I know that many bloggers on the left have been ringing our alarm bells about Pakistan for awhile now.
Yet for years our government under President Bush assured us that Pakistan was one of our strongest allies in the “War on Terror.” Well, now David Kilcullen, a former top counter-terrorism adviser to General Petraeus (Bush’s hand picked general to lead US forces in Iraq and now head of CENTCOM) has joined those of us on the left who disbelieved the lies and deceptions of the Bush administration about the stability of Pakistan. Indeed, in a recent interview he said he believes Pakistan could collapse within six months.
Pakistan is 173 million people, 100 nuclear weapons, an army bigger than the U.S. Army, and al-Qaeda headquarters sitting right there in the two-thirds of the country that the government doesn’t control. The Pakistani military and police and intelligence service don’t follow the civilian government; they are essentially a rogue state within a state. We’re now reaching the point where within one to six months we could see the collapse of the Pakistani state, also because of the global financial crisis, which just exacerbates all these problems. . . . The collapse of Pakistan, al-Qaeda acquiring nuclear weapons, an extremist takeover — that would dwarf everything we’ve seen in the war on terror today.
Chilling. Pakistan is a country with nuclear weapons and ballistic missile delivery systems. Many in its its military and Intelligence Service (the infamous ISI) have deep and enduring ties to the Taliban, Al Qaeda and other radical Islamic terrorist organizations that have launched terrorist attacks against targets in India and Afghanistan (and, let us not forget, the US of A), too. Northwest Pakistan (a/k/a Waziristan) is completely dominated by such groups including the Taliban, and is the reputed hiding place of Osama Bin Ladin and his chief aides. Before President Musharraf was deposed and a democratically elected government restored to power, numerous assassination attempts against Musharraf were made by radical Islamist elements in the country, some of them members of the Pakistani military. Yet for eight years Bush and the Republicans (and a few Democrats still in Congress) ignored this obvious danger.
Just one more sign of how Bush has screwed up the world, not just America, by his insane/inane focus on Iraq and Iran after 9/11, when it was Pakistan all along which should have have been the clear point of emphasis of our foreign policy. Pakistan had the nukes, Pakistan had the terrorists and extremists. Iraq and Iran had nothing that posed an imminent threat to US interests or the security of our people. But then again, what would one expect from a man who invented the word “strategery” and who let himself be led around by the nose by Cheney and Rumsfeld?
Can this be fixed by Obama in 6 months? I highly doubt it. Pakistan’s military is obsessed with India, not with the insurgents, many of them groups which it developed and supported over the last 50 years. The Taliban after all, were essentially a creation of the INI. And the Taliban groups in Afghanistan and Pakistan are moving toward a unified front in opposition to the US.
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — After agreeing to bury their differences and unite forces, Taliban leaders based in Pakistan have closed ranks with their Afghan comrades to ready a new offensive in Afghanistan as the United States prepares to send 17,000 more troops there this year.
To be blunt, we are running out of time. Time to prevent what may very well be the most serious geopolitical crisis we have faced since the Cold War. Obama has announced his own “new” approach to Pakistan, but I’m not sure anyone in Pakistan who counts has bought onto what he’s selling. There are grave doubts that what has been proposed by his administration so far will prevent the worst case: a rogue state possessing nuclear weapons, led by radical ideological religious extremists with ties to terrorists.
President Obama’s strategy of offering Pakistan a partnership to defeat the insurgency here calls for a virtual remaking of this nation’s institutions and even of the national psyche, an ambitious agenda that Pakistan’s politicians and people appear unprepared to take up.
Officially, Pakistan’s government welcomed Mr. Obama’s strategy, with its hefty infusions of American money, hailing it as a “positive change.” But as the Obama administration tries to bring Pakistanis to its side, large parts of the public, the political class and the military have brushed off the plan, rebuffing the idea that the threat from Al Qaeda and the Taliban, which Washington calls a common enemy, is so urgent. […]
General Petraeus, in Congressional testimony last week, called the insurgency one that could “take down” the country, which is home to Qaeda militants and has nuclear arms.
Even before the insurgency has been fully engaged, however, many Pakistanis have concluded that reaching an accommodation with the militants is preferable to fighting them. Some, including mid-ranking soldiers, choose to see the militants not as the enemy, but as fellow Muslims who are deserving of greater sympathy than are the American aims.
