Should those two nouns logically be paired, repeatedly, in the same sentence, so to speak? Depends who you are:
Military Jury: No Jail Time For Interrogator Who Killed Iraqi
[A] military jury in Colorado ruled last night an Army interrogator who killed an Iraqi general would not have to serve any time in jail. The interrogator — Chief Warrant Officer Lewis Welshofer Jr. – killed the Iraqi man after putting a sleeping bag over his head, wrapping him in electrical cord, sitting on his chest and covering his mouth. Over the weekend the military jury convicted Welshofer of negligent homicide which carries a maximum prison term of three years. But the jury chose instead to fine him $6,000 and ordered him to spend the next 60 days restricted to his home, office and church.The Los Angeles Times reports soldiers and officers inside the courtroom broke out in applause after the jury announced Welshofer would not be jailed for the killing. (Democracy Now! headlines)
Peace Activist Gets 6 Months in Jail For Recruiting Station Protest
In upstate New York, a peace activist has been sentenced to six months in jail for pouring blood inside a military recruiting station in March 2003 in order to protest the invasion of Iraq. The man, Daniel Burns, 45, was one of a group now known as the St. Patrick’s Four. The other three members will also be sentenced this week. (Democracy Now! headlines)
We can say these punishments are unfair and inequitable. But there really is no logical comparison that can be made between the crimes that could explain — in any rational way — why the second crime merits imprisonment, and the first does not. As the LAT reports:
The sentence was a stunning reprieve for Chief Warrant Officer Lewis E. Welshofer Jr., 43, who a few days ago faced possible life in prison and the dubious distinction of being the highest-ranking soldier tried on charges of murdering an Iraqi detainee.
How in the name of all we consider right and just can this be how the jury thought?
The jury apparently agreed with defense arguments that Welshofer had believed he was following orders to use creative interrogation techniques when he put Iraqi Maj. Gen. Abed Hamed Mowhoush face-first in a sleeping bag, wrapped him in electrical wire and sat on his chest in November 2003. The 57-year-old general died after 20 minutes in the bag.
This man wasn’t a flunky. He was an officer. We can easily compare how he CHOSE to react to the remarkably heroic actions of “Hugh Thompson – the former Army helicopter pilot who helped stop the My Lai Massacre in 1968 when U.S. troops slaughtered hundreds of innocent Vietnamese villagers …”
But then, as now, the Army did not punish those who slaughtered the Vietnamese — only one soldier was ever convicted for the killing spree From the introduction. last Wednesday, (January 18, 2006) to Amy Goodman’s interview with former Army Specialist Lawrence Colburn who helped Thompson end the massacre.
We turn now to another American figure of the Vietnam War – Hugh Thompson. As a helicopter pilot, he helped rescue Vietnamese civilians from fellow U.S. troops during the infamous My Lai massacre. Hugh Thompson died last week of cancer. He was 62 years old. … continued below …
On March 16, 1968, Thompson and two other crewmembers landed their helicopter in front of U.S. troops firing on Vietnamese civilians in the village of My Lai. They pointed their guns at their fellow service members to prevent more killings, and helped evacuate the villagers. In a few minutes, we are going to be joined by one of Thompson’s crewmembers. First, we take a look at what happened on March 16th, 1968 by playing an edited excerpt from a documentary produced by Mike Boehm titled “The Sound of the Violin in My Lai.”
Thompson and Lawrence Colburn later testified at the court martial hearings for the massacre of over 300 civilians at My Lai. Only one U.S. soldier, platoon commander Lieutenant William Calley, was convicted. He was court-martialed and sentenced to life in prison for his role in the massacre. Many around the country viewed Calley as a scapegoat. “Rallies for Calley” were held all over the country and Jimmy Carter, then governor of Georgia, urged citizens to leave car headlights on to show support for Calley. President Richard Nixon later commuted Calley’s sentence to three years of house arrest.
Thompson, on the other hand, was shunned for years by fellow soldiers. He received death threats and was once told by a congressman that he was the only American who should be punished over My Lai. Although the My Lai massacre became one of the most infamous atrocities of the Vietnam War, little was known about Hugh Thompson’s actions for decades.
In 1998, Thompson and his two crewmembers, Lawrence Colburn and Glenn Andreotta, were awarded the Soldier’s Medal, the highest US military award for bravery not involving conflict with an enemy. Andreotta’s award was posthumous. He was killed in Vietnam less than a month after My Lai.
