Scooter and Judy, cut the whining about coercion and rights! You’re a couple of liars who only respond to hardcore proof — like Secret Service logs, writes this year’s Woodward & Bernstein-rolled-into-one, Murray Waas:
New York Times reporter Judith Miller told the federal grand jury in the CIA leak case that she might have met with I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby on June 23, 2003 only after prosecutors showed her Secret Service logs that indicated she and Libby had indee met that day in the Executive Office Building adjacent to the White House, according to attorneys familiar with her testimony.
ReddHedd has a professional’s insights into this story at FireDogLake. In Crap! Those Pesky Records! — with the background as a public defender of criminals in federal prosecutiions — he writes that “[i]n this particular matter, what Judy and Scooter forgot is that they are dealing with a professional [Fitzgerald].”
Not some slackass, just out of law school, wet behind the ears kid. Not some political social climber who would sell his mother for a Senate seat or a nomination to the Federal bench. Not some guy who was going to phone it in because he didn’t want to piss off the high and mighty and powerful. This guy is a professional prosecutor, who does his job. Period.
You don’t prosecute the Gambinos, Sheik Omar Abdel Rachman, Osama Bin Laden and former Governor Ryan of Illinois just for kicks. Those cases are all long, hard slogs, and potentially very deadly to your career as well as your person.
And when you do your job, you find things like this: all government buildings after 9/11 (and even before 9/11 in a lot of cases) require that you sign in and out. That goes double for buildings where you have the potential for someone being around national security documents or highly placed government officials, because you don’t want something disappearing without some written record of who has had access to the building. You follow the paper trail, the evidence in hand, the usual patterns of behavior, and sometimes even your gut — but it is the little details that nail someone to the wall.During her first go at her testimony, Judy was evasive and could not recall whether or not she had ever met with Scooter on June 23rd, when asked specifically about this by the Special Prosecutor. (Note to witnesses: If the prosecutor is asking you about a date certain, he has something that he will nail your ass with unless you are completely truthful. Keep that in mind in the future.)
Perry Mason would have LOVED this:
A gotcha moment can be a rare and beautiful one for any attorney, and usually occurs over some very specific detail on which you can hang the person on the stand. But it is almost always a detail that the witness thought was so insignificant that no one would ever bother with it in a million years.
Wrong.
For Judy Miller, that detail was a Secret Service log from June 23, 2003. It showed her entering and exiting the Executive Office Building adjacent to the White House to meet with Scooter Libby.
ReddHedd’s riff on the Waas revelations is a must-read. It’s long, but worth it. And I loved this part:
My read on all of this is that Scooter is in very big trouble. And Judy is on a very, very short leash. If Fitz finds out that she has lied about anything else, held back anything, tried to cover for anyone else’s ass, she’s toast.
Billmon also adds spin to this story:
Libby may have figured that the best way to spread the story was to let Judy get a game of “telephone” going. Or maybe he didn’t know all the details of Plame’s identity and employment (or didn’t want to know them officially) and tasked Judy with the job of ferreting them out.
“Valerie Flame,” then, might have been a name Judy brought to her second meeting with Libby, rather than one she took away from it. (I’m bad with names, too, so I’m not in a good place to criticize, but you’d think that in a case like that, where you’re helping the necon Mafia trash somebody, you’d at least double check the spelling.)
If such a scenario were true, one could easily understand why Scooter and Judy would prefer not to mention their June meeting in their initial remarks to the grand jury. This, however, also would have been extraordinarily stupid, since it turns out that Judy called on Scooter at his digs in the Old Executive Office building, where she would have had to have been logged in and out. …
No offense to you, Booman, and Catnip, but ReddHedd and Jane Hamsher over at firedoglake have done an amazing job of putting this together and laying it out in understandable language for those of us who are NAL.
They get major props from me, as do all the fine writers and commenters here at the Trib…KUDOs to all…Bring it on Fitz!
Peace
Also, emptywheel–here and at other places including Next Hurrah (damn, I always want to call it Last Hurrah)–has done brilliant analysis.
And, Susan, I am of the impression that ReddHedd is a female-type person, not a “he.” But I’ve been wrong before.
