A 17 year old girls wins a successful appeal to Florida’s abortion notification law. So now they will toughen it, says a Senator. See, we can’t let those judges “misunderstand” our intent, says the Senator…we need to make laws tougher so that judges won’t “misinterpret.”
To the credit of a local newspaper, they see problems with the law. AND, their final recommendation in today’s editorial is to do away with the law. Here is a summing up of the issue in the local paper the past week.
In doing so, it overturned the decision of a Polk circuit judge, who had denied the girl a waiver to a new law requiring a minor to notify her parents before having an abortion.
It was unclear Thursday whether this is the first time that any Florida appeals court has reversed a lower judge’s denial of a waiver.
But the 2nd District Court of Appeal, based in Lakeland, noted this was the first time that it ever has been called upon to “sort out and apply a new and uninterpreted” parental notification statute. The Florida Legislature approved it in the spring, and it became effective June 30.
“There is scant Florida case law interpreting or applying it,” wrote Judge Stevan T. Northcutt for the majority in the court’s lengthy opinion. The new Florida law requires a physician to notify the parents or guardians of girls younger than 18 before performing an abortion. But if the girl does not want her parents or guardians notified, she can request a waiver from a judge.
And so the local newspaper editorializes about this today pretty fairly.
Notification Law Has Problems
In an expedited hearing (as provided by law) before Circuit Judge Ellen Masters, the girl, represented by a court-appointed attorney and two from the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation of Florida, sought a judicial waiver of the notification requirement. She testified that she had graduated from high school with high grades and was enrolled in a trade school. She had consulted with her boyfriend, whom she intended to marry within a year, and they agreed on an abortion. She said she was in no position to raise a child at this point in her life.”
…….”The appellate panel emphasized it wasn’t criticizing Masters’ ruling, noting she had only 48 hours to hear evidence, research the law and make her decision. The appellate court had only 10 days to do its job. The problem is that there is no legal precedent for the notification law in this state. Who should decide “maturity,” and what are the criteria? The same questions arise for the best interest of the girl. The plaintiff in this case was nearly an adult under the law. What about a 16-year-old? Or a 13-year-old?”
…….”If this law is allowed to stand by the federal courts — a very big “if” — the Legislature needs to make provision for some of the shortcomings highlighted by this case. Better yet, it ought to consider repealing this law altogether.”
BUT here comes the Republican party to the rescue, they know just how to handle it. Just change the law so there is no “out” for the judges to use…..very simple. That is how we do things here in Florida. We just can’t have those judges “misunderstand”.
Abortion Ruling Upsets Lawmaker
Notification law should be rewritten, state Rep. Dennis Ross says.
“If a minor attempts to receive an exemption, and the judge hearing the case denies it, that should be it,” state Rep. Dennis Ross, a Republican, said Friday.
“I feel we will have to revisit the law as a legislature and set standards by which an appellate court can overturn a judge’s decision in such cases.”
……””I was enraged because their (the District Court of Appeals judges’) action was contrary to the intent of the law,” said Ross.
“We put the safety valve in that law that was supposed to be decided by the judge hearing the case, not for the appellate court,” he said, adding that he expects lawmakers to revisit the issue in the 2006 Legislature.”
……“Judges can grant a waiver based on a girl’s level of maturity or because she has been a victim of abuse by her parents or if telling the parents is not in the girl’s best interest.
The Legislature, which had tried several times to pass a law requiring that parents must be notified before a minor daughter is allowed to have an abortion, added a judicial relief clause to make it constitutional.
Ross said such judicial relief was intended only for difficult circumstances.
AND guess who gets to determine “difficult circumstances”, and guess what they will do next? They will try to take out the “safety valve” that is there. That’s the way we do things in Florida.
Shorter FL legislature: When we put that safety valve in the law, we didn’t mean for girls to be allowed to use it.
Jerks.
Thanks for keeping us updated, floridagal.
That is exactly how they meant it. Now let’s get rid of that safety valve, fellers.
What’s the age of consent in Florida? Does anyone else find it odd that lawmakers can deem young women mature enough to consent to sex or to marriage but not mature enough to obtain an abortion? It’s as if they refuse to recognise that these activities and unwanted pregnancies are causally connected.
What I don’t understand about these laws is:
If a young woman is mature enough – she can have an abortion.
