This UPI article from June 14th, 2001, makes for some interesting reading.
by Arnaud de Borchgrave
United Press International
June 14, 2001
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan, June 14 (UPI) — Any fatwa (Islamic holy decree) issued by Osama Bin Laden, America’s most wanted alleged terrorist, declaring “jihad,” or holy war, against the United States and ordering Muslims to kill Americans is “null and void,” according to Taliban’s supreme leader.
“Bin Laden is not entitled to issue fatwas as he did not complete the mandatory 12 years of Koranic studies to qualify for the position of mufti,” said Mullah Mohammad Omar Akhund, known to every Afghan as amir-ul-mumineen (supreme leader of the faithful).
He also said the Islamic Emirate, as the Taliban (students) regime calls itself, has “offered the United States and the United Nations to place international monitors to observe Osama pending the resolution of the case, but so far we have received no reply.”
Omar, 41, is a soft-spoken man of very few words. He relies on Rahmatullah Hashimi, a 24-year-old multilingual “ambassador-at-large,” rumored to be Afghanistan’s next foreign minister, to translate and expand his short, staccato statements.
The one-eyed, 6-foot-6-inch, five-times wounded veteran of the war against the Soviet occupation in the 1980s was also the architect of Taliban’s victory over the multiple warring factions that followed the Soviet withdrawal in 1989.
Sitting cross-legged on the carpeted mud floor of his Spartan adobe house on the west end of town, Omar’s shrapnel-scarred face, topped by a black turban, shows no emotion as he answers in quick succession a military field telephone, walkie-talkies and a sideband radio.
“We’re still fighting a war,” he says impatiently, referring to Ahmed Shah Masud’s guerrilla forces that still hold 10 percent of Afghan territory in the northeastern part of the country.
United Press International was accompanied by UPI consultant Ammar Turabi, a Pakistani-born American who is the son of one of Pakistan’s Founding Fathers, Allamah Rasheed Turabi, widely respected in Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan.
Omar made clear to UPI that the Taliban regime would like to “resolve or dissolve” the bin Laden issue. In return, he expects the United States to establish a dialogue to work out an acceptable solution that would lead to “an easing and then lifting of U.N. sanctions that are strangling and killing the people of the Emirate.”
The two issues are linked, both in Washington and in Kandahar. (Kabul is the official capital; Kandahar, a sprawling, dust-choked city of 750,000, is the country’s religious capital where Omar and his 10-man ruling Shura (council) has their headquarters.)
According to U.S. intelligence reports, bin Laden has issued instructions, which his followers have described as fatwas. But Omar said, “Only muftis can issue fatwas.”
Bin Laden “is not a mufti and therefore any fatwas he may have issued are illegal and null and void.”
Omar’s aides remind visitors that pictures are not allowed under Islamic law. There are no portraits of Omar on the streets or inside stores and houses. Omar himself travels in a Land Rover with dark windows.
The Afghan supreme leader also said bin Laden is not allowed any contact with the media or foreign government representatives. Bin Laden himself has sworn fealty to Omar in a statement published locally last April:
“Amir-ul-Mumineen is the ruler and legitimate amir who is ruling by the shariah of Allah,” bin Laden wrote.
Afghanistan, according to the amir, has suggested to the United States (via the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan) and to the United Nations that international “monitors” keep bin Laden under observation pending a resolution of the case, “but so far we have received no reply.”
Hashimi, in flawless English, added, “We also notified the United States we were putting bin Laden on trial last September for his alleged crimes and requested that relevant evidence be presented. The court sat for 30 days without any evidence being presented against him. It then extended its hearing for another 10 days to give the U.S. side time to act. But nothing materialized. Bin Laden, for his part, swore on the Koran he had nothing to do with those terrorist bombings and that he is not responsible for what others do who claim to know him. If others acted in his name, that does not make him the culprit. Moreover, the Koran forbids the taking of the lives of women, children and old people in strife, conflict and war.”
Omar said the bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which the U.S. says bin Laden ordered, are “criminal acts and the perpetrators are criminals and should be so judged.”
Hashimi explained that the U.S. case against bin Laden was “based on a plea bargain, a concept unknown under Islamic law. Justice is black and white. Plea bargains pervert the very essence of justice.”