We all do the best we can. Some of us have better backgrounds for this than others.
Mr. Rove and Mr. Libby have been advised that they may be in serious legal jeopardy, the lawyers said, but only this week has Mr. Fitzgerald begun to narrow the possible charges.
New York Times just out.
see catnip’s diary 🙂
also, catnip’s diary
No offense to you, Booman, and Catnip, but ReddHedd and Jane Hamsher over at firedoglake have done an amazing job of putting this together and laying it out in understandable language for those of us who are NAL.
Criticism is appreciated (no, really) but it would be helpful if it was more specific. I thought Susan laid this out quite well in easy to understand language.
necessary. Our front pagers here are Awesome. You could have gotten your recommend out & point across without a little dig. I gave you a 2. Uncalled for.
OOOOH, a 2 at BMT!
I feel like I’ve just seen an ivory-billed woodpecker.
;-D
Thanks Susanbohu..Great read. I think this might be new article from New York Times…..
Cover-Up Issue Is Seen as Focus in Leak Inquiry
As he weighs whether to bring criminal charges in the C.I.A. leak case, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the special counsel, is focusing on whether Karl Rove, the senior White House adviser, and I. Lewis Libby Jr., chief of staff for Vice President Dick Cheney, sought to conceal their actions and mislead prosecutors, lawyers involved in the case said Thursday.
Among the charges that Mr. Fitzgerald is considering are perjury, obstruction of justice and false statement – counts that suggest the prosecutor may believe the evidence presented in a 22-month grand jury inquiry shows that the two White House aides sought to cover up their actions, the lawyers said.
Mr. Rove and Mr. Libby have been advised that they may be in serious legal jeopardy, the lawyers said, but only this week has Mr. Fitzgerald begun to narrow the possible charges. The prosecutor has said he will not make up his mind about any charges until next week, government officials say.
SERIOUS LEGAL JEOPARDY…(Wonderful..fingers crossed.)
Then we have this morsal
“With the term of the grand jury expiring in one week, though, some lawyers in the case said they were persuaded that Mr. Fitzgerald had all but made up his mind to seek indictments.”
And then this makes me really happy…am I bad?
But Mr. Rove and Mr. Libby may not be the only people at risk. There may be others in the government who could be charged for violations of the disclosure law or of other statutes, like the espionage act, which makes it a crime to transmit classified information to people not authorized to receive it.
Hoping this is new info to the rest of the gang here. It’s going to be a long weekend. I can’t link worth a shit. Sorry. Enjoy it.
You know, back in 2000, I wrote Katherine Harris an e-mail and told her that I couldn’t wait to see her in an orange jumpsuit.
This time, I hope I get to see someone in an orange jumpsuit — Rove, Libby, Wurmser, etc., etc. … and MIller, dammit! She’s a sociopathic manipulator and liar.
YES…I want Miller right back behind bars..and at least 6 others with her. Wouldn’t it be delightful to see Karen Hughes’s ass dragged off to the slammer? Rove, Libby I am feeling are pretty much finished. I would be shocked if Rove talked himself out of this. Fitzie is way to smart for that small time Texas crook who has been fucking over America for years now. Another surprise jail bird would be Mary Carville Maitlin what an evil nasty hag. If Cheney isn’t indicted or named, I hope there are enough from his office that are, that would shame him into fading off into the sunset and spare America of his NeoCon agenda. The NeoCon years are OVER DICK. I wonder how Condi would look in Orange? I’m with you on Katherine Harris, it is disgusting she didn’t end up behind bars. While were naming names..Jeanine Pirro is another one I can’t stand. And this has nothing to do with anything but while were at it..can we once and for all get rid of Dick Morris…What was Clinton thinking. Sheesh. What a pig. Lastly…I think it better that Georgie is left alone in the big house with all of his Cronies gone..then we can take care of him next Nov.
So many creeps, so few jumpsuits!
Susan, I’m with you on this too. Harris the bitch threw Florida state law into the trash on the recount. Little did we know she was just setting the tone for the coming administration.
Come on Fitzgerald justice has waited long enough these criminals need to pay. Lets avenge our soldiers that have died in Iraq by exposing the bullshit that got them killed. We owe it to our soldiers to see justice served.
