Simon Maloy does a good job of distilling the new Gallup data on Trump voters. They aren’t exactly who most people think they are. They’re not as economically distressed or negatively impacted by the loss of manufacturing jobs as is widely assumed, and they’re often more suburban than rural. Counterintuitively, “Gallup found that the only candidate who is viewed consistently positively in areas with higher concentrations of manufacturing jobs is… Hillary Clinton.”
And:
“People living in commuting zones with higher white middle-aged mortality rates are much more likely to view Trump favorably,” Gallup found. The analysis also noted people who live areas that have less “intergenerational mobility” also tend to have higher levels of support for Trump. Basically, if you’re in an area where white people are experiencing consistently poor health outcomes and younger generations are having less success at moving up the economic ladder, then you’re more likely to want to vote for Donald Trump.
Of course, we all know that race plays a major part in Trump’s appeal, but, again, not in the “a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality” kind of way. Trump voters are indeed overwhelmingly white, but they are not generally whites who have had negative experiences with minority crime or even much direct employment competition with immigrants of color.
What Gallup found is that one of the strongest indicators of Trump support is racial isolation: “Constant support for Trump is highly elevated in areas with few college graduates, far from the Mexican border, and in neighborhoods that stand out within the commuting zone for being white, segregated enclaves, with little exposure to blacks, Asians, and Hispanics.”
In other words, white people who live in segregated white suburban communities are much more alarmed about demographic change (the browning of America) than white people who live and work in pluralistic communities. This raises a chicken/egg nurture/nature question, because we don’t know if people gravitate to these communities because of their dislike and fear of minorities or if it’s primarily their racial isolation that breeds misunderstanding and mistrust. What we can be pretty sure about, though, is that they don’t want their communities to change or grow more diverse. They like things the way they are or that they were in the recent past. To them, the “Real” America is the homogeneous America they experience in their day-to-day lives, and outsiders are seen as unwelcome interlopers who should be regarded with suspicion.
The still-fuzzy picture of the “Trump vote” that emerges from all this is a bloc of voters who are acutely sensitive to economic decline (even if they aren’t necessarily feeling it themselves) and are more receptive to hypernationalist and nativist politicking due to their own racial and cultural isolation.
Thus, the typical Trump voter isn’t necessarily a laid off Stars & Bars waving redneck from Steubenville, Ohio. He’s more likely to be a father from a suburban white enclave of Cleveland whose kid can’t move out of the house because he or she can’t find high enough paying work or low enough rent. There’s a good chance that this kid is dabbling in painkillers and opioids brought to his community through Mexican drug traffickers. There’s a whole lot to Trump’s message that speaks to this father (and probably his wife, too), and he’s pissed off, more than anything else, about the bad prospects for his son or daughter.
So, what kind of messages do you think he’s interested in hearing from a Democrat?
I think he wants to know how you’re going to keep Mexican-supplied heroin out of his community, and how you’re going to make it possible for his kid to have the same standard of living and independence that he enjoyed at the same age. Trump offers vague and blunt instruments (building a wall, making deals), but he at least speaks to this man’s anxieties. Quite clearly, the other Republican candidates never did with all their talk of gay marriage and tax cuts and Benghazi.
It shouldn’t be all that surprising that lily-white areas with poor upward social mobility and declining health rates are Trump’s best enclaves of support. At the Washington Monthly, we’ve been hitting on these themes for a couple of years now, most recently in an exclusive from Mike Males, the senior researcher for San Francisco’s Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice.
In 2015 – in stark contrast to 1990 – teen gun-related deaths totaled 57, while teen murder arrests numbered 65. Overall in California, the crime rate among teenagers has dropped by 80 percent since 1980 – at the same time immigration has fueled a growing, more racially diverse young population, now 72 percent of color. The school dropout rate has also nosedived, as have births by teen and young-adult mothers. College enrollment and graduation rates have soared. These trends, moreover, are not unique to California. They’re happening nationally.
The flip side of young Americans’ astonishing behavioral turnaround is an equivalently dramatic decline among older Whites. In California, for example, the number of arrests among people over 40 in 2015 was nearly double the number of arrests among Black and Hispanic teens. Nationally, in a shocking reversal of past patterns, a middle-aged White is at greater risk today of violent death (by suicide, accident, or murder, and especially from guns or illicit drugs) than an African American teenager or young adult.
These stunning reversals of fortune among the generations could help explain one of the central mysteries of this year’s election cycle: why two such starkly divergent views of America – Republican Donald Trump’s grim vision of an apocalyptically degenerated America and Democrat Hillary Clinton’s sunny affirmation of a diversifying country’s bright future – are finding equal resonance. The short answer is that both portraits reflect equally valid truths about Americans’ experience today – depending on who and how old you are. While Democrats’ younger, more diverse constituencies are experiencing dramatic improvements in their personal security and behavioral well-being, Trump’s older White demographic is suffering rising drug abuse, crime, incarceration, suicide, gun fatality, and disarray.