On Tuesday, a New York court sentenced one Saudi Arabian to life in prison in connection with the embassy bomb attacks: three more men — a Tanzanian, a U.S. citizen and a Jordanian — have also been found guilty and are awaiting sentencing. All claimed to have been acting on orders from bin Laden.
Bin Laden was America’s creation at the beginning of his career “and that was 16 years before Taliban came to power,” Omar reminded UPI.
After the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan Dec. 27, 1979, bin Laden worked closely with Saudi, Pakistani and U.S. intelligence services to recruit Mujahideen (freedom fighters) from many Muslim countries. They became known as Arab Afghans.
Encouraged by the CIA’s psychological warfare specialists, the Koran and the Islamic banner became the sword and the shield against atheist communism. After the Mujahideen forced a Soviet withdrawal after nine years of fighting, the United States closed down an operation that cost (shared 50/50 with Saudi Arabia) about $1 billion a year. Afghanistan, by then a war-ravaged country of 22 million with no working infrastructure, was left in the lurch by the earlier Bush administration.
Bin Laden’s career took a new turn after Iraq invaded Kuwait and President George Bush hammered together a 29-nation coalition that moved 700,000 military personnel to the Gulf region and defeated Saddam Hussein’s army.
Afghan officials in Pakistan, speaking not for attribution, said bin Laden remains convinced to this day that the United States “deliberately entrapped Saddam into invading Kuwait in order to occupy the region permanently and guarantee cheap oil from its corrupt Saudi puppets.”
U.S. intelligence believes that throughout the 1990s, bin Laden painstakingly developed a global terrorist network whose backbone is made up of embittered Arab-Afghan veterans.
In March, Pakistan’s leader Gen. Pervez Musharraf told UPI that by demonizing bin Laden, the United States had turned him into a cult figure among Muslim masses and “a hero among Islamist extremists.” Since then, the U.S. State Department has decided to play down the importance of bin Laden. Omar clearly wishes to do the same. But politically, he cannot afford to deport him lest he arouse the wrath of his fellow extremists and risk his own political demise.
His trusted No. 2, Mullah Rabbani Muhammad, who was his liaison with financial backers in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, died of cancer last month.
Omar in effect confirmed his dilemma when he said, “U.S. and U.N. threats and sanctions cannot force us to expel Sheikh Osama or to abandon our Islamic methodology. He is a Muslim immigrant to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and a guest of the Afghan people, and to expel him or extradite him is contrary to Islam and Afghan tradition. Moreover, if the Islamic Emirate and the Afghan people were to alter their stance regarding Sheikh Osama, many problems would result.”
Omar also said that bin Laden is “a hero of the war against the Soviet occupation of our country. He does not operate against anyone from the soil of Afghanistan. We requested that of him. We have his verbal and written pledge that he will abide by it in order that the relations between the Islamic Emirate with other nations are not affected.”
Unspoken, but confirmed by several non-official Afghan sources, bin Laden’s fortune, once reported to be about $300 million (he originally inherited $80 million from his late father, a Saudi construction tycoon), has been dissipated in largesse to the Taliban.
For Hashemi, “the fact is that the issue of bin Laden is just a pretext that America and the United Nations make use of to harm Afghanistan, which they falsely accuse of being a terrorist nation. If that were not the case, they would have provided the evidence or corroboration for their allegations against Osama.”
The last of three proposals put forward by Afghanistan is in line with a similar idea suggested by Musharraf in his March interview with UPI: a panel of three distinguished Islamic scholars — one each from Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and a neutral Muslim country agreeable to the United States — would examine the evidence presented by U.S. authorities. The third country most frequently mentioned is the United Arab Emirates.
Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the UAE are the only three countries that recognize Afghanistan’s present government.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE secretly fund the Taliban government by paying Pakistan for its logistical support to Afghanistan.
Despite Pakistan’s official denials, Taliban is entirely dependent on Pakistani aid. This was verified on the ground by UPI. Everything from bottled water to oil, gasoline and aviation fuel, and from telephone equipment to military supplies, comes from Pakistan, along the Quetta-Kandahar and Peshawar-Jalalabad roads. Until last month, the Afghan phone exchange was a Pakistani area code. Afghanistan now has its own area code (93) but many continue to use the more reliable Pakistani connection.
