FISA was an ugly episode. It included things I don’t like, and was passed in a spineless and stupid manner.
What’s done is done.
FISA is done, and we cannot undo it. What will happen is that someone will sue about it, and it might get overturned. But I doubt that.
It’s time to move on, and get back to the election. We must remember that this bill would never happen under Obama (and, please, if you don’t agree, write your own diary). We must get back to the process of getting Obama elected.
We must have a larger Senate majority.
We must have a larger House majority.
We must win the POTUS.
I am hoping that no more FISA diaries are written. Dwelling on the past in politics is pretty useless. Who wants to go back and dwell on this unpleasant episode, which divides us and comforts our enemy? Better to move on and find things that help our side.
Time to move on.
So that is it??? Ready to surrender???
in the absence of civil liberties.
Good luck with that!
Take some time out from campaigning to read back into the Third Reich. Internationally we’re in 1937. Domestically we’re in 1933 or ’34. FISA sort of makes it official. In practice the US recognizes no rights of citizens whatever.
It is time to start thinking through the consequences.
I have probably read more about the 3rd reich than many professional historians. One of my enduring memories of my family’s life in Europe 1957-1962 was a visit to Auschwitz. I saw the ovens.
We are not in the 3rd reich. This was a very bad bill, and not helpful. But you are greatly mistaken if you think that this is the road to Hitler-style tyranny.
The essence of Hitler’s Germany was the Corporate State. He would have gotten nowhere without the backing of industrial cartels, let alone become Chancellor, and through at least most of the War he was doing what they wanted. The abolition of the (Wiemar) republic was certainly part of what they wanted.
The US is much the same–the abolition of the Republic (and its replacement by a shell) is very much part of the corporate agenda. Also (as with Germany), resource wars.
The point I was making–the parallel–is that our government is now in fact lawless, and that the reasons for this are the same.
To focus on the Holocaust is as much a distraction as it would be to focus on the US’ use of depleted uranium in Iraq: Crimes beyond measure, yes, but they give no clue as to the engine of events.
Death camps in the US? Well the Immigration Service has lost more than a few people who they took into custody. Will this scale up? Don’t be too smug. It took nearly a decade for the Nazis to move from incarceration to extermination. It is certainly too soon to tell, yes or no. I think they are thinking about it.
do-do-do-do-do
WHeet-wheet-wheet
Black helicopters at 1 O’clock
“We’re a civilized country. It could NEVER happen here!”
In all your reading, did you miss THAT?
Well, we will see.
For sure.