Just in, from David Sirota:
Roll Call has a new report up … about House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D) holding an emergency meeting of the House Democratic Steering Committee tonight to discuss formal sanctions against the 15 Democrats who sold out their party and voted for the corporate-written Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA). Pelosi raised “the likelihood that defectors’ committee assignments would be reviewed at tonight’s meeting of the Steering Committee.” That’s absolutely necessary – why should Democrats who undermine their party be given plum committee assignments over other, far more loyal and principled Democrats? Pelosi should be commended for her courage – and now she needs to back up her words with action. …
BELOW, the Roll Call story:
July 28, 2005
By Erin P. Billings,
Roll Call Staff
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), angry that some of her own betrayed the party on a key trade vote, called a last-minute, Members-only meeting tonight to review the early-morning balloting and the reasoning behind defectors’ votes.
Pelosi called for the special session of the Democratic Steering and Policy Committee at a private whip meeting this morning, during which she said she “had a sleepless night” over the Central American Free Trade Agreement vote that narrowly passed early in the morning. Sources in the room said Pelosi was furious at the outcome and the votes of some of the 15 Democrats — notably some in safe districts — who joined the Republicans to pass the bill.
“I’ve never seen her like that,” described one Democratic aide who attended the meeting.
While sources insisted Pelosi has not called for any retribution in the Democratic Caucus, she left open the likelihood that defectors’ committee assignments would be reviewed at tonight’s meeting of the Steering Committee, which helps determine Members’ placement on panels.
“There’s going to be a lot of discussion at the meeting, however it’s going to focus on a certain group of Members who have no explanation for their votes. That’s what it’s going to focus on,” said a senior Democratic aide. “There are a handful of members who have explaining to do.”
Another leadership aide said, “there are Members who have questions” about why some of their colleagues voted for the bill, and they want a venue to discuss the outcome. This source said it was unclear whether Members’ committee assignments would be in peril.
“There are Members who don’t seem to have any sort of reason for voting the way they voted,” this aide said. “While other Members who have tougher districts made the tough decisions.”
Pelosi, according to sources, told Members at the whip meeting that there are “expectations” that come with top committee assignments. She said both privately and publicly that the votes would be reviewed on “a case-by-case basis,” noting that many of the 15 defectors needed to vote for the bill given their districts and political situations. A good share of the 15 are vulnerable Members facing tough re-elections.
“I think we will have some conversations in our Caucus,” she said at a press conference. “These are 15 different people. Judgments are different for different people.”
Pelosi added: “It’s not about retribution. It’s about managing these votes.”
Sources said many Members and leaders are also concerned about alleged deal-making that ensued leading up to the vote. Pelosi told reporters the House floor turned into an episode of “Let’s Make a Deal” and that for days leading up to the vote Members had “offers made” to them
She even charged that ethics rules may have been broken, and that some Democratic Members who were approached may be considering filing a complaint.
“I think this has to stop, we have to stop this Republican rip off,” Pelosi said. “I find this shameful. I am very unhappy about how things turned out.”
Several Democratic sources said Pelosi and other House leaders are particularly upset with New York Reps. Greg Meeks and Ed Towns, members of exclusive committees with safe seats, who voted for CAFTA.
Meeks insisted he voted for the measure because it was good for the economy and job base of New York as well as Latin America. He said he was lobbied heavily on both sides and offers were flying, but he refused to take any deals.
“Though my heart is with my colleagues and I understand there was a lot at stake, my head told me the right vote, to vote my conscience and vote for the agreement,” Meeks said.
Meeks said he “knows many of my colleagues are disappointed” [but] his colleagues know he is with them “90 percent of the time” and on this particular bill they simply “have a difference of opinion.”
But some Members and aides said the vote might not be that easy to get over.
Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), the Senior Chief Deputy Minority Whip, privately told Members on Thursday morning that he was extremely disappointed in the vote, and made clear that Democratic votes should not be for sale. He said later he thought “some of my friends cast their votes for special interests.