Asked about the U.N. decision to pull its political staff out of Kabul because of the Taliban’s interference with its activities, Hashemi is instructed to respond: “The U.N. wanted to recruit 600 Afghan women to conduct field surveys. That would have been more personnel than any of our government ministries. An NGO would have become a GO, a government within a government, and we said no.”
The questions that are most often asked were fielded by Hashemi, a highly intelligent high school dropout who toured the United States for six weeks earlier this year “battling feminists,” as he put it. Omar feels these questions have been answered repeatedly in recent months:
–On the lack of schools for girls: “We don’t even have enough schools for boys. Everything was destroyed in 20 years of fighting. The sooner U.N. sanctions are lifted, the sooner we can finish building schools for both boys and girls.”
–On the treatment of women: “”You forget that America and the rest of the world are centuries ahead of us. If you introduced your manners and mores suddenly in Afghanistan, society would implode and anarchy would ensue. We don’t interfere with what we consider your decadent lifestyle, so please refrain from interfering with ours. Do you tell your Saudi allies to change the status of women and adopt your lifestyle?”
–On the destruction of TV sets: “Try to imagine what would have happened in 18th or even 19th century America or Europe with the overnight introduction of television and all the sex that is now part of programs everywhere except Iran. We are not against television, but against the filth that pollutes the air waves. What reaches us from the former Soviet republics on our northern border, relayed from Moscow, is sex and more sex. The only acceptable programs are broadcast from Iran. But there is no way of filtering out the others. And if we had our own official channel, no one would tune in if the others were available. Remember how the Soviet Union tried to break down our resistance just before its troops invaded us in 1979? They broadcast tapes of women in mini-skirts that were not even allowed in their country at that time.”
–On distinctive patches to be worn by non-Muslims: “Everything we decide is immediately castigated as worthy of history’s bloodthirsty dictators. This decision was designed to protect Hindus who kept complaining to us that they were being harassed by the religious police for not going to the mosque at prayer time.”
Hashemi’s explanation was confirmed in man-in-the-street interviews conducted by UPI’s Pashto-speaking Pakistani security guard who blended easily into crowds with his regulation-length beard (one fist below the chin).
–On the destruction of the 1,500-year-old giant statues of Buddha last March: “It was an act of defiance against all those nations who cared more about our statues than about our people whose suffering has been compounded by cruel and heartless U.N. sanctions. I was in America when our decision was announced and called home to ask our leadership to reconsider. But I can see why I was overruled.”
Omar is a crack marksman who is credited with a number of Soviet tank kills during the Afghan jihad. He was wounded five times and lost his right eye to an exploding Soviet artillery shell that left two other shrapnel wounds on his right cheek and forehead. He turned down a Pakistani offer of an artificial eye. Taliban members say he is proud of having offered “this sacrifice to Allah for the sake of Islam.”
Omar resumed fighting after the Soviet pullout because he found the victorious mujahideen militia to be “corrupt and immoral.”
The son of a poor farmer’s family, he dropped out of a mosque school in the seventh grade in Jowzjan, a province that shares common borders with Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. Like bin Laden, he is neither a mufti nor a mullah. Both titles are awarded to men who have completed 12 years of formal religious education in mosque seminaries.
Omar himself, his associates say, does not issue fatwas, only “farmans” that are rulings and orders. Full-fledged mullahs on his 10-man Shoora put fatwa suggestions forward and Omar has the final word. He was declared amir-ul-mumineen at a congregation of 1,500 mullahs in Kandahar in April 1996. They all pledged allegiance by kissing his hand.
Is Taliban popular? Hard to gauge. Their official members are an estimated 20 percent of the population. Kandahar’s hustle and bustle has the almost identical appearance of any major town on the Pakistani side of the frontier provinces.
In Pakistan, the police carry sidearms. Not in Afghanistan.
Gen. Kamal Matinuddin, a Pakistani soldier diplomat and leading expert on Taliban, says in his recent book “The Taliban Phenomenon,” the Taliban’s sincerity, honesty and thorough devotion to their cause has been their main strength.
“Their ability to disarm the various militias and to maintain law and order, with a minimum of force, was their biggest achievement. Rough and ready justice, in accordance with Koranic injunctions, but mixed with Afghan traditions, and given out immediately without fear or favor, was appreciated by a people not accustomed to western laws. No talib (student) engaged in looting or forcible occupation of houses or doing anything for personal benefit, and this endeared them to the people.”