The Gallup data on Trump supporters actually tracks quite closely to what we’ve been observing, but that doesn’t mean that Millennials have to live in all-white suburbs to feel that this economy doesn’t work for them. And, no matter where people live, parents are feeling the same way.
Yet someone raised those young people who are more comfortable with cultural diversity, and who are not suffering the way 40+ whites are. There is some kind of disconnect there. Baby boomers are the ones who raised those 40-somethings. The 40-somethings raised these better adapted young people. Something’s not tracking here.
I can’t quite follow.
I’m thinking of this in terms of a parent and grandparent–placing me in the boomer generation. We are the anything is possible/American Dream generation. K-12 was free; college was affordable w/o much debt. These forty-somethings are our children. On the one hand they got raised with false expectations about what they could expect for their children–on the other hand they raised children who are culturally adept. Now suddenly our children are mired in pain and despair and turning to opiates (and the resulting crime/violence) to cope? I’m trying to figure out what went wrong.
Or are you saying these issues are confined to the white enclaves? If our children were raised in culturally diverse environments, then their children were more likely to be culturally adept? And if they were raised in an enclave environment, they’re likely set up to experience a level of misery that can only be medicated?
Something’s just not making sense to me. Not criticizing your conclusions. I’m just struggling to connect the dots.
Can’t respond fully right now, but part of the issue (as seen in article block-quoted at the end) is that it’s the children of boomers who are crime-prone, suicidal and abusing opioids. Kids are actually doing better by every metric than their parents in terms of drug use, crime, self-harm, etc.
And that’s with an economy rigged against them.
Obviously, the opioid epidemic is nailing kids and nailing them hard, but still, the bigger problem is with their parents. Boomers might not have been the best parents, you know, what with the astronomical divorce rates, the latch-keys, the anything goes sexual morality (that led to the divorce rates).
I’m not qualified to characterize boomers as parents. I haven’t detected in my peers any greater or lesser degree of adequate parenting skills. We’re all over the map just like our parents and grandparents were.
I grew up in a broken home, was a latch-key kid–didn’t lead to drug or alcohol abuse. I’d be surprised if anyone could prove a strong correlation between divorce and substance abuse. Especially now when divorce carries little or no social stigma. It’s simply a fact of life. I watch my grandchildren navigate between the two households of their parents with grace and their eyes wide open. It forces them to be flexible.
I wonder if this is more about the ability to adapt to change.
I never trusted the “Trump voters are poor whites losing their jobs” narrative anyway.
It’s too forgiving; it’s too respectful of the right wing.
They don’t work in terms of directly-observable reality — they’ve always been about vague fears, nostalgic/romantic themes, statistically-insignificant anecdotal evidence (unions are bad because of this one thing I heard about once; black people are dangerous because one time I was told about this threatening scenario, etc.) and listening to authoritative sounding voices, like those in ads.
Lots of good links to dig into here, thanks
The very few Trump voters I know do not at all fit the stereotype of the poorly educated white who is unemployed/underemployed due to blue collar jobs leaving the nation in droves (due to rich people whom Trump pals around with).
The few I know are college grads with good paying jobs. I was surprised to learn that they were Trump voters. The few converstations I’ve had with them have not provided me with much of a clue as to why they think Trump is worthy of their vote.
The ones I know do not appear to be racist; they have friends from a wide diversity of backgrounds. They do express the generalized notion that Trump isn’t a politician, and he’ll “shake things up.” But despite questions, I never really got a good feel for how they want govt to run.
So, I’m stumped. The ones I know are in their mid to late 50s, which makes them the tail end of the boomers, I guess. They have a nice lifestyle that I don’t think has been especially affected by the recession.
I’ve also never bought the prevailing meme that paints a sympathetic picture of Trump supporters as people who’ve been “left behind” in the economy through no fault of their own. They certainly display no regard for others who may be struggling, if that happens to be the case.
It seems to me that most Trump supporters are your typical Fox/Rush people (of whatever age). The rightwing propaganda wurlitzer has spun out the whole line about how minorities, women, Muslims have ruined their precious lives. IOW, it’s all the “fault” of “others” that their lives may not be as good as was once promised by Uncle Sugar. Nowhere do I ever hear these people talking about the 1% and their culpability.
Trump blathers about Trade and promises to bring back “manufacturing and steel” jobs, but Trump doesn’t provide any clue how that will happen. Is that even what’s needed.
All I hear is super cheering when Trump talks about building the wall. Do these people really believe that’s going to improve their lives?
Eh? For me, it’s mostly about the usual suspects: racism, bigotry, sexism, xenophobia, etc. It’s what’s for dinner in Trump land. They’ve been empowered to be more forthright in their bigotries. woo hoo.
