If you get MSNBC, turn it on now. At the top of his show, Chris Matthews said that he just learned that — against the advice of their staffers and counsel — both Vice President Dick Cheney and his top aide Scooter Libby withheld critical documents from the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2004, as the committee was investigating pre-war intelligence.
I haven’t stopped to see if there are corroborating print stories, but would appreciate your help in finding out. At the moment, they’re airing a report about the Miers withdrawal. Matthews’ blockbuster lead surely comes after this.
Update [2005-10-27 17:17:58 by susanhu]: Thank you for the link, Maynard! From the National Journal:
Cheney, Libby Blocked Papers To Senate Intelligence Panel
By Murray Waas, special to National Journal
© National Journal Group Inc.
Thursday, Oct. 27, 2005
Vice President Cheney and his chief of staff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, overruling advice from some White House political staffers and lawyers, decided to withhold crucial documents from the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2004 when the panel was investigating the use of pre-war intelligence that erroneously concluded Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, according to Bush administration and congressional sources. …
Already at the top of Josh Marshall’s TPM. You’ll find a National Journal link there.
http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2005/1027nj1.htm
Thanks for this link, maynard. So it’s fucking executive privilege again, is it?? Gotta love this:
No shit, ya think?
Yeah, nobody wants that coming out EXCEPT THE VOTERS WHO WANTED THEIR SORRY LYING THIEVING MURDERING ASSES OUT OF OFFICE!!!!
I’m sorry for shouting…
No apologizing for shouting, now!! 😉
OT– how are the boys doing?? How are you? All hanging int here?
They are sharing the couch, and are feeling well enough to be designing a skateboard park together in Tony Hawk Underground 2 on the playstation (okay, CB the elder is doing most of that; CB the younger is feeling pretty crummy). Thanks for asking!
You betcha — been thinking about ya’ll all day. I hope a good night’s sleep is in their future’s (and yours) and that they wake up tomorrow feeling lots better!
Murray Waas’ article had me pumping my fists in the air though — these guys are being outed!! Whether they go down or not, is yet to be seen but at least the information is getting OUT there!!
especially on a sick day.
Bet I can out-skate and -grind your kids. No wait, nevermind. I think I’m still a gamer, then I get consistently waxed by my boy and his friends. Fun.
I’m going to create a new World of Warcraft character tonight…maybe a fat dwarf thief called “Cheney.” Then instead of playing the game for real, I’ll just go to the big public city areas and yell things like “We couldn’t release those documents to the Senate in an election year,” and “There is the danger that if we make the wrong choice, the U.S. will get hit again in a way that will be devastating” until the moderators kick me off.
Activism takes many forms….or something like that.
My 5-year old nephew beats the pants off of everybody at THUG2. How do they do that????
They beg me for WOW…if I could get on there and watch you ranting in the public city areas, I might have to re-think my parental stance on that…
Oooo! Let’s all go and rant in the public spaces!!
No, bad, bad, brinn, you must not get addicted to any online games before finishing dissertation, bad, bad, brinn….
I wonder if I can get my husband to design an online game just for us….hmmm, wheels turning….
I’m trying to follow all this and work at the same time. Jeesh, it’s hard to keep my head focused when my blood boils from the news. –M
This article makes it sound like maybe Libby has some sort of weird obsession with Wilson….
OOOOH! Pat Buchanan just said “contempt for congress”.
I hate being at work…
…it’s a killer for my ticker. I need my T.V.!!!!
I know Manny it really sucks this working for a living especially with all the crappola hitting the fans these days.
Susan, I did a surf around all the news sites….nothing yet!!
Thanks, honey! Maynard found the link.
It’s so funny, too, because just last night as I was forcing myself to stay away from the computer and relax, I wondered why I hadn’t about any stories from Murray Waas in the last few days. He’s been like Woodward/Bernstein on some of the CIA leak stories.
Well, now i know!
Josh Marshall found the link… I just reposted it here. 🙂 –M
Yeah, but YOU — not that Josh — gave it to us!
I’m looking forward to shouting from my cubicle sometime tomorrow – Rove and Libby indicted!
Most of the office is traveling, or doing physical inventory count, and the remaining colleagues could care less about politics, but I refuse to have my righteous indignation contained.