So, what’s on your mind this afternoon?
Whereabouts on the site is it? What’s it about?
Link goes to cntr for coop research…9/11 time line…is this what you’re ref’g?
Ruminating …
Human Events a conservative tax writeoff masquerading as a “Think Tank,” has published their list of ‘The 10 Most Harmful Books of the 19th & 20th Centuries.’ To wit:
Selected Honorable Mentions:
The full list is floating around the internet if you care to look it up – tho’ I admit why you would care escapes me.
For Booman’s benefit I will quote the summary of “Beyond Good and Evil” (as I want to read the rant that is sure to follow! 🙂
“An oft-scribbled bit of college-campus graffiti says: “`God is dead’–Nietzsche” followed by “`Nietzsche is dead’–God.” Nietzsche’s profession that “God is dead” appeared in his 1882 book, The Gay Science, but under-girded the basic theme of Beyond Good and Evil, which was published four years later. Here Nietzsche argued that men are driven by an amoral “Will to Power,” and that superior men will sweep aside religiously inspired moral rules, which he deemed as artificial as any other moral rules, to craft whatever rules would help them dominate the world around them. “Life itself is essentially appropriation, injury, overpowering of the strange and weaker, suppression, severity, imposition of one’s own forms, incorporation and, at the least and mildest, exploitation,” he wrote. The Nazis loved Nietzsche.”
The above is an amusing blend of misunderstanding, inept analysis, logical fallacies, and gross intellectual incompetence. (But I digress.)
I was going to let this go but in the May 29th issue of the L.A. Times (behind a subscription only firewall) was a short essay by Dennis Prager (who?) wrote:
“… conservative Jews and Christians share the belief that God revealed a text (a text, moreover, that we share). At the same time, liberal Jews and liberal Christians share the belief that this text is man-made.”
Which got me to thinking – a bad habit I’m trying to give up.
The list compiled by Human Events only makes any sense, to me, if the books therein are considered ‘Holy Writ’ in some manner. As long as a book is considered an example of Existential (possible) Truth the compilation of lists of ‘Harmful’ books is ridiculous. If one considers books as Universal (Necessary) Truth then the list makes sense.
If one holds – as I do not – a book is a Necessary Truth any book communicating Falsity, from this POV, can and should be put on an Index of Forbidden Books. Why? Briefly, if a book is Universally False it can only spread Falsity and ‘corrupt’ the minds who read it. Now, postulating corrupting minds is a Bad Thing should not older and wiser minds attempt to prevent it? Isn’t it a Moral Imperative a la Kant?
I don’t have the energy to rant. I will say this:
Beyond Good and Evil is a somewhat corrupting book, especially for the young and idealistic. Like strong hallucinegenic drugs, I don’t recommend it to the weak-minded or emotionally disturbed.
Moreover, the Nazis did like the book and the used it to cause much mischief.
But all that teaches me is that perhaps the Gnostics and Jack Nicholson were right, “You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth.”
I read this list a few days ago also and it seems to me the only good thing I got out of it was this list is that it shows exactly the depth and width of these whackjobs and their philosophy and how scary their thinking truly is.(of course I’m using the word thinking loosely here)
Lots of things are harmful, like beer, but as to books which (can) cause damage:
American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis
but if you forced me to make a list of the most harmful books I would include most of Plato, The Epistles of Paul, City of God by St. Augustine, Eusebius’s Historia Ecclesiastica, and the Edict of Milan.
Neo-Platanists are like the young idiots who read Nietzsche as a licence to act like, well, young idiots.
The failure of comprehension among the NeoCons (aka NeoPlatonists) is that they are exectly the sort of id driven and ill formed people whose existance led Plato to the conclusion that the best of mankind should lead despite the unrewarding burden of virtuous leadership. See my sig line-
but The Cave was such an insidious piece of sophistry that it has single handedly caused the rise of two world religions that have done more harm to human reason than any other factor in world history.
I am only using the same unforgiving method used to condemn The Communist Manifesto as the worst book in history. Plato should have reasonable foreseen that his works would be used by 20 year old students to mesmerize co-eds and take over the world.
Dualism is bad. Very bad.
