The NYT new lead story: “Cheney Told Aide of C.I.A. Officer, Notes Show.”
WASHINGTON, Oct. 24 — I. Lewis Libby Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, first learned about the C.I.A. officer at the heart of the leak investigation in a conversation with Mr. Cheney weeks before her identity became public in 2003, lawyers involved in the case said Monday.
[…..]
Mr. Libby’s notes indicate that Mr. Cheney had gotten his information about Ms. Wilson from George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence, in response to questions from the vice president about Mr. Wilson. But they contain no suggestion that either Mr. Cheney or Mr. Libby knew at the time of Ms. Wilson’s undercover status or that her identity was classified. Disclosing a covert agent’s identity can be a crime, but only if the person who discloses it knows the agent’s undercover status.
The article says that Tenet did not testify and “had been interviewed by the special prosecutor and his staff in early 2004.” “Mr. Tenet has not talked since then to the prosecutors, [a former intelligence] official said.” The NYT couldn’t reach Tenet for comment tonight. Hmmm.
Also: The NYT is referring to the 1982 law here. I think they’re wrong. But I’m going to toss this up and read the article again thoroughly. Also:
It would not be illegal for either Mr. Cheney or Mr. Libby, both of whom are presumably cleared to know the government’s deepest secrets, to discuss a C.I.A. officer or her link to a critic of the administration. But any effort by Mr. Libby to steer investigators away from his conversation with Mr. Cheney could be considered by Patrick J. Fitzgerald to be an illegal effort to impede the inquiry.
[T]he notes, now in Mr. Fitzgerald’s possession, also indicate that Mr. Libby first heard about Ms. Wilson — who is also known by her maiden name, Valerie Plame — from Mr. Cheney. That apparent discrepancy in his testimony suggests why prosecutors are weighing false statement charges against him in what they interpret as an effort by Mr. Libby to protect Mr. Cheney from scrutiny, the lawyers said.
The notes do not show that Mr. Cheney knew the name of Mr. Wilson’s wife. But they do show that Mr. Cheney did know and told Mr. Libby that Ms. Wilson was employed by the C.I.A. and that she may have helped arrange her husband’s trip.
OOPS! There goes another …. Oops! There goes another …. Oops! There goes another Republican Talking POINT!
(You know, the GOP talking point that Wilson was saying that Cheney requested he take the Niger trip, which Wilson did not say. The same point repeated ad nauseum by Andrea Mitchell and Chris Matthews. Andrea Mitchell even said that Joe Wilson lied about the Cheney connection. Even though she has the story all wrong — Wilson said no such thing — it’s also clear that Cheney indeed was aware of Mr. Wilson’s trip arrangements.)
[T]he evidence of Mr. Cheney’s direct involvement in the effort to learn more about Mr. Wilson is sure to intensify the political pressure on the White House in a week of high anxiety among Republicans about the potential for the case to deal a sharp blow to Mr. Bush’s presidency.
I bet so.
And, in the first paragraph, ” lawyers involved in the case said Monday” refers, surely, to Joseph Tate, Scooter Libby’s attorney whose veracity has been questionable in dealings with Judith Miller’s attorneys and it was only through the direct intervention of SP Patrick Fitzgerald that the roadblock before Ms. Miller’s release from jail was removed.
Whenever I hear the words Tenent and Fitzgerald mentioned in the same sentence, my cockels immediately get warm.
We seem to forget that Tenent is, more than likely, a source for Fitz.
Do NOT fuck with the Company.
George T and The Company may be a little pissed themselves…from the Washington Times op-ed page:
Subsequently, Porter Goss, the new CIA Director, declined to pursue the matter for “national security” issues and the report was squelched.
An interesting read and something that really never showed up on the radar.
My, my this is entertaining…you can almost smell the fear coming from the WH.
Peace
Could it be? There’s NO WAY he could stay after this.
Yeaargh!
I’m getting some of BooMan’s absinthe for this one.
We need the BooMan’s wise writings on this. I e-mailed him. Hope he’s up for it.
Must check the other papers too.
I wonder why Libby’s attorney is pointing fingers at Cheney? What’s in it for them?
In the meantime, would you care for a glass? Mmm. Green.
Shall we toast the demise of this traitorous, lying republican scum?
– plea bargaining that is what. There are several charges that can be brought against each of these guys and some are fiercer than others. Say they want to have some life left over after sentencing – they might look at some charges as being a little more quality of life enhancing than others.
Could it be, Susan, that the statement that is all over the press today about the WH being all nervous in the service and this could be part of it..the lawyers are now turning against one another…I think it is so funny!!!! If they didnt have anything to hide, whey be so unnerving? They say bush has been so grumpy lately…well, as I see it is like hwen he was angry with rove a while back…not that rove was doing the dirty work, it was that he screwed it up and do a better job of smearing..see where I am going with all of this? I really think it is so funny!!!! They have gotten so like a book, one can read them like one.
I think you’re on top of it, Brenda.
And i’m going to watch CNN at 7pm (about 3-4 minutes) because Aaron Brown will surely have the NYT story.
If Libby’s going down he wants to take Cheney with him. Maybe Libby’s lawyer has a tape or something on Libby’s conversations with Cheney. That would be good!
