Crooks & Liars has the video, also shown on CNN.
Dick Cheney was speaking at the University of Tenn. for the groundbreaking of the Howard Baker Center, when people started heckling. I couldn’t hear what they were saying, but it didn’t stop the VP.
Update [2005-11-15 13:22:6 by susanhu]: I called the city editor of the Knoxville News Sentinel who directed me to this report (sub. only) just up on their site:
Anti-war protestors twice tried to disrupt Vice President Dick Cheney during a speech today honoring Tennessee statesman Howard H. Baker Jr. at the University of Tennessee. …
At one point during Cheney’s remarks, two women shouted, “War, what is it good for?”
Another pair of protesters answered from different part of the arena. Police hustled both groups outside.
A few moments later, three protesters raised a green and white sign demanding “Peace Now.”
“Stop the war!” they shouted.
They, too, were escorted outside. Police took the names of the protesters but did not arrest them. …About 50 protesters, most of them appearing to be college age, demonstrated outside the arena. Several carried signs, including one that read “Honor Baker, Impeach Cheney.”
I also called our Brenda Stewart who told me that Knoxville is in a “very red county.” Brenda sent me links to TV station coverage — WBIR TV: “About a half-dozen peace protesters shouted, ‘War, what is it good for?’ They unfurled a banner reading ‘Peace Now’.” … OPEN THREAD!
I hope he got it in the best “Waldorf and Statler” Muppet Show tradition…
If I got within a quarter mile of Dick Cheney, I hope I could manage to restrain myself to heckling.
Me too! I’m afraid I’d become crazed with anger and — because I’m not keen on being arrested — rush to the front of the audience and yell him down.
it would say “poor impulse control” on my forehead (with apologies to Neal Stephenson’s Snow Crash).
camera nearby to catch it all.
I just listened to the video at C&L but my speakers at work suck. Can anyone tell me what they were yelling?
You two better quit talking like that ya know? You will end up on the no fly list or the FBI knocking on your door…lol!
Leezy, of course I meant that I’d have a hard time not showering the Vice President with candy and flowers.
Yeah, “showering,” that’s it.
ROTFLMAO!!!
Here’s what I heard yelled in the background:
War! (War!) What is it good for? Nothing!
(Repeated twice)
[untelligible] are starving in the Sudan!
War!
(It continued for a while, but the CNN reporter cut in and talked over the rest.)
Now see, I would not have been that kind if I had the opportunity to heckle Darth. I would yell something like: You are a f’ing liar Cheney. YOU are the traitor to this country. YOU have killed our troops and Iraqis for greed. YOU should be in Gitmo. YOU can go CHENEY yourself Dick! Ah, you get the drift!
That’s what I would be yelling. I saw it. To me, the speech wasn’t disrupted but I did see Darth give a tiny jump and then keep on with that gritty grin on his face.
Man, if the revolution came today, I wish I could personally lead a delegation of black women to beat the living sh*t out of him.
John Amato at Crooks & Liars couldn’t make out what they were saying either … and I couldn’t when I listened to it on CNN.
We’re going to have to hope that reporters or students at the Univ of Tennessee will tell us.
I know what… I’m going to call the student newspaper there!
I’ll let you know!
Kewl! You are something else! Can’t wait to hear what they were yelling. I did hear the word war(I think).
The student paper’s editor was NOT helpful … she said I could read their story in a couple days on their site. She reluctantly took my name and phone number when I asked if the reporter could call me. I doubt she’ll give him the message.
So I called the city newspaper and got the above story from the city editor.
Amazing the way the girl on the phone from the school paper treated you. Bet she won’t be around too long. Thanks for all you do woman.
Do you think just maybe she’s a Bushite?! 🙂
I offered to link her paper, etc…. as I did the city editor.
AND (!) John at Crooks and Liars linked our report from the Knoxville newspaper! (He’s so cool that way.)
Bushite for sure. John links over here alot. Your story from yesterday is up there now. You must have a really good relationship with him doll.
We try to help each other. he’s very good about promoting other people’s blogs … which is one reason he’s so popular (and it’s a real strategy for building readership) … but i think he mostly does it because he likes to help other people.
connection, I kept thinking (hoping?) they were chanting “What did you know and when did you know it?”