But Plato as first cause of the dualism in Christianity and Islam (I assume these are the two your are speaking of) is a bit of a strech.
Blame Mr. Zoroaster, 1000 BCE or earlier, and his dualistic revelations and interpretations of the Avestas- of which Mr. Plato was quite familiar (see Alcibiades).
Zaroastrianism gave birth to most of the dualist threads in western religious thought as well, remember those wacky Manicheans?
And as my dear professor Avram used to say- “Christianity is just Zoroastrianism in a little Jewish tutu”
Moreover the Persian influence on early Islam is undeniable and many scholars have argued that many of the more sophistic aspects of Islam are derived from Persian (Zoroastrian) influence. Even Judaism has its Zoroastrian elements, most apparently in the Book of Esther.
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but Plato managed to maintain a respectable reputation, while Mani did not. Europe forgot all about Zoroastrianism for 1500 years. But they never forgot about Plato and his damn shadows and his ideal world.
“Plato is boring.”-
Friedrich Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols, What I owe to the Ancients
Please do tell – what do you view as objectionable in The Fountainhead? I found a soulmate in Howard Roark.
First off, there’s page one- followed swiftly by the equally vile page two. Page three is pretty bad and the thing just goes down hill from there.
Moving beyond my objection to the paper on which the book is printed and the numbers at the bottoms of those pages, I hate the font- both style and size.
Don’t even get me started on the actual letters- from a to z each and every one is vile.
And, oh yeah, never ask for literary criticism on a Saturday night 😉
However, one of these days I will do a a diary “10^15 reasons why I hate Ayn Rand” Here’s a sneak peek:
Reason number 22,486,923,125,482. One of the finest girlfriends I had in high school broke up with me after reading Atlas Shrugged.
Somehow. . . I just knew that was heading down the wrong path. . .call it intuition if you will. ;^) Ouch!
Thanks for the warning about Saturday nights and literary critiques. Good night!
picked up a clue from your sig line – lovely sentiment, by the way.
And now – for real –
Good night!
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0604-29.htm Does anyone remember the articles about Salinas having to close their 3 libraries? Well this link to an article in Commondreams by a writer named Anne Lamott is wonderful. A very lyrically written article and something to make you feel good for a change instead of getting pissed off by all the crap we read.
The Code Pink ladies were there also and at the end of the rally and reading event the 3 libraries are now going to be open for another year at least.
To me libraries are the veins that run through our country and nourish everyone no matter who you are. Closing libraries is akin to cutting a major artery and having knowledge of and from books just leak away while the wonder of reading would be denied to so many.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7371965?rnd=1117912317703&has-player=false
I seem to be busy putting up links today-this is another great article I thought in Rollingstone about Marla Ruzicka.
(as I also had a link on ghostdancers diary for a petition concerning Native Americans soldiers who are not getting the medals they deserved….)
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Riverbend – Bagdad – on Marla Ruzicka
by Oui Mon Apr 18th, 2005
Oui – Liberté – Egalité – Fraternité
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June 25, 2001 Saudi dissident terrorist Osama bin Laden tried recently to carry out a terrorist attack against Israel and will allegedly make another attempt in the near future. OC Intelligence Maj.-Gen. Amos Malka revealed in an interview on Israel’s Channel 2 television on Saturday night that “Bin Laden has tried, will try to reach us, and may even reach us here in Israel.”
June 26, 2001 Information has appeared that Osama Bin Laden, the Saudi Arabian millionaire terrorist living in Afghanistan, is planning a serious event against US and Israeli interests in the next two weeks.
The claim was made by Bakri Attrani, the correspondent for the Middle East Broadcasting Centre in Pakistan, who claims he met Bin Laden in Afghanistan. Although Bin Laden had said nothing, his supporters said “a severe blow is expected against USA and Israeli interests worldwide”.
Mr. Attrani stated that Bin Laden’s supporters were in a high state of readiness and that there was a general impression that his forces were fully mobilised. He reported the presence of the outlawed Egyptian Jihad group’s leaders, Ayman al-Zawahiri and Abu Hatas al-Masri.
It was claimed by the owner of the Middle East Broadcasting Centre, Waleed al-Ibrahim, who is the brother-in-law of King Fahd of Saudi Arabia. Bin laden said nothing because of restrictions placed upon him by the Taliban.