Read James Wolcott’s latest for insight as to why…
Cheney didn’t do anything wrong.. he was too busy strangling puppies and slowly pulling of the wings of baby flies. Don’t underestimate the power of the dark side! (you ever hear this bit on Air America?)
I just walked to the store, was just gone an hour and I return to hear Scarborough spouting the above info, quickly put on booman and of course Susan was right on top of it….lol
Things are looking better and better!!!!!!!!
OOPS! There goes another …. Oops! There goes another …. Oops! There goes another Republican Talking POINT!
Ha, ha. (Best Simpson’s bully voice.)
But you gotta warn a sista. I came “this close” to spitting red wine all over the screen. Do you know how hard that is to get out?
:<)
“Mr. Cheney was interviewed under oath by Mr. Fitzgerald last year.”
Did anyone notice this little tidbit in the article? So, what was the story a year ago? Wasn’t it that Bush and Cheney testified, but not under oath? Does it make any difference if it was under oath? Interesting!!
I’ve got a sinking feeling about this story.
Think NYT relationships and sources.
i’ve just e-mailed some people who might know.
this could be a cover story. Dick was just conducting business, and Scooter got a bit naughty with the info ….
brb
The thot plickens.
You must type at warp speed, Susan! Great job. 🙂
So, all of that crap about Cheney not knowing anything about Wilson and his trip was just that – crap, just as we all suspected.
If Libby lied, I’m sure Fitz can find some charge that will stick.
Dems meet to plan ‘indictment’ strategy: Developing…
Our Dems? Really? There must be something solid to get this craven bunch of cowering enablers to act.
That’s bullshit … just like I fear this NYT story is.
a) pass off some responsibility on Tenet / CIA
b) make it look like Cheney was merely discussing what Mr. Tenet had told him with his senior adviser, and there’s nothing illegal about that .. now Scooter was a bit naughty, but we can just slap his hand.
Cheney comes out scotfree, Scooter gets slapped … and the Wurmser angle (THE REAL story, I really feel) gets lost in the shuffle
TELL ME I AM WRONG!
SOMEONE!
AND YOU TELL ME WHY Scarborough was Johnny-on-the-spot with THREE guest commentators, including Laurence O’Donnell, Howard Fineman
It takes TIME, baby, to get those kind of guests on. Unless he already had them lined up. Must check his guest list for tonight.
Because they were just on with Oberman, except for O’Donnel…, don’t be so suspicious Susan…lol…..and did you hear what Scarborough said at the end of that bit…why it’s important to the American People….and Scar bo has been turning lately ever since the hurricane.
Damn.
Not gonna say you’re wrong, but it’s premature.
Remember, this is all outside speculation and damage control. Only Fitz and the GJ have the power atm.
The spin building is for the pre-trail media case to hopefully influence jurors and public opinion… tbey can point fingers as much as they want at each other before or during the case, but in the end, the evidence is all that matters.
They could present their defence that way for sure, but the indictment is the indictment… and a lot more can come out before and during the trial too… more people decide to talk, power changes in DC… you never know.
they’re probably trying to figure out how to avoid demanding impeachment.
“We are going to talk about the culture of corruption, and tie it back to the president,” the leadership aide said. “It’s all part of them manipulating the facts to make their case for the war.
“It gets right back to the president.”
This is the last paragraph. Worth a look after you go check out Larry Johnson’s take above this one.
Widely reported article: Parties develop spin strategies…
back to their old tricks:
Wow. Right after I posted that excerpt from Mercury News, I read this WaPo article, “Husband Is Conspicuous in Leak Case
Wilson’s Credibility Debated as Charges In Probe Considered”.
Is WaPo using the RNC talking points?
Courtesy of Gannon’s old haunt, GOP news: link
The date is July 14, 2005.
Here’s an excerpt:
Looks like that’s coming back to bite Cheney in the ass.
If you don’t have a subscription to the Mercury News, you can read the same article here.
I think you need to tie in the fact that Cheney was messing around in the CIA, probably had them do a search for Wilson’s history(JOhn Boltons requests come to mind) and came up with the info then passed it along to Libby, now does Libby have the highest clearence to get this info and even if he does he had to have known more than just her name, I would think and therefore passed info directly from Cheney to reporters, then tried to cover for Cheney, but he would have know it was top secret.
What were they doing with the info in the first place, what would have been the reason for them to have known about Wilson and his wife, they were digging to find something.
Woosh…..hope that made sense….my prediction, cheney is going to be indicted….
Please tell me the jist.
I’m busy surfing around but have it in the background. They reported on the NYT story in this diary…now doing a bit on Fitzgerald and his credentials…
Legal beagle Jeffrey Toobin is now talking about the Cheney connection..mentioning that Cheney had been questioned about this by Fitz…speculating that if Cheney lied, he might be toast too…
Toobin doesn’t think Fitz’s office leaked this…not sure who would have…
Did anyone else notice Aaron Brown tonight? They used a photo to show Libby with Cheney, and highlighted Libby. But halfway between the two was…. Harriet Myers!
I think they’re wrong. But I’m going to toss this up and read the article again thoroughly.
Yes, I agree. The Republicans have been using this as a talking point, that there has to be deliberate and knowling revelation but that is a wrong interpretation according to a long article I read. Sorry I can’t trace it right now but it will all come out in the wash.
Cheney knew she worked for CIA, Tenet told him so. I cannot believe he did not go further and mention her covert status, possibly as a warning.