any organized protest against this administration is going to be faced with infiltration, with a slime campaign, and will involve some radical groups that we don’t really want to be associated with. It’s unavoidable. But there is a way to overcome this.
Hurricane Katrina has changed things. The message is no longer that we should pull out of Iraq immediately. The message is that Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld should resign or be impeached. Before Katrina a full 42% of Americans thought Bush should be impeached if he lied us into war. The number of people calling for his impeachment is rising, and it is beginning to come from voices on the right. The biggest and best argument against braying for impeachment has been that it is a political impossibility with the Republicans in charge. But the Republicans no longer want to be associated with this administration. They no longer want to defend their prosecution of the war or their response to Hurricane Katrina.
The demonstration in Washington needs to embrace all the groups that think Bush and Cheney should be forced from office. Some think they crossed the line with pre-9/11 counterterrorism policy, some think it was the “fixing the facts around the policy” exemplified by the Downing Street Minutes, some think it was their incompetent war and reconstruction plan, some think is was authorizing torture and indefinite detentions, some think it was outing a CIA officer, some think it was their failure to save New Orleans from total destruction. Some have other straws the broke their personal camel’s back. Whatever the reason, they should not be allowed to continue if office.
What has paralyzed the Democratic opposition for four years has been the underlying problem that no matter what we propose, it is up to Bush and Cheney to implement our alternative policies. We told them to make al-Qaeda their number one priority, they ignored us. We told them to keep focused on Afghanistan, they ignored us. We called for more inspections and diplomacy over Iraq, they ignored us. We called for more troops, they ignored us. We called for more spending to upgrade the New Orleans levees, they ignored us.
It is now abundantly clear that there is only one way to protect the country. It is not by offering alternative plans that will be ignored. It is by removing them from office. That is a better Iraq plan than anything we can offer up. It’s better than an immediate withdrawal.
Realistically speaking, we cannot expect to be able to remove them until we gain one house of Congress and can hold hearings and issue subpoenas. So, that should also be our rallying cry. Give us the right to hold them accountable, because they won’t hold any of their own to account.
The more people descend on Washington D.C. to protest this administration the more terrifying it will be for members of both parties in Congress. The Democrats will be afraid to compromise, and the Republicans will finally understand there are at least a near majority of Americans that will support impeachment if it is ever proven that the war in Iraq was based on a ‘pack of lies’. The media will have to report, the polling companies will have to poll.
Yes, we will be slimed and called radicals. But we are not radicals. At least, most of us are not radicals. We are a near majority of the American people and growing with each new setback or disaster dealt to us by the administration.
So, don’t worry about ‘guilt by association’, don’t worry if the message is diffuse and not calibrated to your exact view. Get your butts on the mall, and tell the country that we are not going to sit back anymore and wait for a ‘hero to rise from these streets’. Let’s be our own heros. Let’s make our own consensus, or own common wisdom. Be brave. Fight for our security and for the good name of our nation. March on Washington.
Thank You!!!
No just one day either. Live and breathe like every damn day is Sept 24th. Call those pukebastards in DC every damn day to “comment” how you feel.
I want these greedy, cowardly killers of our men, women, children to be brought up on WAR CRIME CHARGES as well as FAILING AMERICA.
I’ll be “marching” in DC, however I’m marching every damn day till the and afterwards.
Right on Booman. Oh some of you will say I cannot get to DC. That’s ok because almost every major city in the US is holding their own march on the 24th. I thought I was going to LA and then found out through the local chater of the DNC there is a March and protest being held here in San Diego on the 24th at 2pm at 4th and Balboa.
Start checking and if your town/city/village/community is not having a march/protest that organise one.
Thanks Booman for being the rational leader that yopu are. Don’t know what I would have done these past few weeks especially without this fabulous community. I have made so many friends here and not just virtual but in person friends now too.
I offer anyone that wants to drive in to San Diego for our March here a place to crash for a night. Just reply to any of my comments and we will work it out.
will be marching in San Francisco on the 24th, in our brand-spanking-new BooTrib T-shirts I just ordered. 🙂
Hey, there’s an idea…if anyone hasn’t ordered their BooTrib shirts, do it now, then wear them on the day of the protest. That way we can spot each other and get together after the march for a beverage or two… 🙂
I’ll be wearing my Booman shirt! 🙂
Agreed.
Thank you.
Will someone please contact me re: the Booman planning group. Thanks.
ssearls1@rochester.rr.com
I just emailed you.
Thanks
I thought I already had…maybe I’m having some wierd email glitch-sorry!
That’s ok. Maybe my spam filter caught you.
the day I was marching behind Ralph Abernathy in a civil rights/anti-war protest in Atlanta back in 1969. From the front, an old hymn got started, “Gimme that Ol’Time Religion.” The lyrics go, “If it was good enough for Abraham, it’s good enough for me/ Gimme that Ol’Time Religion; it’s good enough for me.” It goes on like that citing Moses, Noah, etc., down thru the Hebrew patriachy. I’m singing along, clapping my hands in time with everyone else and suddenly everyone is singing, “If it’s good enough for Chairman Mao…” Then, “…good enough for Ho Chi Men…” WTF!?
I shouted at the young woman next to me, “Are you listening to what you’re singing?!” “O yeah,” she beamed, “Power to the People, honey.”
I jumped out of the mass of people and ran up to the nearest MIB and declared, “I am not a communist! I am no longer part of this demonstration! Make a note in my file; I am NOT WITH THESE PEOPLE!”