Good for the hecklers! I am understanding that my state is not so red as bush would like one to think. I get the feeeeeeeling that we are sick and tired of thsi whole mess coming from his WH!! What do ya think??? I say YEA!!!!
PS: and tis is at the most conservitive end of the state too…..all red…
two of my four coworkers are from Tennessee, recently, and they’re the most progressive folks you could meet.
On the other hand, they didn’t stay there… Hmmm.
That’s awesome to see vocal resistance to Darth Cheney in such an unlikely spot. If he’s getting hassled there, nowhere is safe. I was mostly surprised to hear he’d been let out of his cage for the day.
and says that TN is kind of PURPLE
well, all I can say to that is, it depends on where you are at the time. Memphis, OTOH is blue. I live in a red county. does this make it possible that I am not really independent or progressive? I know democrats here in this county, but they are not that active in our cause either. I was informed that this is republican turf, do not make waves…so there you ahve the rest of the story….as the story goes.
What’s really amazing is that to get in you had to show up TWO HOURS before the VP was scheduled to speak, for security reasons.
I toyed with the idea of going, but I’m not waiting two hours to see Dick Cheney, LOL.
He better enjoy the security while he has it – when I went to see Gore last year at UT (as part of their “environmental semester” program) there was no obviously visible security, although I presume there must have been a few scattered in the SRO crowd that came to hear his speech on climate change.
But President Gore doesn’t have to worry about being arrested for international crimes against humanity. Cheney, on the other hand, will spend the rest of his miserable days like Henry the K, scuttling out through the service entrance of grand hotels in order to avoid the process servers in the lobby.
Global warming splits the Repugs:
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/33402/story.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/11/opinion/11fri3.html
http://www.boomantribune.com/?op=displaystory;sid=2005/11/14/165819/59
I haven’t clicked your links yet. Is this about the Hagel hearing yesterday with the woman from the Pew Center?
I caught the last three minutes of it last night on CSpan and was sick I missed it. it was also sad to note that most of the Senate committee seats were EMPTY, as was the audience section.
No, these refer to the states taking the lead in auto emissions in the vacuum of federal action.
that I now believe in Intelligent Design.
Our faces are intelligently designed to guard our eyes, as I found out the painful way yesterday.
I was out feeding the birds, most of whom lived in a large thicket of a huge hedge at the back of my back yard. As I was talking to the birds (well, I do), I heard a cat meowing mournfully. I kept talking to the cat, which continued to meow. I went back inside and brought out a can of smelly wet cat food and some dry food — trying to coax the cat out. No luck. Because the brush is so thick, I couldn’t see the cat, and began to wonder if it had gotten its collar caught on a twig or branch.
Holding two branches down, I bent forward to peer inside the thicket. All of a sudden, a branch broke, and down I went … hitting a pruned sharp branch on my way down. It gouged my cheek pretty badly…. today, I look like I got whacked in the ring by Mike Tyson.
But it didn’t dawn on me until this morning that, had my cheekbone not “intervened,” that sharp stick would have poked my eye out!
(it was also disconcerting to find out, for the first time, that I couldn’t get myself up from the ground because of my back, knees and hips. I called out to my neighbor but he doesn’t hear well. So i crawled on my hands and knees through the wet grass and rocks to my car, and hoisted myself up. Shit … if I have to get one of those dumb alarm things to wear around my neck, that’ll be depressing!)
I’m fine. My cheek is swollen and has a big wound. But I’m just so lucky it didn’t pierce my eye….
Lesson: There’s nothin’ quite like those Swiss German high cheekbones! Thanks, grandmother and mother!
Jeez Susan…hope you are ok and heal rapidly. I have the Swede/Dane high cheekbones too. Lifesavers aren’t they?
If I go to the grocery store, everyone’s going to stare — it’s that purple and red — and wonder who my boyfriend is! 🙂
Thanks for your concern.
This is OT, but … when I volunteered at that elementary school, it was instantly clear which children had had good nutrition in utero and after birth, and which had not. The kids who’d had poor nutrition had very poor facial bone structure and poor teeth. It’s just tragic that our country doesn’t prioritize nutrition before and after birth.
the pain, and have it looked at. Any injury to your face or head should be looked at.
And not just by your fellow grocery shoppers who will look meaningfully at each other when you tell them you fell on a pruned stick.
