Bob Woodward, or at least Robert Redford playing Bob Woodward, is to me, the archetype of an investigative journalist. Give me the facts, I’ll get my story no matter what, junkyard dog tough, the public has a right to know, investigative journalist.
Judging from his disclosure last night that he was the first person to learn of Valerie Plame’s identity as a CIA analyst, I need to start looking for a new hero.
On Monday, November 14, I testified under oath in a sworn deposition to Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald for more than two hours about small portions of interviews I conducted with three current or former Bush administration officials that relate to the investigation of the public disclosure of the identity of undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame.
The interviews were mostly confidential background interviews for my 2004 book “Plan of Attack” about the leadup to the Iraq war, ongoing reporting for The Washington Post and research for a book on Bush’s second term to be published in 2006. The testimony was given under an agreement with Fitzgerald that he would only ask about specific matters directly relating to his investigation.
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was first contacted by Fitzgerald’s office on Nov. 3 after one of these officials went to Fitzgerald to discuss an interview with me in mid-June 2003 during which the person told me Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA on weapons of mass destruction as a WMD analyst.
I have not been released to disclose the source’s name publicly.
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I also testified that I had a conversation with a third person on June 23, 2003. The person was I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, and we talked on the phone. I told him I was sending to him an 18-page list of questions I wanted to ask Vice President Cheney. On page 5 of that list there was a question about “yellowcake” and the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate regarding Iraq’s weapons programs. I testified that I believed I had both the 18-page question list and the question list from the June 20 interview with the phrase “Joe Wilson’s wife” on my desk during this discussion. I testified that I have no recollection that Wilson or his wife was discussed, and I have no notes of the conversation.
Though neither Wilson nor Wilson’s wife’s name had surfaced publicly at this point, Pincus had published a story the day before, Sunday, June 22, about the Iraq intelligence before the war. I testified that I had read the story, which referred to the CIA mission by “a former senior American diplomat to visit Niger.” Although his name was not used in the story, I knew that referred to Wilson.
I testified that on June 27, 2003, I met with Libby at 5:10 p.m. in his office adjacent to the White House. I took the 18-page list of questions with the Page-5 reference to “yellowcake” to this interview and I believe I also had the other question list from June 20, which had the “Joe Wilson’s wife” reference.
I have four pages of typed notes from this interview, and I testified that there is no reference in them to Wilson or his wife. A portion of the typed notes shows that Libby discussed the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq’s alleged weapons of mass destruction, mentioned “yellowcake” and said there was an “effort by the Iraqis to get it from Africa. It goes back to February ’02.” This was the time of Wilson’s trip to Niger.
When asked by Fitzgerald if it was possible I told Libby I knew Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA and was involved in his assignment, I testified that it was possible I asked a question about Wilson or his wife, but that I had no recollection of doing so. My notes do not include all the questions I asked, but I testified that if Libby had said anything on the subject, I would have recorded it in my notes.
He knew something about this story for two years, and he never told us a whiff. But he kept going on Larry King and opining about how this scandal had not a hint of “Watergate.” I’m comforted. The archetype, who sells out for insider book deals and then submits questions in writing before asking the tough questions of our highest, and most corrupt officials. Way to go Bob. My faith in the Fourth Estate is restored.
Plus, it looks like he may still be carrying water for the administration officials on this matter. He says he told the Washington Post’s Pincus about Plame before Pincus wrote the Post’s article on the matter.
I testified that after the mid-June 2003 interview, I told Walter Pincus, a reporter at The Post, without naming my source, that I understood Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA as a WMD analyst. Pincus does not recall that I passed this information on.
Pincus, in the article by the Post explaining Woodward’s follies says, “No way that happened.”
Woodward’s statement said he testified: “I told Walter Pincus, a reporter at The Post, without naming my source, that I understood Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA as a WMD analyst.”
Pincus said he does not recall Woodward telling him that. In an interview, Pincus said he cannot imagine he would have forgotten such a conversation around the same time he was writing about Wilson.
“Are you kidding?” Pincus said. “I certainly would have remembered that.”
Pincus said Woodward may be confused about the timing and the exact nature of the conversation. He said he remembers Woodward making a vague mention to him in October 2003. That month, Pincus had written a story explaining how an administration source had contacted him about Wilson. He recalled Woodward telling him that Pincus was not the only person who had been contacted.
Pincus and fellow Post reporter Glenn Kessler have been questioned in the investigation.
So, do the Rove-Bush-Cheney cabal have another evil minion? A lackey purchased with bi-annual fluff books that tout the party line? Maybe so. And maybe Woodward’s addition to this investigation will ultimately doom the truth to burial so deep that the American people will never know what happened. But at least justice, in the form of Patrick Fitzgerald, appears to be hard at work. Still trying to bring this rat’s nest to public scrutiny.