My reaction seems really funny when I look back on it. But, at the time, I was incensed. That was the smear they were using against MLK, Jr. at the time — that he was a Communist, card-carrying — and stupid Ralph was feeding the meme. Looking back on it all these decades later, I think MLK probably was a communist and it doesn’t seem like that big a deal now.
So, my point is I understand people not wanting to be associated with anarchists or transexuals in day-glo short-shorts or whatever. But, what matters is thousands of people in the streets and if all of us relatively middle-class professional sorts stay home because we’re afraid of rubbing up against “radicals” and “crazies”… well, you know, the mass of Americans probably aren’t “our kind” either. You either accept that Democracy involves all kinds of people and get with them or you don’t. Shall we impose a dress code and make everyone wear suits and ties? LOL!
And if you’re still worried about the protest being only about withdrawal, Atrios speaks:
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Immediate Withdrawal
I think there’s a little disconnect about the meaning of “immediate withdrawal.” Most people throwing around the phrase don’t really think it means “turn tail and RUN RUN RUN AS FAST YOU CAN” out of Iraq. What they mean is we should set a timetable for getting out of Iraq as soon as we reasonably can. Certainly the meaning of the phrase “as soon as we reasonably can” is subject to debate, but I don’t really think “getting out as fast as we can even if it means we incur massive casualties on the way out” is what anyone really has in mind.
Gee whiz booman, that is the best diary you have ever written. I am fully in 100% agreement with you.
“Boo-Man. Boo-Man. Boo-Man.”
(I think we need to start practicing a simple and effective chant for the protest on the mall. I nominate the above. Small group, large voice.)
As I was telling someone today, we need to make September 24th into whatever we want. Do you want Bush impeached? Then shout that to the rooftops? Do you want our troops out ASAP? Then do your thing. Whatever it is, just go out and make your voice heard.
wrong, I fear. We are MUCH more effective if there is a focused message: Bush and cheney must resign.
Booman, will you be there with us?
with bells on.
Would you like to catch up with some or all of us down there? I’ll email you the invite to our planning group if you want…
And, you’re damn skippy.
at Daily Kos.
Remember to pay it foward:)
Fill up those rooms,people I am counting on you!
I would love to but….there is no way I can get to DC. I would take me 2 or 3 days to drive there and that many too come back. I can’t miss that much class.
I haven’t heard anything about any protests in chicago…are there?
bush and cheney must be forced to resign.
That is what I would like to see come out of Sep. 24-26. I don’t have illusions about the Republican House moving to impeach but I do have hopes that a tidal wave of American Citizens descending on Washington demanding their resignation might cause senior Republicans to let bush and cheney know their days are done.
And don’t forget… this is not just the 24th. A key to make this happen is Monday, Sep. 26 which has been set as a lobby day. Image tens to hundreds of people from each state and congressional district visiting the offices of every single Senator and Congressperson and demanding exactly the same thing… the resignations of bush, cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Card, Chertoff, and Brown… and stating the obvious… that if the Senator or Congressperson does not make or support that call for resignation that they will face the consequences of an active and angry electorate during their next election.
Yes, this is the key, I think. A focused, resounding call for resignation. Of course, he won’t resign, but if there are massive demonstrations, and IF this turns into a chorus for Bush and Cheney’s resignation, that will be very, very powerful.
My fear is that an anti-war march at this moment will generate a backlash–the media will start reporting on the bad timing, and why aren’t those people helping out with hurricane relief, they’re not pro-American, etc. etc. It’s playing into Rove’s hand. But a call for resignation can encompass the war and also the New Orleans crisis, in other words, both Gulf catastrophes. And exactly as Booman argues, the situation is so critical that it is pointless to argue for a policy change.
WE NEED REGIME CHANGE NOW!
Was telling hub- they are gonna have 50 people on the floor of each of those hotel rooms- woohooo!
A little OT, but I wrote a diary about my wife’s friend Don who was caught in the hurricane. One of his recorded phone calls was posted at Crooks and Liars (direct link to MP3). In it, he describes the horrible conditions of the shelter he was at. I also just found out that he was interviewed on Al Franken’s show today.
Ed Shultz might be interested in Don’s story also. See
Link
(Got ur email!)
Well said! Ought to be mandatory reading for all Mericans.
because nothing is going to stand in the way of me screaming at the top of my lungs in DC on Sept. 24th.
There are two concerns for this moderate – one policies – I don’t want an immediate withdrawal from Iraq even if that is construed to mean an immediate gradual withdrawal. The second is the guilt by association – but it isn’t so much guilt as repulsion.
Is there anyway of organizing moderates for the message of Bush out, rather than US out of Iraq. Especially focusing on Katrina and the general theme of horrific incompetence
I’m also someone who finds some of the radicals who will be involved in organizing this march much more objectionable than George Bush. However, I generally find them irrelevant – they’re a minute and marginal set of people who have no influence in America. I’m never going to have to choose between a George Bush and ANSWER in an election. But still, there is something that makes me a little uneasy about being in a march which they are coorganizing. However, I’m currently leaning to going anyways.
btw. I never liked Bush. As a straight liberal on domestic policy I couldn’t stand him. As a liberal hawk on foreign policy I found him troubling. The mismanagement of the occupation and our policy of torture made me hate the guy. Katrina made me upset enough to want to march to demand resignation. I know that there is no chance of such a demand being satisfied – at best a slim chance that Collins as Chairwoman of Gov Affairs will conduct a robust investigation which in turn cascades. I also have no illusion that Cheney or even Hastert would be any better. Perhaps the lesson of a president who is forced to resign over such gross incompetence might serve to discourage it in the future.
NB: a sign slogan idea – out with criminal incompetence/negligence?