As for the Steering meeting, Lewis said he expected Members to vent their feelings and discuss the outcome.
“We’ve got to talk it out, we’ve got to talk this out,” he said. “In the final outcome, I don’t think people are going to forget what happened. Members who didn’t have to worry about their future and who are in very safe districts didn’t have to vote the way they did.”
A day late, but better late than… oh, fuck it. I just got another one of Pelosi’s silly assed “surveys” in my mailbox. My first thought after the CAFTA vote was, get your owned damned house in order! Didn’t do it after the bankruptcy bill…
I must add that this is the fourth fundraiser in silly assed survey’s clothing I’ve received after responsding to the first three by saying, “If you want my money, you’d gonna to have to do a better job looking like you have the slightest bit of interest in my opinion.”
The silly assed “survey” is nothing but brand destruction via US mail. If the Dems want to be the party of the people, they’re going to have to do a better job of showing that brand value at every point of human contact.
I emailed Representative Pelosi.
None of the 15 are in my district, I’m stuck in red-ville in a blue state. But, I will be emailing my representative just the same.
that link to email does not work if not a constituent, so although I know email is limited in its effectiveness, apparently even more so in this case.
Snail mail time I guess. She is still the House Minority Leader, and I think I’ll use her statements against CAFTA in the letter I will write.
Does this mean they could kick Moran-VA off the Appropriations Committee? I think his ability to bring pork to his district is the only reason he gets re-elected.
IIRC Moran’s in a fairly tough district, one that overwhelmingly supports NAFTA, CAFTA, Patriot Act, et al. From the article it seems like they are going to focus on those Democrats whose constituency didn’t demand a YEA vote, and that wouldn’t apply to Moran.
Personally, if Pelosi follows through and reassigns some folks’ committee assignments then she will have earned a little cred with me – her dealings with Howard Dean have soured me on her.
I live in Moran’s district. He’s in a safe district that I think doesn’t really have much to do with CAFTA/NAFTA. It has a large military/defense contingent and a lot of federal workers. But there is no reason for him to vote in favor of CAFTA and as his constiuent, I let him know it this morning.
My own congressman, Dennis Moore, is on the wrong side of this vote, as he is on too many votes. His seat is never safe, but geez, he got 55% last time, and I think he could have risked this one.
What a box we’re in, here in my county. No Democrat is going to run against him, and every Republican who does is so batshit loony that you couldn’t live with yourself if you didn’t defeat them. Leaving us with Dennis, a very nice man who keeps voting against our best interests.
I hope Nancy does levy some discipline; these Congressmen like Dennis have for too long been between a rock and a soft place.
Cross-posted at DailyKos, where the sentiment is running the other way … that Pelosi should be careful.
I read those comments–mostly by 2 or 3 people, I think, though they will no doubt be joined by more. This business of letting Dem’s vote their conscience? Ha. I wish my Rep would/could vote his conscience! (I don’t actually know what his real, honest-to-god personal viewpoint is on the matter, so I don’t know if he did or he didn’t.) Party discipline in cases like this could actually make it easier, not harder, for people in unsafe seats to vote their conscience instead of their careers.
What’s there to be careful about? I think enforcing the democratic platform should never be optional. Never. CAFTA is terrible for workers here and in Central America.
All but two of our North Carolina reps voted against this, two Republicans. If CAFTA was a safe vote in red NC, and it was safe because of our incredible job loss numbers, it was safe in any district with job losses. Tell me where there are job gains?
The only reason to support CAFTA was campaign $$$$$.
I came here for some sanity because the comments at dkos were really disturbing me. I mean, it’s like people don’t want to ever be in the majority again.
Who came up with this notion that we can’t blame people for “voting their conscience”? Should we stop running against Republican incumbents, because after all, the Reupblicans are just “voting their conscience”?