I think the notion of getting rid of this conspiracy through investigation and prosecutions is about as plausible as the idea of getting rid of the rabid right by winning the WH and majorities in congress.
I think the America we see is the America we’ve got, as far ahead as we can see. We can hope to be able to win some elections and, if so, manage some degree of containment. God knows how long it could take to convince enough of the dark side that our way is better for them that we could accomplish anything like a victory.
As soon as the wingnuts feel it in their wallet they’ll come around. The biggest thing bothering them right now is the price of gas. Next it will be the fact they have no job to pay for expensive gas. Its sad but a whole lot of people only react when it affects them. Empathy is a hard thing to come by these days. Hell even sympathy is a hard thing to come by these days.
involved in this conspiracy.
Both the military and the holier-than-us will dispatch with these crooks.
The powers-that-be are not the wingnuts. The wingnuts are just the cheerleaders and brownshirts for the powers-that-be.
And the powers-that-be are tired of Bush.
Oh, surely he was useful, and at least some, if not all, of what he did was what they wanted. Even the chaos in Iraq may have been part of their plan. Or maybe not. Either way, that is not the point.
The point is that W’s disasters, wanted or unwanted, are now becoming both public and unpopular. This in turn means that Bush is no longer useful. He has run his run, and now he has to be replaced. (Did he see this coming? Surely not. This is a sweet, sweet betrayal.)
But replaced by what? By the old bait-and-switch, of course. Meaning that Bush has to go down spectacularly, in flames. Easily done now, with so many people angry at him. Cheney goes down too. And they will be replaced by new people who will be like saviors and restorers. Well, actually by DLCs like Hillary or Republicans like McCain. Already these names–and others are galloping around the blogoshere (right and left & right) like knights in shining armor. And what will the new people do? Loudly proclaim the retreat from the brink and the restoration of the republic while they quietly set about the next piece of the PTB’s agenda. Which will be as fine a piece of sabotaging from within as Progressives have ever seen from their so-called Dem and liberal allies. In fact the mess that W has left behind will preclude the measures most desired by the public but rather unfortunately force action to enhance public safety and security . . . You know the rest and the sheep will eat it up–or that is the plan.
Incompetent evil is to be replaced by competent evil, and make no doubt about which is worse.
But we should savor this moment while we can.
And besides, in the uncertain moment created by the fall of Bush, the powers-that-be just might fail.
We’re on exactly the same wavelength: You’ve got it nailed.
Like you, I find the most ground for hope in that the situation is no longer totally in the control of the “powers that be” once the dragon of popular outrage is awakened. Then they have to give up more turf than they ever planned, and it takes them a generation to make up the loss. That’s the lesson of both the post-depression and post-Vietnam/Watergate eras. The conversation will shift left, and we have to yank the rope for all we’re worth to seize the most we can from the moment.
The struggle never ends as long as they have the massive amounts of money that they do – our democracy will ever be at risk of descending into a corrupt plutocracy. That’s why fundamental change like REAL corporate reform (like redefining/restricting corporate “personhood”) needs to be in the progressive agenda if we’re to ever succeed at gaining anything more than a holding action.
Great synopsis and round up, Susan!
Miller is obviously one of the worst kind of lying liars – one with no conscience. No wonder she gets along well with the neocons.
Awesome work Susan Godess.
Gee – you never call me Goddess (or do you when I’m not looking?)
Don’t answer that. That would be creepy.
did I do that?
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(Sorry . can’t edit comments and i had to break up the Godesssss’s so that the page didn’t go too wide. Must make BooMan give me mo’ power. Must.)
Thanks Susan..how did I do that? Could I have been breaking margins my entire blog life? Yikessss. I really think this is the first margin I have broken.
The word was too long, and the software isn’t smart enough to break it! Geesh! (Wish that could be programmed in.)
my friend…btw/ you can call me Chamonix. I registered as Chamonix but way back when it wouldn’t let me sign on for a couple of hours and Booman suggested to resign up and Chamonix was of course already taken by me so that’s why I am now Chamonix1 but I do prefer just plain ol’ Chamonix. Pronounced Chom in Knee.