We will be shouting along with you.
Then I’m taking the day off to drink.
Oooh, now I have to come up with a really special happy hour cafe for tomorrow…
I already warned my office-mates, and they’ve said they’ll know it’s happened when hear me hollering and hooting!
Maybe it’s tasteless, but me and a couple of my office mates here have what I think is a great plan…
We have a recording of the infamous ‘Howard Dean Scream’ that we’re going to blast at full volume, once for each indictment.
YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Just read the article and this seems to be a pretty big deal….
Although Buchanan is on with Mathews right now and I am sure the two of them will quell my mood.
When is Tweety going to talk about this?
Susan, you haven’t been hallucinating from the nitrous oxide have you?
😉
And if Chris Matthews asks “Did he throw momma from the train?” one more time, I am going to throw something!
grrrrr.
Hell no! I did that about 30 years ago at a frat party (it was, um, not your typical fraternity). “Oh, just try this — it’s what the dentist gives people.”
The next week, I looked in Time magazine and there was an article about people dying from it. That freaked me out totally, and I never did it ever again.
I am glad you were a rabid reader even then!! Elsewise we would have you around to inform us these days!
“might not have you around..”
It would be great to find out what those docs said. In the third installment of Bonini-D’Avanzo scoop, there is a passage in which Hadley asks for a CIA nullaosta to include the alluminum tubes and yellowcake fantasies in the October 2002 Cincinatti address. Tenet refused. This is mentioned in the SSCI report.
What exactly could be worse than that? The Saddam-Al Qaeda link? Or the fact that Saddam was behind the horrifying Dosadi experiment?
nullaosta = permission?
(Thank Google for God …. or is that the other way around?)
Office of Special Plans notwithstanding, methinks these guys are getting the full consequence of screwing with the CIA. My own personal judgement is still out on Tenet, vis a vis, the extent of his lapdog-ed-ness, but he certainly does not comprise the whole of the CIA — you just know there were al LOT of people pissed off beyond belief at these asswipes even BEFORE the Valerie Wilson outing…..
We shall see…
delicate health.
Wait a minute, his delicate health never stopped him from starting an unjust pre-emptive war which killed thousands.
Carry on, you are doing a fine job.
My wife and I are reading it aloud. It’s exactly what the title says. Franken is a riot.
I think he set himself a goal of saying “then Cheney’s heart explodes” at least once per page.
I have to confess I have never wished ill on any person until Cheney. May the gods forgive me.
It’s virtually cruel and unusual punishment for me that all this news and impending indictments and Cheney getting recognized for witholding doucuments etc., that I am still without power here in South Florida. I just charged up the laptop at one of my doctor’s offices today, (the only one with power at his office), so I’m going to nurse the battery over the next couple of days.
I’ll be listening to the radio in the car tomorrow in case Fitz announces indictments or Cheney flees the country.
Signing off for now.
by having a week’s worth of electricity stored away yet?
I hope it is back on soon for you!! Are you well other than that?
Jeb hasn’t called me yet, but if he does he’ll get an earful, and not about the hurricane either, but about his plans to gut social services for the poor and working poor, his catastrophic education “reforms”, and his dangerous imbecile brother.
As for me, all is well. I’m losing a few pounds by walking more, I managed to go through about 10 boxes of stuff I hadn’t unpacked since my surprise recovery and ultimate discharge from the hospital last year, and mercifully the weather is not blazingly hot.
Also I found another friend who has powewr at the hotel where heworks and I’ll be goingto get some ice tomorrow and also to get my laptop charged up again.
Thanks for asking after my well being.
I’m rooting for Fitzgerald to indict the lot of them.
You betcha and I’m glad to hear it!
You know that Jeb wouldn’t dare call you in any case! Glad to hear that it isn’t brutally hot and that you have a place to go for ice and laptop recharging!
You take good care and let us know when the lights come on!
Well, well, well…
That’s interesting. Especially after la Repubblica’s revelations this week that Hadley had a direct hand on the intel about the forged Niger documents – implicating the WH as having had that info independent of the CIA and other intel agencies.
Looks like Libby is toast no matter how you cook him and I hope Cheney gets one huge kick in the butt right along with him.