CAFTA is an absolutely critical issue for the identity of the Democratic Party, if we ever want to be clearly identified with the interests of working-class people again. If we want to blame the Republicans for lost jobs due to CAFTA in 2006, 2008 and beyond, it has to be made absolutely clear that the Democratic Party exists to fight things like CAFTA. Every Democrat who votes against the party not only gets a bad treaty passed, but harms the ability of the Democratic Party to articulate a clear message for electoral victory down the road.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking Democrats, even if they happen to favor CAFTA, to take one for the team on a vote as important as this one. I support Pelosi’s actions 100%.
About time. Definitely needs to be more of this behavior by the Dem leadership.
This is her job, plain and simple. She’s doing the right thing. You don’t reward turncoats. Republicans do the same to their defectors, and unsurprisingly those defectors suddenly become few and far between.
at the very least admonish those who’s districts were considered safe. Dennis Moore has let down the progressives now twice in the last two weeks with his votes. Damn, I can only hope that he wins by a larger margin this next election.
Kansas any sign that wingnut Kobach is going to run against Dennis next year?
I’m having dinner with a Moore fundraiser tonight, as it happens, so I’ll ask. I’ll also ask her what it might take to make him feel safe enough to vote with his party!
The thing about the Repubs who run against Dennis is that even if batshit loopy Kobach doesn’t run again, there’s always another loopy one in the wings. We have a lot of “moderate” Republicans, but they don’t run for Dennis’s seat. If one of them did, Dennis would probably lose, even with Kansas City, Ks. voting for him, because all those moderate Repubs wouldn’t have to put up “Republicans for Dennis Moore” signs in their yards anymore.
Mine, Norm Dicks, is very safe … I forget the margin he won by last time, but it was big.
He’s very attentive to district needs. He does have to be careful because this district includes Bremerton, which has the huge U.S. Navy nuclear submarine and ship base.
I am just scratching my head over that one.
Just why in the hell did he vote for CAFTA? I don’t remember him voting for NAFTA, but I could be very wrong. But I do remember he’s from a safe district. What was he thinking?
Same thing w/ Skelton–he’s from MO! Why is he voting in favor of a free trade bill?
Ghostdancer, what I heard at dinner was that Kobach says he’s not going to run again, although who knows if that’s true, and that nobody else has popped up yet. Not having an opponent makes it harder for Dennis to raise money.
I wonder if Taft will run against him again. He’s a stronger opponent than Kobach and a lot of people think that if the national GOP had given him any help he’d have beat Dennis in the election before this most recent one
Somebody at dinner pointed out that Dennis probably shouldn’t be pissing off Lawrence, which is such a big source of money and grassroots work for the Dems. And Lawrence isn’t going to like these recent votes of his. (For non-Kansans, Lawrence is a town, not a person. Home of KU and the only blue spot on the state map, a place where people are still driving around with Kerry stickers.)
It’s all speculation. I don’t really know nothin’ ’bout nothin’.
One of them was my Bill Nelson, and we are not permitted to question him here. The mindset here in Florida is that Nelson is all we have. If we criticize his bankruptcy bill vote…shhhh.. If we criticize Schiavo vote…shhh. I don’t dare say a word about his CAFTA vote.
Here are the ones who voted yes, from a post at MyDD
The U.S. Senate approved the Central American Free Trade Agreement today by a vote of 54-45, clearing the second to last hurdle to implementation. The House of Representatives is planning its vote for sometime after July 11.
The vote is the smallest margin for a trade agreement in the normally pro-trade Senate since at least 1993 when senators approved the North American Free Trade Agreement 61-38.”
The Senate Democrats who voted YES could have turned it. Thanks, Bill Nelson, Florida. We had a talk about that, didn’t we?
Bingaman (NM)
Cantwell (WA)
Carper (DE)
Feinstein (CA)
Jeffords (VT)
Lincoln (AR)
Murray (WA)
Nelson (FL)
Nelson (NE)
Pryor (AR)
Wyden (OR)
These are the YES votes.
Friggin’ Feinstein. Just seeing her name gets my blood up.