On the positive side, if your neighbors are sympathetic (and morbidly curious) enough, maybe they will volunteer to accompany you on your woodland activities, which would be a good thing if you have trouble getting up from a fall.
I know it is not easy. Take it from an old man who, in the current situation, deeply regrets that he is unlikely to storm anything but the Epsom Salts sale at Rite-Aid.
A covering of beautiful ebony-black skin is pretty handy in the sun, not to mention forward-looking as we degrade the ozone.
is to explain the evolutionary advantage of white skin. I understand that it has to do with metabolizing a necessary component of Vitamin D at higher latitudes, where sunlight is weaker. That is why people like Danes, the Swiss and Norwegian types like me have it.
Unfortunately, at this time of year, sun is not a major concern 🙂
… not to mention forward-looking as we degrade the ozone.
Oh, that’s good!
Of course, last summer I actually started peeling! I honestly didn’t think that was possible. And I’m thinking, WTF? I wasn’t even outside long! Of course, I didn’t wear sunscreen, either, thinking that my coffee-color skin didn’t need the help.
So not only can we not breathe but now I can friggin’ peel, too, if I’m not careful. Who said this administration never gave anything back to you if you’re not rich?
/snark.
black people from getting sunburn, heat stroke, or skin cancer.
We get all three, too.
I’m glad you’re okay. How dispiriting to have to crawl to your car in order to pull yourself up. You’re making light of it now but maybe you should get one of those Help Me buttons. Old age really sucks!
Thanks!
Btw, I went out several more times to call to the cat, but it finally stopped meowing, and I noticed that the wet food I’d dropped when I fell was mostly eaten. So I’m hoping the kitty got out okay.
I also went over to the neighbors on the other side of the hedge…. they were wonderful, and helped me look too. I’ve only gotten to know them a little bit. The woman is from Finland and proudly told me, in her American accent, that she didn’t speak a word of English when she came here. And she told me how she and her husband rescue wounded raccoons 🙂 Ahhhh … that does it … I love those people now! 🙂
Anyone who rescues wounded racoons is ok in my book.
My neighbor recently discovered a litter of baby racoons were living in her chimney. She has a low shed that makes access to the roof easy, and a grate at the top of the chimney that apparently made a great nest.
The critters were driving her crazy. It’s getting cold, she couldn’t start a fire for fear of barbecuing them, and they made all sorts of fascinating and maddening noises day and night.
Eventually she drove them off. (They retreated to her shed, where my son and I were able to spend several lovely afternoons observing them and trying to come up with novel variations on the sentence “They are sooooo cute.”)
How did she do it? She put a loud boombox in the fireplace and cranked it up. But it didn’t work immediately. She had to try several stations, and eventually discovered the big “Christian Talk” AM radio superstation from Wyoming was by far the most repellent to racoons. Smart animals.
That’s a fabulous story! Wow … I’ll share it on the raccoon Yahoo list that I’m on.
Aren’t they endlessly fun to watch?! I have the same problem tryin to find something to say besides, “Oh, they’re so cute.” They also make me laugh a lot.
That raccoon Yahoo list is the most fun list I’ve ever been on — lots of great stories like yours, and people who are so caring and loving to animals, and not just raccoons. There’s one woman who treats injured Asian birds, and she sends us photos of these exotic creatures that she rehabs and then releases.
It’s my favorite getaway from politics. And they helped to teach me a lot since I was feeding the raccoons the wrong things (like cat food and, ahem, chocolate chips). I now feed them dog food mostly — we got a 40 lb. bag from Costco that was very inexpensive. And I get them grapes if they’re on sale…. oh, do they love grapes. Then there are the sandwiches.
BooMan called me the other night and asked, ‘What are you doing?” I said, “I’m making sandwiches for the raccoons.” He hesitated for a moment — probably thinking, oh, that Susan is nuts — and then asked what kind of sandwich. “Peanut butter and jelly,” I said.
There’s really a Yahoo! group about racoons? That gives me hope for humanity. I’ll have to check it out.
Racoon babies are the sweetest little things…like kittens with attitude. I loved watching them, but I loved watching my son watch them even more. He has the biggest heart–I don’t know how it fits in that little body. It doesn’t even bother me that these same little racoons are probably the ones who spread my garbage all over the alley last week. Instead, I’ll worry if that stops.