It is problematic whether the backing of Mr. Zardari, and the Obama’s administration’s promise of $1.5 billion in aid for each of the next five years, can change the mood in the country, said a former interior minister, Aftab Ahmad Sherpao, who visited Washington last fall to meet with some of the people who are now officials in the Obama administration. […]
Then there is India. Its growing presence in Afghanistan — the building of roads; the opening since 2001 of two consulates in two cities close to Pakistan — makes Pakistan believe it is being encircled, said Ishaq Khan Khakwani, a former senator from the Pakistan Muslim League-Q party. […]
The deep questioning about why the Pakistani Army should fight the Taliban reaches well down into the ranks of the soldiers and their families. Dissent on that goal has become increasingly prevalent among rank-and-file soldiers, and even in the officer corps, said Riffat Hussain, a professor of international relations at Quaid-i-Azam University here who also lectures to soldiers at the National Defense University.
There have been at least a half-dozen reported courts-martial of soldiers who refused to fight, and the real number was probably larger, Professor Hussain said.
In short, what Bush always claimed he was preventing in Iraq may very well come to pass because of his misguided policy of neglect toward the real threat to peace and stability in the region and the world: Pakistan. But what else is new. Bush was the CEO president, remember? And much like the CEO of our major financial institutions his arrogance and shortsightedness, and his basic belief in his own reckless policies (invading Iraq, demonizing Iran, attempting to put control of Middle Eastern oil resources in the hands of US and British oil companies) blinded him to the country which really posed the only serious threat to the United States, Europe and India. A country that trained, supported and now harbors the very violent ideologues who allied themselves with the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11. A country slipping toward castastrophe, one we’ve been warned about quite recently by two prominent Senators, one a Republican and one a Democrat with expertise in foreign affairs and national security issues:
“We are running out of time to help Pakistan change its present course toward increasing economic and political instability, and even ultimate failure,” said a recent report by a task force of the Atlantic Council that was led by former senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and senator John Kerry of Massachusetts. The report, released in February, gave the Pakistani government 6 to 12 months before things went from bad to dangerous.
It may very well be too late to prevent this disaster from erupting in Pakistan. And if Bush appointed generals like Petreaus and his counter-terrorism expert feel that way, shouldn’t the US, India and Europe be preparing for the worst case scenario? To paraphrase Richard Clarke, the “experts” are “running around with the hair on fire” telling anyone who will listen to them that Pakistan is a tinderbox and its fuse has already been lit. I sincerely hope someone on the Obama administration is paying attention. We already know what happens when a President and his team ignore warnings of an imminent threat to our national security.
The blame for the potential failure and nuke danger of Pakistan lies fully with the failed, meddling policy of the U.S..
specifically, regarding the nukes, and I admit backup info is hard to find.. but I do remember reading the illegal transfer of nuke technology went from the U.S. to Pakistan during the bush I presidency– which was a violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
So– if Pakistan falls to the “extremists”, does that mean the U.S. military goes in to gather up the nukes and remove them from Pakistan?
Very good question.
No good answers!
Which is why, as much as I may not like it, calls for the US at this point to leave Afghanistan are ones I cannot endorse.
To paraphrase Oliver Hardy, “That’s another fine mess Bush has gotten US into”.
I disagree.
the U.S. does not need 50,000-80,000 troops in afghanistan to deal with the nuke problem in pakistan.
in fact, those troops may be in serious danger FROM a nuke attack coming from the extremists in pakistan.
want maximum damage to our people?
remember Lebanon? over 200 Marines killed by one truck bomb?
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as the drones take out his family?
the usa is digging its own grave here, enacting its Great Game for world domination, driving once (vaguely!) peaceable men to jihad.
so unnecessary, so tragic, o’s political capital burning on the pyre, as he does what he feels he must to placate his handlers.
Don’t forget Sibel Edmonds and the Turkey connection please. AFAIK, she’s still silenced by a gag order. You should be aware of all the dirty business that Sibel Edmonds came across when you’re discussing nuclear technology issues
Well good morning to you too, Steven!
I’ve had enough news about the economy, right wing nonsense and gun massacres in America. I’m moving on as they say. ;0)
As I’ve said, the collapse of Pakistan’s government is pretty much the worst-case “Sum of All Fears” scenario right now in the region.
India will not stand idly by, neither will China or Russia.
Things get apocalyptically bad from there.