At least he didn’t call you Margaret Atwood, LOL!
Thanks again for all you do for the community, Catnip; I haven’t said that to you recently and it really needs to be said.
And you too, Susan!
We have many goddesses on this site.
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Fitzgerald has reportedly asked for a copy of the Italian government’s investigation into the break-in of the Niger embassy in Rome and the source of the forged documents.
Easy to combine the December 2001 meeting in Rome involving neo-con Michael Ledeen, Larry Franklin, Harold Rhodes, and Niccolo Pollari, the head of Italy’s intelligence agency SISMI, and Antonio Martino, the Italian defense minister.
The Huffington Post – 10.20.2005 – by James Moore
If special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald delivers indictments of a few functionaries of the vice president’s office or the White House, we are likely to have on our hands a constitutional crisis.
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We know, however, based upon what we have read and seen and heard that someone created fake documents related to Niger and Iraq and used them as a false pretense to launch America into an invasion of Iraq. And when a former diplomat made an honest effort to find out the facts, a plan was hatched to both discredit and punish him by revealing the identity of his undercover CIA agent wife.
Patrick Fitzgerald has before him the most important criminal case in American history. Watergate, by comparison, was a random burglary in an age of innocence. The investigator’s prosecutorial authority in this present case is not constrained by any regulation. If he finds a thread connecting the leak to something greater, Fitzgerald has the legal power to follow it to the web in search of the spider.
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As much as this sounds like the plot of a John le Carre novel, it also comports with the profile of the Karl Rove I have known, watched, traveled with and written about for the past 25 years.
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Fortunately, there are good signs. Fitzgerald has reportedly asked for a copy of the Italian government’s investigation into the break-in of the Niger embassy in Rome and the source of the forged documents. The blatantly fake papers, which purported to show that Saddam Hussein had cut a deal to get yellowcake uranium from Niger, turned up after a December 2001 meeting in Rome involving neo-con Michael Ledeen, Larry Franklin, Harold Rhodes, and Niccolo Pollari, the head of Italy’s intelligence agency SISMI, and Antonio Martino, the Italian defense minister.
If Fitzgerald is examining the possibility that Ledeen was executing a plan to help his friend Karl Rove build a case for invading Iraq? Ledeen has long ties to Italian intelligence agency operatives and has spanned the globe to bring the world the constant variety of what he calls “creative destruction” to build democracies. He makes the other neo-cons appear passive. He brought the Reagan administration together with the Iranian arms dealer who dragged the country through Iran-Contra and shares with his close friend Karl Rove a personal obsession with Machiavelli. Ledeen, who is almost rabidly anti-Arab, famously told the Washington Post that Karl Rove told him, “Any time you have a good idea, tell me.”
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It is strictly coincidence then that some months after he and his neo-con consorts and Italian intelligence officers met in Rome that the Niger embassy was illegally entered and nothing was stolen other than letterhead and seals. And equally coincident that forged papers under those letterheads were slipped to Elisabetta Burba, a writer for an Italian glossy owned by Silvio Berlusconi, Italy’s prime minister, and a backer of the Bush invasion scheme. Unfortunately for the pro-war neo-cons, even an Italian tabloid would not publish the fake documents and turned them over to the CIA and US government in Rome.
The other American attendees at Ledeen’s Roman Holiday are also worthy of scrutiny. Larry Franklin was recently arrested for leaking classified US government information to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Ledeen sprang quickly to his defense but Franklin faces prosecution next year and is most probably cooperating with prosecutor Fitzgerald. Harold Rhode, the other American actor in this tragicomic affair, worked the Office of Special Plans (OSP) at the Department of Defense for Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Characterized as a “counter-intelligence shop,” OSP simply interpreted intelligence in a manner that fit the need for evidence that Iraq had WMD. If the CIA gathered data that said otherwise, OSP analyzed it differently or ignored the facts and then reported to the vice president precisely what he wanted to hear. Rhode also was the liaison between Ahmed Chalabi, the convicted embezzler the Bush administration was using to feed information to them and Judy Miller about the distortions and lies required to fuel the rush to war.
