Susan and I have been harping on torture, religious humiliation, and the rendition program for a long time. Some might write us off as left-wing surrender monkeys. But there is something important to consider. All we’re doing is telling the truth. Unfortunately, the truth is not a very convenient thing for our nation right now. The following interview with CNN co-founder Reese Schonfeld should make that clear:
SCHONFELD: Abu Ghraib is the greatest foul up of all time. Those pictures were on the internet. The problem is not that we were – we – I only wish the Pentagon could have been able to deny that story, to be able to li – that’s the right of the Pentagon to lie, when it is in the country’s best interest to lie, you do lie. And when I made that statement in my book, an undersecretary – well – at Defense told me I don’t have it quite right, the – uh – Rumsfeld, the Secretary can never lie but any, anybody under him can, that you have to do it when it’s in the public, in the government interest.
News Hounds
But sometimes the truth comes out despite the Pentagon telling us lies. And that is when CNN and Chris Matthews and Faux News move to the next step: damage control.
But it doesn’t work. Even the editorial page of the New York Times refuses to go along.
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NYT: Bob Herbert
What might those ‘depraved ways’ be?
I didn’t write that. Susan didn’t write that. Bob Herbert wrote it in the New York Times. You know, the Gray Lady. The biggest, most respected paper in the country. Why didn’t Herbert’s editors spike the story in the name of patriotism?
Because they realize that the real way to protect the interests of the country is to force the country to stop murdering and torturing people, including totally innocent people.
A recent report from Physicians for Human Rights is the first to comprehensively examine the use of psychological torture by Americans against detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. The employment of psychological torture, the report says, was a direct result of decisions developed by civilian and military leaders to “take the gloves off” during interrogations and “break” prisoners through the use of techniques like “sensory deprivation, isolation, sleep deprivation, forced nudity, the use of military working dogs to instill fear, cultural and sexual humiliation, mock executions, and the threat of violence or death toward detainees or their loved ones.”
“Although the evidence is far from complete,” the report says, “what is known warrants the inference that psychological torture was central to the interrogation process and reinforced through conditions of confinement.”
In other words, this insidious and deeply inhumane practice was not the work of a few bad apples. As we have seen from many other investigations, the abuses flowed inexorably from policies promulgated at the highest levels of government.
Meanwhile, they are trying to put John Bolton at the UN, where our reputation will be further damaged. Don’t call us radical leftists. Call us truth tellers. The administration must step down. All decent people should demand it.
“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”
Keep up the good work! 🙂
Goosebumps again. You should be writing for the editorial pages of the top newspapers … if they’d let you (?).
It was like Monday night when Isikoff was on with Charlie Rose and — after they’d gone through the entire story of the Newsweek Periscope problem, the retraction, the investigation of the sources, etc., etc., etc. — and Isikoff just said, about Guantanamo, “It’s a black hole. It’s a black hole.” Charlie didn’t get where Isikoff was going in his mood shift, but anyone who listened got it.
It’s a black hole, like all of these policies of which you speak and Bob Herbert Speaks.
There’s no morality, no justice, no respectful process. And no light. Except those flickering rays put out by Herbert, the ACLU, CCR, HRW, AI, and other such groups.
I was just thinking the same thing…you really are an excellent writer, Booman.
I was having a conversation with someone yesterday, where we were wondering if the US government has always been this creepy, and it’s just gotten harder for them to hide with the internet as an information source, or if it’s gotten worse with this administration. We decided that the current regime is admittedly the worst ever, but that we did horrible things in Korea, Vietnam, the Congo, etc.
I usually assume that MSM would spike most of my writing. But Herbert’s piece shows that the walls are cracking. The dike will not hold.
You make everything very clear without also being too abstract. The references are there, to ground what you’re writing. Amazing skill.