Thompson passed away last week after a prolonged battle with cancer. Lawrence Colburn was at his bedside when he died.
You’ll also find particularly poignant the interview with the remarkable Lawrence Colburn by reading the transcript, or — better yet — listening/watching the interview. … a small example:
So at that point, Glenn Andreotta spotted an earthen-type bunker with some faces peering out of it. And there was an approaching squad of Americans. And we — Mr. Thompson decided, and we all decided that if we didn’t do something within the next 30 seconds, these people would die. So he landed the aircraft in between the advancing American troops and the people in the bunker, went over and spoke to a lieutenant and told him — or asked him how we could get these people out of the bunker. They were obviously civilians. And the lieutenant replied he’d get them out with hand grenades. …
And this:
AMY GOODMAN: And you’re the last of the three of you surviving. Glenn Andreotta died in Vietnam right after My Lai. Your thoughts today about the action you took, just in introducing you, talking about the Congress member saying to Hugh Thompson, “You’re the only one that should be prosecuted for My Lai.”
LAWRENCE COLBURN: I believe that was Mendel Rivers. Well, it had a toll on Hugh. He was tormented by not only My Lai, but the way he was treated when he just told the truth and did what was morally right. People came after him and tried to discredit him. He was ostracized in the military, but he never turned his back on them. He stayed in the military. His message would be how important it is to maintain integrity and honor and honesty within the ranks of the military.
AMY GOODMAN: You returned with Hugh Thompson, you returned to Vietnam. You returned to My Lai and the whole area, and you met with the survivors, the people that you saved.
LAWRENCE COLBURN: Yes, and their offspring. Yes. ….
Bless those men and their courage in doing the right thing.
But what of a society in which the terms — CRIME and PUNISHMENT— have no logical meaning?
If the crime is committed, dripping not only with the victims’ blood but also the red, white, and blue, does that excuse whatever’s been done?
Is our citizenry so sick in mind and heart that, yesterday, they APPLAUD the jury’s decision not to give hief Warrant Officer Lewis Welshofer Jr.any jail time at all, and that, for years and years, they tormented a man who tried to stop a slaughter in Vietnam?
Are we that pathologically patriotic in this country?
Is this freedom? Is this bringing people to justice?
The Red Regime has waged war on US. The American People. They spy on us and take away our freedoms, human rights and civil liberties.
They are jailing us for holding up signs and now they can jail us if they PERCEIVE US as DISRUPTORS!!!
http://www.codepinkalert.org/article.php?list=type&type=98
below taken from CodePink’s website:
It has been two months since Diane Wilson was jailed for her protest against Dick Cheney. She is still being held in a Texas jail and according to a recent letter from her, the conditions are very grim.
“Corporate greed and its administrative henchmen have many faces and deadly results–from the 10,000 gassed in a pesticide cloud in Bhopal, India to the tens of thousands Iraqi and American dead in an unjust war.”
Diane Wilson.
Diane Wilson Detained During Cheney Speech
December 5, 2005: In protest against the wanton corruption of the Bush Administration and Congressman Tom DeLay; Halliburton and war profiteering, CODEPINK organized a large, spirited, and peaceful protest against Cheney, DeLay, and their policies of war, repression, and injustice. The demonstration was held at the Westin Oaks Hotel, Houston, where Republicans had gathered for a fundraiser.
Katie Heim reports from inside the Westin Oaks Hotel: This evening, as Republicans gathered in the Galleria to raise money for the GOP Diane Wilson, cofounder of CODEPINK and author of An Unreasonable Woman infiltrated their ranks. Photos of the banner and arrest. Wilson, who has done work around issues such as the Bhopal distaster and against the Iraq war, got on Delay’s RSVP list by donating $50 to his campaign. After speeches by the chairman of the Republican Party and a rousing rendition of “God Bless the USA” Tom Delay himself took the stage.
Delay referenced the protesters outside, citing the Socialists and the Progressive Workers parties. Then Cheney himself took the stage. Wilson was about 15 to 20 feet away from the VP when she opened up her black velvet wrap to reveal a banner which read “Corporate Greed Kills-From Bhopal to Bagdad”. Conservative moralists nearby grabbed Wilson as she chanted “Corporate Greed Kills, and Iraq kills too!” One GOP member called Wilson a bitch and a whore. Police dragged Wilson out and she’s still detained as of this report.
This whole thing is getting pretty scary. They have the judiciary branch already. They can dismantle the constitution at their leisure.