The Taliban, however, deny that Bin Laden is capable of making any terrorist actions because he is controlled and his actions are limited to Afghanistan, which shelters him despite his being the most wanted terrorist in the world. Bin Laden is wanted in the United States for allegedly being the mastermind behind the terrorist attacks on US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, which killed 224 people, including 12 Americans. The Taliban also refuted the authenticity of a video which was shown recently by the MEBC, where Bin Laden appears claiming “It is time to penetrate America and Israel and hit them where it hurts most”.
Oui – Liberté – Egalité – Fraternité
Before we left, Reza called a close aide of Massoud’s in Tajikistan to express our sorrow.
“I’m calling to find out that the terrible news is not true,” Reza said.
“It is true. But it is OK,” the aide said. “Now we are all Massoud.”
Story about 8 months(?) ago about a Marine med unit that held a clinic for the local village. They treated 400 people in one day. Mostly children. They were pissed because “the average American has more in their medicine cabinet than these people have in their clinic.” They had asked for medical supplies – aspirin fer crissake – and were turned down.
GW 1 broke it, GW 2 scattered the pieces.
Is anyone else having weird things happening with their browsers?
What kind of weird we talkin’ ’bout, Willis?
U.S. men’s national team playing Costa Rica on ESPN2 right now. World Cup qualifier.
Enjoy!
1-0 USA in the sixth minute. Beasley to Donovan.
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PSV Eindhoven
National Champs ◊ European Cup best 4
See Beasley play weekly!
Oui – Liberté – Egalité – Fraternité
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World Cup Qualifier
The Netherlands – Romania 2-0
(26′) Robben
(47′) Kuyt
National Team Coach – Marco van Basten
7 Wins ● 3 Ties ● 0 Defeats
PS Great defender Romanian side: Chivu!
Oui – Liberté – Egalité – Fraternité
Robben rocks.
Word is around the conservative voice that Kerry is going to bring up impeachment issue against Bush on Monday, here is link and do check out comments:
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6057
“”The Boston Globe published an article by Ralph Nader, Tuesday, in which Nader also called for President Bush’s impeachment. The story is being carried on Michael Moore’s website and the Democratic Underground. Failed presidential candidate Kerry advised that he will begin the presentation of his case for President Bush’s impeachment to Congress, on Monday.””””
Not to say the word “prejudice” but this thread was started at 11pm my time, hardly my afternoon 🙂
Seems old Rummy let off a few corkers on Friday at that ISS conference in Singapore, both from saying the Chinese were spending “too much” on their military (even with the highest estimate still not half of what USA spends!) and also saying Al-Jazeera makes America “look bad” because it shows beheadings of kidnapping victims. Say what??
First of all, all those beheadings, starting from Nick Berg on down, didn’t make anyone think America was bad but instead the kidnappers themselves. Does he really think the average Muslim or Arab or even Iraqi cheer when they see some aid worker or journalist’s head getting chopped off? That’s sick… and untrue.
Rummy is just angry that Al-Jaceerz is one of the few widely watched media organizations in the world which doesn’t kowtow to the government line. There are a few others, like the Beeb, but they’re so western and stuffy about showing graphic stuff that it fails to have the same impact.
I remember watching MBC years ago (a Saudi channel I believe) and they’d show real blood and guts on TV, in those days mostly Palestinians getting shot. It’s something no British or American channel would ever show simply because it was a human being dying, but it’s still the truth, it’s still the news.
To this day I will never understand why it’s ok on American and western channels to show simultated death, serious injury and blood but either outlawed or de facto censored to show real death, serious injury and blood. Why????
A child growing up in America may see 10,000 simultated murders on television by the time s/he is 5 but they won’t see a real one. And all those Iraqis, Americans, Ukrainians, Bulgarians, Romanians, British and others dying in Iraq right now are all real deaths. If the U.S. public is going to pay for them, they should see what they’re getting for their money.
War is horrible. If its the “only” choice, which I disagree with, but if its the “only” choice, then it should be seen in its horror and awfulness not relegated to splashy graphics and advertising logos like “shock and awe” and “Operation Matador”.
They showed more real footage of death and destruction in newsreels in American cinemas during WW2 than they show on television today. Has that irony escaped anyone?
Pax