This might be a good thing. Could we get the 4 powers to unit (producing captain planet I guess) and upon Pakistani collapse send in forces to secure and remove the nuclear weapons?
Given the fact that there are serious divisions within the military, between the military and INI, and that there is popular dissatisfaction with military government culminating in the fall of Musharraf and the successful protest by lawyers — given all of these divisions — who exactly will rule Pakistan.
I’m not sure about how much to trust any leader associated with Petreaus. There has been a lot of attempts by Bush holdovers to stampede Obama to possibly reckless action.
Doesn’t the “help Pakistan change its present course” rhetoric bother anyone but me? And why is it that there is worry about Pakistan from our military precisely when there is civilian control of the Pakistani government (if not the military) and a striking lack of concern when a military dictatorship is in control?
Here is my reading of the situation. Anyone who comes into control of 100 nuclear weapons will be made immediately aware of the policy of mutually assured destruction that any number of nations have (India no doubt among them). The game is no longer asymmetric; the potential losses are more proportional. And leaders like those of al Quaeda and the Taliban might recruit and train suicide bombers but are not likely suicide bombers themselves (it would cut short their mission).
The fact is that the closer we are to Pakistan and the more we try to do for them, the more counterproductive our efforts will be.
Secret diplomacy and the action of third parties however might be a productive US policy. And if we are engaged in this approach and it is successful you will think we are doing nothing.
Finally, what exactly is the “worst case scenario” and what exactly should we (along with Europe and India) be doing to prepare for it?
Securing any inventory of weapons is problematic. In a failing state such as Pakistan, the people themselves are at such huge risk and I’m thinking if security is breached the hoardes of black marketers will run over the sites making the looting of Saddam’s palace look like a picnic.
Even the likes of Valerie Plame and her team wouldn’t be able to track with lightening speed where the inventory travelled.
After 9/11 the first book I found was Eric Margolis “War at the Top of the World”. He predicted that the next global conflict would come out of Afghanistan & Pakistan. Good read even now.
Humanitarian Occupation.
I had the best teacher in my high school years. His subject was “Current Events”. The most important feature of his course was that he taught us to think INTELLIGENTLY about events that were occurring in the world around us, and to analyze their respective impacts upon nations and humanity in general. Our assignment was to read world events in the daily newspapers and be prepared to discuss our selections in class.
One of the most unforgettable points that he made in class was awareness of “The Balance of Power”. His thesis was peace in the world either globally or regionally can only exist when there is a BALANCE OF POWER among the nations in the respective area. Once the state of this Balance of Power is interrupted or shifted, peace will be the immediate casualty. Recently I have seriously regretted that George W. Bush wasn’t a member of our class so that he might have learned this valuable lesson. This might have given him pause before he invaded Iraq. In the region composed of India, Pakistan, Turkey, Iran and Syria, Iraq was playing a significant role as it contributed to the Balance of Power in the region. His father George H.W. Bush knew this, that’s why he left Hussein in power at the end of Gulf War I. Iraq’s cog type contribution to the Balance of Power in the region is highly complicated and involves too much text to go into here, however since the Iraq cog has been removed, the situation is sliding out of control.
George W. Bush White House paid General Pervez Musharraf hundreds of millions of dollars to keep the Pakistani military pacified and the Taliban away from the main centers in the country. This created the image for the west that Musharraf was actively fighting terrorism in the region, namely the Taliban. Americans need to know that the Taliban was created by the Pakistan ISI as a renegade force mainly to threaten India. The ISI remains the primary handlers for the Taliban. The ISI welcomed the opportunity for the Taliban to initially fight the Russians in Afghanistan and now fight the Americans. Their long range plans is to develop a battle hardened army to eventually participate in open war with India.
The timetable may be open to argument, but as long as the ISI exists the goal remains the same and that is to retake the states of Jammu and Kashmir. The ISI is essentially the secretive face of the Pakistan military who have definite expansion goals in respect to the nations position in the region. America cannot defeat the Taliban without crushing the ISI, and by extension the Pakistani military. However, if we step back and seriously look at the power structures in the region, we might be able to cleverly yet cautiously engineer the strengthening other players in the region such that at least a tentative balance of power is achieved. This is our only option in this part of the world.
Pakistan right now is so confusingly fluid that no one knows how it will turn out.
Consider this information about reaction to Taliban enforcement of its religious law (I won’t dignify it by calling it Shari’a).
Video footage of flogging sends shockwaves across country.