Every American that holds to the ideal of our Constitution and its inalienable rights to freedom from tyranny, oppression and repression, should stand up and demand that the current administration and all its supporters need to resign. A free and fair election should be held immediately to reinstate a legitimate government that is free from the taint and stench of this regimes countless violations of basic human rights. I call forward all Americans to demand that any and all forms of torture, humilation or removal of basic human rights cease and desist, today this minute. I am disgusted and appalled that these heinous acts are being carried out in the name of the American people and I for one want it stopped NOW. Call, write,e mail or fax your congresspeople, Senators, state and local representatives and demand they start some action to stop this abuse of power.
Yesterday I found this message in my inbox from Barbara Boxer, I thought it appropriate to this diary so I am including. I am suggesting that we all write letters to Boxer with our concerns about the US use of torture as well, or perhaps someone, Booman maybe will write a letter and send it to her, with signatures from this site. Or send her this diary.
The survivors of this terrible experience require treatment to recover from the effects of torture and to rebuild their shattered lives. There are currently 30 torture treatment centers in the United States, all helping former victims to recover from the trauma of torture.
To aid in the effort to provide better treatment to more victims of torture, I have co-sponsored the Torture Victims Relief Reauthorization Act of 2005, which would authorize funding for both foreign and domestic centers for victims of torture.
By passing this legislation, we can address the ever-increasing number of victims of torture around the world with an effective, proactive plan. This assistance can provide a better, brighter future to those who have been victims of the terrible tragedy of torture.
Sincerely,
Barbara Boxer
United States Senate
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The unfortunate irony here is that we allegedly took out Sadam, at least in part, because of the way he treated some of his fellow Iraqis. And here we are doing the same, or worse, in the interest of spreading democracy.
outrage overload, maybe outrage numbness…
I can’t come up with the words to add comments here and there, all I can manage is rage and foul language. Some of this stuff is hard to read.
But whether or not I can respond, I want to know… I want it all out into the light of day.
And maybe ingraved on stone, in every statehouse, courthouse and federal government building in the country. I want it engraved on the floor of every room in the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court…
The only place it counts is the House of Representatives.
U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section. 4.
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Then again, there will probably be a DeLay in the proceedings.
Bushco and his rat bastard regime are GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES
That is what I want to see spread to every corner of our land. That this blight upon our republic is cleared away and we as a nation can begin to heal within ourselves and as a member of the world.
Right on Ghostdancer. We have all this anger and rage and hurt and shame and frustration and where the hell are we suppose to direct it. Oh, we write out LTEs and email or representatives and post our fury but what and where does this get us. There MUST be a way to get the GD media to wake up and tel the GD truth. Every time they give us a glimmer of hope that they grew a spine overnight, they retract or apologise for being either set up(read CBS here) or telling the truth. There has to be one American journalist that will be willing to tell the truth. But where are they? So far up the corporate masters butt they cannot see the forest from the trees anymore, if they ever really did.
Sorry gang, but I had to get that out.
You might want to turn your attention to this site, where these type of comments are made by people from the USA. in this article and forum about the desecration of the Quran. This is a site the middle east sees. This is an every day occurrence on the site when most Rep.Americans write comments and these comments are mild compared to some I have seen. I have copied as written, with all spelling problems which seem to have something to do with site and translating into Arabic and then back into English.
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=8179
Or check this comment made on another article forum by Paperboy from US on this subject:
Guantanamo “the gulag of our time”- Amnesty
5/26/2005 9:00:00 AM GMT
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=8181
It is obvious that most of these people are the neo-cons prized possessions. I would say all three failed to achieve anything in high school and probably quit in the 10 grade if not sooner. Not one of them have ever even heard of the Islamic holy book until this information started appearing. Let alone having read anything out of it. Religious intolance is a disease of the mind and soul. The insanity is starting to settle in on some of our more intellectually challenged brethern in the USA. The Neo-cons propoganda machine has been working diligently to create this uproar amongst these people.
Reese Schonfeld’s opinion on government, ethics, or journalism is obviously meaningless. He did something once. That was then and he is not the same person now. Now he is the person who developed People Magazine for TV, which peddles information we don’t need to know.
Schonfeld parallels the evolution of news. When CNN started out it was a serious news channel. Now look at it. Now look at him. Pathetic, really.