You’re one of the good ones, Susan. I hope you and your cheek recover soon!
JOIN HERE!
It’d be a gas to see you on the list. There’s a lot of e-mail some days but, if it’s too much for me to read, I copy and paste it into my Raccoon e-mail folder to read later.
I hate missing a single post because I never know when I’ll open an e-mail from someone on that list who’s telling the most incredible story.
Matzo and Sheila are two of the knowledgeable rehabbers on that list, and they’re VERY nice about answering questions.
Ouch! Man, did I grimmace when I read the part about the pruned stick… those things get hard as nails. What a horrible experience. Make sure you care for that wound.
If you have a cellphone, carry it with you even in the yard. If not, maybe you could get one of those pay as you go phones.
Boy, that was a freaky thing to happen. I’m sending some healing energy your way (don’t laugh… some guy in yoga class once healed my foot that way) Unless, of course, that “cat” was really a demon sent by the evil one himself (yes, Darth Cheney)… then you’ll probably need an exorcist. Out of my league. You take care!!!!!
(((((Susan)))))
THANKS for the energy … I know it’s knid of mystical, but I do believe that there are such powers and that they’re very beneficial. It’s beyond current rational thought and knowledge, and I accept that but know in my being that these are ways to heal each other.
The “incident” may be my punishment for doing something just awful the other day.
We have a problem sometimes on the front page in making sure that the stories in the middle column go long enough to match the length of the right-column blogroll and the left-column ads.
So, I’ll go into stories towards the bottom of the page, and put more of their content above the fold. It’s an easy solution.
But, the other day, I accidentally hit the DELETE button on one of Steven D’s first stories as a front-pager. I quickly hit SAVE too, and it looked like it had saved. But, later when I went looking for the story, it was gone. Finito. I wrote to Steven and apologized — he was VERY nice about it. And, he found a copy of it cached at Google. He’s going to post it again later today, hopefully. It was a TERRIFIC story that he’d clearly spent a lot of time on, and it was about the media, and we need his story as a reference. Geeeeeeezzzzzzz.
I’m now begging BooMan to make the DELETE function for stories into a two-step process, whereby you have to confirm that you want to delete the story. Please, Andy, our programmer. Do that! For the next time Susan’s mouse arrow hits the wrong button.
Steven is a nice guy, and a great pick for the FP… he’d never be angry about it even if he didn’t find a cached copy. I’m glad he did, though, and am looking forward to reading his piece.
I think that a 2 step delete process would be great. Don’t feel bad about it, stuff like that happens to all of us now and then. But, seriously, feel better.
I have saved diaries to my MSWord files. I would think that would be a great way for any of us to be sure to have a back-up diary.
And then doesn’t BT eventually lock up the diaries in some sort of limbo, “show only”, or whatever it says, where you can no longer use the “edit” link to see your original.
I like to have access to what I’ve done in case I need parts of it again.
What’s good for the NOLA physician is good for me: I think everyone who gets within earshot of Mr. Cheney should remind him of that moment…
Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney, go fuck yourself.
(and be sure not to leave out the “Mr.”, no, the “Mr.” is absolutely essential)….
With all due respect, Mr. Cheney, with all due respect: Go fuck yourself.
$492 billion defense bill just passed on a unanimous 98 – 0 vote.
Warner Amendment passed 79 – 19
Thanks for the update Susan. You Rock!
This strikes me as being well coordinated. I envision a determined act of heckling by dozens of people. Each one yells on their cue and then just walks out before they can even be “escorted.” Imagine the cat calls coming from all over an auditorium; security would be running back and forth, catching no one. Wouldn’t it be cool if there were enough people to sing the whole “War, what is it good for” song from beginning to end! Or endless choruses of “Mr. Cheney, go fuck yourself!” bouncing from one side to the other. That would be brilliant!
I am damn proud of those young, fine Americans!
Damn, Susan, after reading your additional news from the News-Sentinel it would have been worth waiting two hours in a security line to have been there after all, not to mention taking a day off work…
“War-What is it good for?”
“Nothing!”
“What about the starving in Sudan?”
djangone
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“I distinctly heard Cheney ask if there were hecklers in the room. One of the hecklers yelled back, “No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.”