The one I’m best acquainted with is an older white male, defense contractor, well off, who loathes liberals and Democrats and would be happy to see Obama leave the White House in a coffin — in other words, a real wing nut, propserous variant.
Also a gun nut, of course.
“Rank-and-file voters bought into movement conservatism as an expression of cultural grievance and racism, not deep commitment to limited government principles.”
From a Vox article about the Sean Hannity/Steven Fox fight, where names were called.
I think that sentence sums up Trump voters. IOW, the usual rightwingers who’ve been nurturing their “grievances” against all of the “others,” including Libruls/Democrats, who’ve ruined their preciously perfect lives.
IMO, so much of the anger is ginned up by the noise machine. So much of it is useless but provides a great distraction, as usual, from who is really messing up the country and wasting everyone’s money. Here’s a clue: it’s not lazy shiftless minorities, nor is it terrible women who don’t know their place (in the kitchen), nor is it Muslims.
It’s always been about race and grievances against liberals. His biggest applause lines are the wall, harassing Muslims, and locking Clinton up. He talks about winning because his followers know they are losing the ‘culture war’, and they are mad about it. He loves the applause, so he always comes back to Mexicans, Muslims, and liberals.
And right now the media is a stand in for liberals.
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This mimics my experience with the few Trump voters I know. In this case they’re in lily white St Louis burbs. I can’t get my head around them.
The portrait of the “typical” Trump supporter that comes through most clearly is that they reside in communities that have been left behind economically, but they themselves have not suffered the sort of devastation their communities have. They’re likely to be employed and fairly well-off in a place where lots of people are poor.
This means that they are local elites. Relatively successful. Politically influential on a municipal, county and maybe even state level.
So these are communities where residents number in the thousands, and where hundreds of their most prominent and powerful citizens think that Donald Trump would make a good President.
Maybe we’ve got the cause and effect wrong here when it comes to economic anxiety and Trump support. Or, you know, racism and Trump support, for that matter.
My spouse has become increasingly distressed by the way many of her relatives support Trump. Most of these folks could be described as working class. They regularly post to FB stuff about how the Democrats facilitate massive voter fraud by “illegals”, say. They nearly all live in lily white communities. The more they’re struggling economically, the stronger their support for Trump. So, broad agreement with the picture painted by the Gallup results.
Look at the red state/blue state map at the 538 website, say. The states of the former Confederacy that lean towards Clinton are Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida. These are all places to which Northerners, including some African Americans, have been migrating in the last few decades. I doubt that is a coincidence. In-migration brings new attitudes, new behaviors.
Grumpy old white men.
Think you may be painting with too broad a brush in terms of causality here with the “suburban guy whose kid can’t move out and is hooked on smack” bit. But I wish Gallup would publish the data, because from a purely poli-sci perspective, I’d love to dig into it.
So it turns out that Trump voters are republicans. Who else were they supposed to be?
This is an interesting study, but note that these are the voting groups that stand out statistically in their support for Trump, not the only groups were Trump has support.
Fits with which of my acquaintances have jumped on the Trump bandwagon and which are despairing about this election.
One factor that has not been examined is market areas with high ratings for conservative shock jock media and percentage of disability.
I’ve noticed that the ambulatory elderly are less likely to be for Trump even if they are hardcore conservatives and disabled who sit in front o the TV all day more likely to be for Trump.
Struggling and angry small business owners are also more likely to be for Trump if the match with the geographic and demographic groups identified in this post.
What have we said for months? Those who would vote for Trump are the ones who have nothing to lose. They’re mostly white, male, and employed. And research shows that the more safely isolated one is, the more paranoid he becomes. But they know Trump’s insanity isn’t a danger to them, and they don’t give a damn about hurting others.
“Basically, if you’re in an area where white people are experiencing consistently poor health outcomes and younger generations are having less success at moving up the economic ladder, then you’re more likely to want to vote for Donald Trump.”
Yep. Blamers of others for their failures to learn skill or to maintain their health.
People who don’t take responsibility for themselves, and then are a drag on society for the rest of their lives. They end up in trailer parks.
If I sound like a Repug, I am not. But we all know sad pieces of shit like that. Go watch some video of Trump rallies. You will see exactly the losers I am talking about.
Help them? Be a good Democrat and help them? Sorry. Any helping is taken as enabling. And enabling means it never ends and they never become responsible.
And one time in their sad lives, some rich guy comes along and sells them the Brooklyn Bridge, and they buy into it. Only seriously stupid people live their lives like that.
Take pity on the poor? I grew up in the poorest family in a mostly hillbilly/ridge runner blue-collar town. I know exactly what it’s like to be poor. Poor doesn’t mean anything, if you put out effort and pay attention and get some education. And get the fuck to a more accommodating environment. And also take care of your health.
Trump should start a new party – the Blamers Party.