Dear Salunga!! You know what else is scary… they’ve been doing the entire time.
Down below a poster shares that a man can repeatedly rape a child and get NOTHING but a teen selling a fucking joint gets 60 years.
It’s about the Bush Red Regime Enemy. Marijuan is not on his agenda.. well actually imprisoning patients and recreational usesr and pardoning his corrupt cornies …
I truly don’t see the public getting upset untill this affects their fucking SuperBowl.
We can have entier families disappear – hell entire regions (Gulf States) go under and Americans change the channel to American Idol or some beauty pageant.
Can I be imprisoned for posting this?? We’ll see.
She is STILL in jail?
Is the military really capable of making an objective disposition in such a matter, regarding one of its own, especially in the current climate?
All I can do is shake my head. I don’t understand us at all.
(PS Susan, did you get my email yesterday?)
between justice for “them” and for “us” is just a micro version of what America has become, the way the smallest part of a fractal is just a little version of the whole.
If we cared for anything like justice, Bush and the rest of the gang would be on death row right now. But punishment is for the outsiders, the foreign, the loud, the poor. Our media and “entertainment” are primarily concerned with promoting the “celebrity” delusion — that the few, the powerful, the rich are the ones whose live really matter, and that somehow by worshipping them our own lives absorb that ersatz glamour. Every time we forget that the marriage or murder of the bus driver or janitor is just as important as those events when they happen to “stars” or debutantes or political hacks, we become complicit in the manufactured delusions that justify all that this admirable diary describes.
As to your last question, Susan, patriotism is always pathology, just like its twin, priestly religion. Both are, as wise people observed long ago, the first and last resort of the scoundrel. Both give the thoughtless and the mindless an excuse and a community in support of acting out their worst nativist impulses. If the human species wishes to survive it will have to find ways to beat them both into irrelevance.
I read the article not from here but someplace else and if I am correct, there was a jurist that wanted to add something new for the trial, but was too late..so maybe there will be new findings and something else will come out.
I do not want anyone to feel I am beguiling here, but when it comes to upholding the Geneva conventions rules, there has got to be this for all, not just a few. If and when, I am to treat an enemy, as a nurse, I have to do it. It is the standard of which I took my oath. I care for not just my friends but mine enemies as well. If I mistreat him/her or abuse him/her, I am liable for my own actions. I suffere the consequences.
I know this man and his family are very happy that the ruling came down this way. I see the sort of punishment this one man got but not for the others who will spend time in Leavenworth. He should have been tried and convicted on 2nd degree murder. Punishment advising to fit the crime.
NO..not nowadays…they can actually get away with actual murder! This to me is the real crime of it all. Yes he is an officer and they are held to higher standards, morals and ethics than the subordinates. But he had to know he did wrong. Now he has to carry this to his grave knowing all the time what he did….in his heart and mind, he will suffer the consequences of the crime of which he committed, whether there is a new trial or not!
To truly appreciate the how outrageous this is, read about the horror that was
The Last 3 days of general Mowhoush’s Life and tell me you aren’t sickened by what is being done in our name
I had read thsi before. I so totally agree with you that this is morbid treatment of any human being! I had hoped that this trial would have given this man the justice he so diserved, even after his death. This goes to show how bad our military has gotten. I am ashamed this is done in my/our name. Now the standards are set for them to do this to us. I have wondered if we have any MIA/POW’s out there that they are not telling us about and that this is the type of treatment they are given in retaliation. It is no wonder that things are not going well! Thanks for posting this for others to see.
BTW, I read an article that the prisoner had fractured ribs that punctured his lung and other fractions and organ failures. Then the Old commander after putting him in the sleeping back began to sit and jump upon him. I am sure this might have been the last thing that brought the prisoner to his death of not something else. I think this Warrent officer has a lot to be held for as well as others. I do not want to even get into the scorpions…what a shit load of shit to have to deal with. Then one looks at the sentencing of the warrent officer…what the hell is going on in my/our military…and we declared war on them not the other way around..this is a war of choice….please excuse my launguage here, but F**k them all to hell..and I am old military and I do not like what I am hearing here…
we do not want to get me started on the mylei incident! NO NO NO!!!!!! I go absolutely bonkers with that one…and colin powell was involved in that one too..Just remember who these ppl are that are forcing this crap down our throats…never ever forget!!!
More facts to make the soul ache. This is just more evidence of the truth: we’re living in a fascist state.