I wrote Pelosi (and she is my rep) that the defectors who sold us out should be punished and THIS HAS GOT TO STOP. It was a bit of a rant.
Feinstein is an idiot. I wrote her several times about her rediculous votes. I always try to give them the benefit of the doubt on some issues as I know they cannot always vote the way I like but she hardly ever does. I really dispise her and told her she has lost not only my respect but more support finacially and vote wise.
had a very strong segment on the CAFTA vote tonight – it’s worth a look when the transcript is posted. He very strongly suggested that the WH was buying votes.
Lou Dobbs hates NAFTA/CAFTA and anything else like it. I’m sure he blew a gasket when he heard that CAFTA passed.
Go Nancy! Taking leadership lessons from Sen. Reid perhaps?
And what in the world is up with Melissa Bean? A year or so ago she was the Illinois Democrats and netroots darling girl. She ousted the longest tenured Congressman in Phil Crane and the future looked bright.
But have my eyes deceived me or has she been on the wrong side of just about every critical vote since?
Anyone wanna tell me what’s wrong with this woman and why she wants to only be a one termer? Anyone want to explain why we should just vote Phil Crane back in and have a more accurate accounting of the House voting numbers?
Do it, Pelosi! Just do the damned thing.
Impressed as I am that there were only 15 defectors (I know, what a pity I think that’s progress), there should be some consequences. We were just too damned close for them to throw it away.
ESPECIALLY if you’re in a safe seat.
OK, so forget the fact that CAFTA will screw the American people. Fine. But damn if ain’t cutting off your nose to spite your face. Even if all they want is power, they didn’t help themselves by this vote. So somebody is giving them a li’l bit more $$$–big friggin’ deal.
They’ll give the repubs more, while the fucked up fifteen goes begging for crumbs.
Now tell me how that makes sense? Just from an “I want power” standpoint?
Exactly.
The CAFTA vote also shows why selecting so-called “centrist” candidates on the basis of their electability is a losing strategy ultimately. While it may lead to majorities in congress, chances are democrats won’t be in any position to capitalize on that majority as you’ll always have to deal with the sell-out group repeatedly voting with the opposition.
This is great news.
It’s about time party loyalty was enforced on important legislation. If the turn-coats don’t like it they can leave the party.
No quarter should be given on this.
If Democrats aren’t going to stand up for regular people, to hell with them.–Molly Ivins, writing about the “bankruptcy reform” bill that absolutely screwed the American working class (and which passed with a lot of Democratic assistance).
It’s time for Pelosi to enforce party discipline. If any House Democrats want to “jump ship” and formally join the Republican Party, let them–the party should then throw everything it’s got into defeating these traitors instead of tolerating their continuing betrayals of the people they are supposed to represent.
If it hurts American workers but helps Latin American workers, then I can’t oppose it–I’m more of a worldwide than Americacentric progressive, as I’ve talked about before. It may well hurt both camps, though, I don’t know.
But in any event, I wish Pelosi had gotten this irate about the 79 Democrats who voted against her on the outrageous show of support for Guantanamo. I suppose she might see that as too large a group to punish, and also point out that it would have passed without them anyway, but I’d argue that it would have sent a much better message to have Democratic unity on that one.
-Alan
I agree that this is not the issue to go to the mat on. Free trade is a very complicated topic, and there are plenty of good arguments on both sides of the aisle. FDR was a strong free-trader, for example, and note that this was not a slam-dunk for Bush on the Republican side.
If Pelosi is going to take people to the woodshed, there are plenty of issues where the sides are more clearly defined…
Ask the Mexicans how much NAFTA helped them.
It helped them for a few years…until the capitalists found even cheaper labour in China and other Asian countries.
The factories along the US-Mexican border have been closed or are operating at reduced capacity…the factories and jobs went to China.
CAFTA isn’t aimed at helping any working class person of any nationality; it’s intended to fatten the profits of multinational mega-corporations.