And if she’s not mature enough – she can have a baby?!
So, Ross is “enraged”? More false outrage designed to get votes on the backs of young women. Another Republican victimized by our system of checks and balances. The young lady should have just taken her scarlet letter awarded by the circuit judge and gone home.
Floridagal — is this state senator’s seat very safe? What would it take to boot his ass? This won’t end until it becomes politically unpopular to harrass women.
This won’t end until it becomes politically unpopular to harrass women.
The crux of the deal, all that will be upcoming thru 06 and 08 and beyond.
Everytime some pol embraces the “moderate middle” (as Warner of VA likes to put it) we and minorities and gays (and children too!, lets not forget NCLB, pre 9/11 Democrats just being nice to BushBaby) get sidelined, but still used for election purposes… Used up.
I hear that tape of Schumer’s voice about Casey and abortion over and over.
He is considered a moderate, actually. That should tell you something. They have thought this way so long it does not occur to them what they are doing.
I have talked to him, he is very sensible…this surprised me.
But then this is Florida, you know.
I wonder if he felt the same way about the appeals process five years ago this month. Or is access to that legal safeguard only meant for well-heeled Republicans?
I’ve seen a 16 y/o African-American kid appeal the denial of a judicial bypass all the way to the Texas Supreme Court — that bastion of equal protection stocked with the likes of John Cornyn, Priscilla Owen, Alberto Gonzales and Nathan Hecht, the on-again, off-again beloved of Harriet Miers — and win on the merits of her case.
When she walked into that courtroom in Austin, she carried with her more courage, integrity and just plain human decency than reptiles like Dennis Ross could imagine exists. When will we defang these vipers?
Thanks for the heads-up Floridagirl. We’ll be sure and spread the word.
I hope you and your husband are doing fine too! Take care!
Getting a little stronger now. Been rough, though.
So a murderer or robber or rapist or child molester can appeal up through the system, but a pregnant girl cannot.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Well said.
Although… I think for their side to get the point, it’d have to be couched in terms of someone like Delay having the ability to appeal.
Great point, however.
They don’t think in terms of “the right to appeal the decision” — the only criterion in play is “the decision appeals to the right.”
Legal proceedings may continue until that point is reached, and no further.
ANY time a 17-year-old girl is pregnant, it’s a difficult circumstance.
Any questions?
I gave reasons for his hypocrisy below. I would add that this girl was very mature about how she handled this situation. She talked this situation over with people she trusted, and made an intelligent decision. That is how the system ought to work.
Responsible person that knows what she wants to do.
Why do these men think that they should have a say in it, especially since she went to all that trouble to get an exemption? It’s as though they want all teenagers to be forced to have children if they get pregnant, even though that can stunt their growth and cause long term problems.
I’m thinking that they know they themselves are not good parents and that their own children woouldn’t tell them, so they want to make them tell them instead of putting in the work of getting close enough to their kids so their kids will feel like they can talk to them.
When a person is an authoritarian type of parent, that possibly abuses their children with strong physical punishment, I would imagine they would be aware that their kids will be afraid to talk to them about something that they have made such a big deal out of. It makes sense, if they think about it at all.
And that is why they have such a fear of letting these teenagers make their own decisions without letting parents know. The ones that want the laws know their kids won’t tell them, for fear of punishment.
During the Lege session last spring, Rep. Phil King pushed very hard for the “upgrade” of parental notification to parental consent, with the intention of adding a parental veto that could override a judge’s ruling.
Over and over, I heard him lead into his arguments with, “If it was my daughter … ” or “I wouldn’t want my daughter to be able to …”
He’s a rigid, bible-thumping SOB, and knows — deep down, in what passes for his heart — that any daughter of his would tell literally anybody before she said a sideways word to daddy.
Yes, we all know the type well, unfortunately. I feel so sorry for their children.
If he were really sincere about that, I suggest he speak out against the Republicans who have taken this country into a war in which we had no business fighting. And I suggest he speak out against the disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of Black voters in his state.
The sanctity of human life ethic applies to people outside the womb, and it is a fact of life we value the life of the woman more than we do the fetus. I see most right-wingers don’t support life imprisonment for women who have an abortion.
This ethic, as I note above, means that we treat each human life as equal, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or anything else you can think of.