Guess my new heroes can’t be journalist anymore. They have to be prosecutors. A sign of the times, I guess. Or a sign of Post.
Great diary BJoe… I wondered what was going on when Woodward was on Larry King before Fitzgerald’s press conference. I was really astounded by his support of the Bush Admin, and his upset at the other panelists. His behaviour made him stand apart from the others. Now, the story comes out and I find it all makes sense. What a bastard. And my cynicism reaches new heights.
PS. Your other diary Appreciating Patrick Fitzgerald reads well along w/ this one. It’s refreshing to see public servants who can’t be bought or blackmailed over their indiscretions. But then, it’s probably not good to place total faith – lessons learned and all that…
Thanks O. Yeah. It was pretty obvious that he was a lackey, even then, wasn’t it.
He’s been sounding like a toady ever since bush was selected in 2000..and all his comments on Treasongate have been puerile..this latest revelation just makes him sound even more disgusting and suspect.
Hard to let go of the image of him from ‘All the Presidents Men’ and as others have said to see his integrity and honest reporting become so lobotomized. Remember he offered to go to jail for Judy Miller also. How can someone do such a 360 in their thinking I wonder?
Maybe he wanted to go to jail to purge the guilt he must feel for selling out so badly.
Reason: He was a Repub, always was, from a family with Repub contacts. His father was a judge.
He wanted a Rolodex of contacts. He didn’t want to run the risk of being adversarial.
It’s a damn shame. A damn shame. No wonder Bernstein has little to do with the guy much.
Woodward’s addition to this investigation will ultimately doom the truth to burial so deep that the American people will never know what happened.
It looks the Democratic Leadership will actually have to DO SOMETHING inorder to win in 2006… not just sit around waiting for this adminstration to implode…
IMPEACHMENT…anyone???
I’m all for that Parker. Wish I had a vote. And following the impeachment, I would be the first guy at the docks to wave bon voyage to BushCo on their way to the arraignments at the Hague.
only if you beat me there and I plan on camping out 😉
hey, we could make it like a mini-woodstock and get bands to play as we all wait in line with our wristbands to deliver the swift kick in the ass as they board… all randomly generated of course, wouldn’t want any riots if we run out of wristbands… how many do you figure we’ll need? 50million? 100? hmmm… maybe we could have them land in baghdad for a stop over and let the Iraqi’s experience “our” freedom too?
Wristbands. I think you’d be safe with 100 million. Not everyone who would like to be there would be free that weekend.
Baghdad tour stop. Fuck yes. Maybe we should let the Iraqi courts (mobs) deliver the justice. It would be swift anyway, and it would likely result in the deaths of dozens of defense lawyers.
I love this idea spider of a ‘Impeachment Woodstock’ or a ‘Impeachment Pallooza Tour’…and impeachment wristbands I think is a genius marketing idea..what color? I was thinking yellow for chickenshit ratbastard traitors although Lance Armstrong has a yellow wristband ..maybe red for blood on their hands?
And a little stopover in Iraq to maybe experience some of that ‘we do not torture people’ fun…before they’re hauled off permanently.
is no Allie Dennison, that’s for sure.
I saw Woodward and Bernstein most recently on The Daily Show about two months ago. Bernstein was bright, engaged, and passionate. Woodward was detached and cynical and obviously using the interview to spread some talking points he’d come with, rather than addressing Jon’s questions. A spectacular shill, and none too clever about it. It’s very sad.
Was that a reference to Allie Demming? If so, it is the first one I have ever seen in print. And I am humbled. 🙂
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A character from my novel (see Boo Store). She is a journalist with integrity. People seem to like her. 🙂
Demming, that’s what I meant, not Dennison. Darn. I did read the book, really. And liked it.
Don’t apologize. I’m flattered. I sometimes have a hard time remembering their names myself. Cast of thousands and all, and another novel or two intervening in my head. Seriously cool to see that reference. I just booked my first radio interview. I will try to post something about it. Woo hoo.
If I read this correctly, both Woodward and Miller are paid hacks for this administration, along with Armstrong, Gallagher, and Ryan?
No wonder the gov’t has wanted to do anything about media mergers. The fewer and richer hands that control the media, the more the direct links to the gov’t.
Yes. This administration seems to rival another administration in 20s Germany, when it comes to the government use of propaganda.
Woodward must have gotten himself confused with this heroic guy. The actor made the reporter look too good, must be hard to handle.
I have always dug Robert Redford. If I was into guys, I think he would be my type.