Lech Walesa, speaking about the torture cases committed by the US, has spoken out against it. In an interview with the Red Cross, he recounts his own days of imprisonment by the Polish Government and then turns to the US. Here are the relevant quotes:
Terrorism, as we are witnessing today, is a leftover from the two-bloc confrontation of the Cold War. Both superpowers equipped various groups, organizations, and even whole nations to fight the enemy. When the Soviet Union collapsed, these groups and nations suddenly found themselves in a vacuum. Now, they are fighting their own private wars. Since no considerable concern has been shown to these people — we have not assisted in their development, we have not supported their education, nor have we financed their transition — many of them now resort to violence.
In many ways, we demand they open their closed societies, their economies, and adopt our values, but at the same time we close our borders to them and close our economies to their products. We have to find new ways to deal with this unsatisfactory situation. I see a great responsibility for Europe and its governments to cooperate with America on this task and acceotable on both sides of the Atlantic and worldwide.
And another bit:
This is not a partisan political battle. Walesa was a crusader against Communism and as such is a hero to the right as well as the left. Every person who aspires to be a moral authority must speak out against torture and vote against candidates who do not do so.
for a conservative”.
One of the pet theories is that peoples who live under communism generally become conservatives as they form new governments. Eastern europe and the Cubans in Florida are two good examples.
He is right and he is also a hero IMO.
I think the Vietnamese vote Democratic as far as I know. Havel was pretty liberal.
This is a strange convergence with our earlier discussions of gender politics.
Solidarity owes it’s beginning to Anna Walentynowicz and Alinsa Pienkowska. When the Lenin shipyard acceded to strikers’ demands, Lech Walesa agreed they’d return to work, but the two women insisted that all the yards striking in sympathy be included in any settlement.
During Walentynowicz’s imprisonment under Polish martial law, the men of Solidarity took over, ridiculing the women, and accusing them of insanity . They succeeded in erasing Pienkowska and Walentynowicz from the “official” history of the movement until the Jane Atkinson interview in MS Magazine.
Alinsa Plenkowska continued to work as a nurse at the Lenin yard until 1990; she died in 2002.
Anna Walentynowicz was finally awarded $23,000 compensation in March, 2005, for the illegal incarceration (and torture) that ruined her health. Now 75, she has often found it difficult to buy her meds on $433 a month.
Lech Walesa received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983.
In 1990, he was elected President of Poland.
Even circles struggling for freedom, like Solidarity. The sooner we can get out of denial over that and assume that sexism only happens among the “bad guys” like the Communists and the right-wingers, the sooner we can achieve true equality.
I am wondering if the repug pundits will now assault Lech with their punditry, you know, left leaning communist that never really changed his spots and after all that Ronnie Raygun did to eliminate communism in Poland. I can hear them now, spinelss, weasels that they are, is it any wonder that none of them have an ounce of courage, a inch of human kindness, a drop of decency within any of them.
Karl Rove would attack Jesus Christ if he returned and ran for President.
Well… Ronnie Raygun had a little help from the AFL-CIO, whether his worshipful following would like to admit it now or not. Folks like Lane Kirkland and Rex Hardesty
Walesa received secret aid from Pope John Paul II, the Reagan administration, and the AFL-CIO in the United States led by Lane Kirkland. What a combination!