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I have seen the spawn of Rove’s tortured mind and watched a hundred of his political scams unfold and I am confident I know how this one played out. Rove might have brought it up with his fellow big brains in the White House Iraq Group, a propaganda organization set up to disseminate information supporting the war. There was likely a consensus to move the plan to smack down Wilson out of the White House. Rove always keeps a layer of operatives between himself and the person he gets to pull the trigger. Libby was probably told to manage it out of the VP’s office to protect the president because Karl always takes care of his most prized assets. Libby then likely ordered John Hannah and possibly David Wurmser to call the ever-friendly Judy Miller at the New York Times and columnist Robert Novak to give them Valerie Plame’s identity. Rove knew that Miller would call Libby of Aspen for confirmation and his old friend Novak was certain to call Rove who, as an unidentified senior White House official, would confirm the identity on background only.
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There you have it, Mr. Prosecutor …
Prove to us we still live in a democracy and a nation of laws.
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And … connect the dots with the DeLay Cabal in Texas, Florida and Washington DC, Fitzgerald just investigates money laundering, racketeering, wire fraud – just like the John Gambino Family he got behind bars!
See my comment on The DeLay Cartel! It just can’t be a coincidence these investigations are running parallel.
The Italian arrests warrants for CIA operatives, hmmm …
Nicola Calipari
My personal take: Nicola Calipari shooting was an assassination, a single shot to the head, sending a message to the Italian government and all western intelligence forces operating in Iraq.
Swift Vets eRiposte and POWs for “Truth” vs. The Truth
… or just wishful thinking?
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“Patrick Fitzgerald has before him the most important criminal case in American history. Watergate, by comparison, was a random burglary in an age of innocence.”
That’s a little over the top for me. Every age likes to think they live at the pivotal moment in the planet’s history – after all, it’s the only age they really know, or can really know. How else to explain the perennial fervor with which the fundamentalists continue to expect Jesus’ imminent return after two millenia?
I think we can all agree we’re in a crisis without making it the apotheosis of history.
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I understood his analysis as follows:
Watergate was a turning point as far as trust in the Presidency and Government
Bush ConGate is an attack on democracy itself, abuse of power, corporations in conspiracy with VP’s office, an illegal war as a result.
All made possible by faulty elections, establishing a Republican White House and majority in the House, Senate and Supreme Court. The foundation of our Constitution, separation of power between the executive, judiciary (SC) and the legislature has been suspended. Most tragic example is the manner Congress delegated its Power to wage War to the President.
Just a few NO votes!
“Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
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Cave!
“professional [Fitzgerald].”
Not so sure. He’s got a week left with this GJ.
And he is just now finding out that the deed was likely done in June, not July. Just now sourcing these records. Doesn’t sound very professional to me. Sounds to me like he dropped the ball. Sounds to me like he’s behind the curve. If he was my guy, i’d be chewing his ass off.
I think they’ve pretty much pulled the wool over his eyes. At a minimum this new information changes the theory of the crime and has to be reintegrated with the existing evidence. This is not good. What else is out there that he’s missed?
Fitzie didn’t miss a thing…Nothing has come out of his mouth…Perhaps he might be putting out a leak or two this week…The lawyers are spinning as much as they can. Fitzie is brilliant. He has waited until the last possible moment to get some important stuff out so the Rats that are remaining will flip. Time is running out DC rats…have your lawyers call me know before it’s to late. If this stuff would have come out earlier it would have given the players to get their stories straight..or straighter…Fitzie is gonna Make the history books next week..Watch and See..The house of cards is comin’ down.
I will pray that you are right.
2 things:
A follow up to my last reply to you about when Fitz found out about the June 23, 2003 meeting:
By Murray Waas
Web Exclusive: 08.06.05
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Again, Cat, i hope you and Chamonix are right. But my overall sense remains that he is today where he should have been 6 months ago. You see, I think the basic vindictiveness of the “Get Wilson & his wife” is pure unadulterated George, vintage George, as well as Cheney. And I dont’ think Fitz has knocked down the deniability wall around George. Not yet, and it’s almost too late.
Thanks for pulling together these well-written and deeply amusing pieces to make a clear and coherent picture.
The Judy Miller case was getting too intricate for any but fans to follow–you gave given us a wonderful update.