I was just listening to his live press conference. A reporter asked Bush about Amnesty International’s new report that calls Guantanamo Bay a “gulag.” Bush replied that “It’s ABSURD!” Good to know. We can go back to our daily lives now. (There was NO follow-up question to his remarks.)
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I’d give at least one major body part up to get a chance to ask the follow up. How can they simply let that go? It’s disgusting,depressing and I’m pretty sure the term morally bankrupt should fit in there somewhere.
I don’t have a transcript but I swear to God I heard this: “In our country you’re innocent until proven guilty”. Tell that to the detainees held without trial or charge, George.
The White House usually puts up a transcript fairly quickly … or check Google News or Yahoo News. That’d be great to get.
about the trial of Mikhail Khordorkofsky in Russia. The
NYT has this:
say that “innocent until proven guilty” and I had the same thought. As I was reading the ACLU documents yesterday, that was the ‘defense’at tribunal that at least one detainee used, he said over and over, “how can I be asked to prove my innocence, that is not American Law,Intl. Law, etc. ” and was repeatedly told that he did not fall under American Law or International Law, because he was an unlawful combatant. No law applies to them (detainees) but what Bushco wants it to be.
I just did a google search of proven guilty and I came up with this article from 2003 which I guess makes the point that you are now guilty until proven innocent in this country and have been at least since 2002 or 2003.
“I knew the US justice system. You’re innocent until proven guilty,” she says. “I just thought, you know, he would be questioned and just released.”
But her husband was held for 10 months in solitary confinement at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, New York. He later told his wife that “innocent until proven guilty” was not how it worked here.
Shokriea says her husband was threatened and insulted by others during his detention. But never charged with a crime.
Ali Yaghi, like Omar, was accused of overstaying his visa, even though his wife claims the government told him he would be getting his green card, his permanent residency, soon.
Shokriea never found out why the government treated her husband like a terrorist. Her husband had a lawyer, but the FBI wouldn’t say anything to him. They claimed they had secret evidence against Ali Yaghi.
Last June, the U.S. government deported Ali Yaghi back to Jordan – without telling his family.
“They held him for 10 months and then secretly sent him away,” says Shokriea, who says her children ask her every day when they will see their father. “I was not notified of it. Nobody was notified of it.”
“If we want to challenge secret trials of dissidents in Peru or China, we obviously have lost that moral footing when we treat our own people the same way,” says Rubin, who believes that detaining these Middle Eastern men has not made the U.S. a safer place.
“How are Muslim nations supposed to feel about the United States when their nationals are targeted without reasonable suspicion of having committed a crime?”
Thats why he made sure they are not being held “in our country.”
Tell that to Jose Padilla who has now been held for 3years and 23 days, a US citizen, with no charges and of course no trial.
Bush really does believe that he is a good person, and that anything bad he initiates is forced on him by the other side–the real bad people. So, he is not at fault; so, “Gitmo” cannot be equated to a gulag.
It is so sad: this man is so deluded, and is deluding so many others.
to reassure Americans. That will be a great comfort, for them to hear this from their President, through whom God speaks.
Did you hear him say …’what they are doing is’disassemble’ and that means not tell the truth.(I am paraphrasing him as I can’t remember exactly the phrase he used.
Isn’t it funny how he thought he needed to give a definition for a word like that and I think he meant dissemble, which made him look really stupid.
Hey, at least he remembered what his handlers told him that “really hard word” meant.
dissembling about disassembling Social Security.
I just heard that on MSNBC … I nearly fell off my chair. I cannot believe we have such an empty-suit idiot in the WH.
If I had the time, I would try to research every time the U.S. or a U.S. politician has cited or agreed with an Amnesty International Report on torture in another country. Amnesty cited Hussein for improper conduct…were their reports absurd then? Who else in the axis of evil has been cited by Amnesty? Were they absurd then?
Or has reality officially jumped the shark?
was glaring. The reporter asked him that if he supported a culture of life then how could he resolve that with the creation of multiple embryos in the in vitro process that will never be used. This is one of the logic gaps that frustrate me most about talibaptist logic. People opposed to embryonic stem cell research should also be opposed to in vitro fertilization because of the large number of frozen embryos that will never ever be used. Extending their logic that a life is created when the embryo is created, then how many lives are trapped in liquid nitrogen due to the actions of those pursuing in vitro fertilization.
is absurd.