Cheney would interpret the heckling that way, huh?”
Yes 😀
Captain Awesome
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Reward Good Behavior –
E Mail the Knoxville Chief of Police and commend their restraint and respect for what’s left of our 1st Amendment rights !
sowen@cityofknoxville.org
i know that’s how it’s supposed to be but this is the south and it was dick cheney – those brave souls could’ve been disappeared
claire booth lucid
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I was there — and the people stayed away in DROVES!! They expected around 3,000 to show up to hear Cheney and there were barely 500 people there. Students on one side of the arena shouted: “War! What is it good for?” and on the other side they responded: “DICK!!” (That’s what they won’t report in the family newspaper.)
Frist was supposed to show up too but didn’t.
about 75 or so protesters yelled outside the arena while Cheney spoke — you could hear them! No free speech zone half a mile away — they were right there! I joined them after the speech and we marched across campus. Haven’t done that since MY undergraduate years!!
MzNicky
Hope you had fun. And it’s good to know that there are a few shreds of the 1st Amendment left.
Thanks for being there and giving us the scoop.
I’m going to be in Kul-ee-fawn-ya on November 29th, otherwise I’d be preparing a similar reception for the Chimperor when he visits Denver to “help” Marilyn Musgrave’s campaign.
you were just posting others’ comments. You rock either way.
Good for them. It would be a shame if Crash Cart got heckled only once during his second Presidential term.
Postscript of which I think most people may be unaware: Right after Dr. Marble heckled Cheney in Gulfport last September, he walked back… well, where his home used to be and soon was surrounded and handcuffed by goon sporting automatic rifles.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the brownshirts who follow Cheney did the same thing to those kids.
Whatever happened to the first amendment? Did someone cross it out and replace with Garth Brooks lyrics or something?
Taken from the daily beacon online. college campus news
Cheney’s speech most likely will polarize, not educate, attendees
Letter to –
Thursday, November 10, 2005 issue
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Dear Editor,
Andrew Acker does not realize that Cheney’s visit will not enlighten students, but most likely polarize them more.
Mr. Cheney is coming here this Tuesday for a groundbreaking ceremony and then giving a speech. Mr. Acker tried to show the importance of Cheney’s visit by comparing his visit to recent speakers who have spoken at UT.
First and foremost, the Issues Committee brought Al Sharpton, and the College of Law brought Utah senator Orrin Hatch. Neither was brought by the administration.
The Issues Committee brings a wide variety of speakers to expose students to multiple views. At many Issues events, speakers answer questions supplied by the attendees. Anyone is allowed to get involved in the political discourse.
I may be putting my neck out there, but I am guessing that Mr. Cheney will not be answering any questions.
If he was actually coming here to hold an open debate, I would welcome his visit. It should be very evident that this visit is not meant to enlighten students or talk about current events.
Brian Stevens
Senior in psychology
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There was a vigil in Howell MI, when Cindy Sheehan was at Camp Casey. (I live in a nearby town.) Now, Howell was considered to be as red as Knoxville. If this can happen in Knoxville and Howell, just imagine what is going on in all of the blue areas that isn’t being reported!!! (Escpecially in the blue areas that could be just enough to turn a purple state blue….)
Let’s hope! And congrats on the activism in Howell.
Best thing is that there are others that are just as fed up w/all of the shit going on today as I am!
Bad news is that there are too many who have just plain given up!!!
Damn!
HEY MY NAME IS KELLY AND I WAS ONE OF THE ORGANIZERS/PARTICIPANTS FOR THE PROTEST ACTION AGAINST CHENEY IN KNOXVILLE.
I am so excited that people are talking about this and that we had so much media coverage–we didn’t expect much at all. We really appreciate all of your support and I’m so excited I found this online. If any of you have any comments or questions or anything PLEASE email psa@utk.edu–we would LOVE, absolutely LOVE to hear from you. It was organized by Progressive Student Alliance at UT. THANKS PEOPLE. FUCK CHENEY.
Kelly
University of Tennessee
web.utk.edu/~psa
I am very interested in this
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It is my dream to be at one of these occasions and heckle the jerk by saying something insightful, pithy and profound that actually made him pay attention. Well, there’s always the tooth fairy, I guess . . .