The contrast in sentences in this story is about the most shocking I’ve seen.
But every week we see examples of shockingly unjust sentences. Recently there was a guy who had repeatedly raped a 7-year-old girl over a long period: he received no sentence at all, because the judge reportedly no longer believes in punishment. The same week, a young first offender was sentenced to something like 60 years in prison for selling marijuana.
At first blush, that pair of sentences might not seem parallel to the ones in the story, but think about it. In both sets, the first sentence involves a criminal basically getting away with murder. In both, the second sentence involves the suppression of dissent (considering marijuana use as a kind of liberty of expression).
oh my gawd!
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Mowhoush Torture Death Negligent Homicide ¶ 3 year Sentence Expected
Sun Jan 22nd, 2006 at 04:05:22 AM PST
Interrogated general’s sleeping-bag death, CIA’s use of secret Iraqi squad are among details
Iraqi Maj. Gen. Abed Hamed Mowhoush was being stubborn with his American captors, and a series of intense beatings and creative interrogation tactics were not enough to break his will. On the morning of Nov. 26, 2003, a U.S. Army interrogator and a military guard grabbed a green sleeping bag, stuffed Mowhoush inside, wrapped him in an electrical cord, laid him on the floor and began to go to work. Again.
It was inside the sleeping bag that the 56-year-old detainee took his last breath through broken ribs, lying on the floor beneath a U.S. soldier in Interrogation Room 6 in the western Iraqi desert. Two days before, a secret CIA-sponsored group of Iraqi paramilitaries, working with Army interrogators, had beaten Mowhoush nearly senseless, using fists, a club and a rubber hose, according to classified documents.
≈ Cross-posted from RubDMC’s diary —
Iraq War Grief Daily Witness (photo) Day 228 ≈
“But I will not let myself be reduced to silence.”
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“A military jury of six officers ordered a reprimand for an officer once facing up to life in prison for the death of an Iraqi general during an interrogation session.
Chief Warrant Officer Lewis Welshofer Jr. also was ordered to forfeit $6,000 salary and was restricted to his place of work, worship and barracks for 60 days. The sentence now goes to the commanding general, Maj. Gen. Robert W. Mixon, who can order a lighter sentence or set the whole verdict aside, defense attorney Frank Spinner said.”
Applause
The six-member military panel delivered the sentence at 8:05 p.m. After the panel members left the courtroom, Welshofer’s friends and fellow soldiers erupted in applause, watching as he shook hands with attorneys Frank Spinner and Capt. Ryan Rosauer. Welshofer, 43, then kissed and embraced Barbara Welshofer, his wife of 22 years.
Chief Warrant Officer Lewis Welshofer Jr. was told
to "take the gloves off". AP / Jerilee Bennett
“I have the utmost respect for the decision that the panel members came to tonight,” Welshofer said. “I’m sure it was very difficult on them, and I can tell you it was a little bit difficult on myself and my family as well.”
“But I will not let myself be reduced to silence.”
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Mowhoush received versus that received by Burns, though both were guilty of the same crime: opposing US policies.
Mowhoush was tortured to death, while the Burns received six months in jail.
Why was Burns given a more lenient sentence?
Perhaps because of his nationality, he is considered to be human despite his crime, whereas Mowhoush, because of his nationality and ethnicity, was not considered human in the first place, or perhaps because it would have been logistically less convenient to punish Burns in the same manner at this time.
A few years ago Mowhoush’s punishment would not have enjoyed the cultural acceptance among mainstream Americans that it does today. Some might not have even considered him or Burns to be criminals at all.
It’s a transition, a process, and discrepancies such as this are to be accepted.
While there is no way to predict what additional punishment may be administered to Burns behind prison walls, within a year, more or less, it will probably be culturally acceptable to punish him in the same way Mowhoush was, and publicly.
within a year, more or less, it will probably be culturally acceptable to punish him in the same way Mowhoush was, and publicly.
An article on the recent NW eco-sabotage arrests notes that there were originally 12, not 11, suspects under surveillance:
We probably have at least 2 1/2 years ’til the “public” part is reached . . .
that will be made by Mr. Murdoch and his rivals/colleagues at AOL-Time Warner, after judicious analysis of market studies.
Heard this this AM on NPR – it’s worth listening to:
We are living in a Fascist State and it is not going to get any better, any time soon. I really am scared that we are in for a long riegn of Police State just down the road.