Glenn Greenwald started a little blog swarm with his post yesterday, “Whose judgment on the Iraq War is entitled to respect?”
Here is the section about Howard Dean:
“when one reviews the pre-war arguments made by Howard Dean as to why the war was ill-advised, it is glaringly self-evident just how right he was — at a time when few others recognized it — about virtually everything. Here are excerpts from a speech Dean gave on February 17, 2003 — just over a month before we invaded — at Drake University which reflects the prescient warnings he was making back then:
“I believe it is my patriotic duty to urge a different path to protecting America’s security: To focus on al Qaeda, which is an imminent threat, and to use our resources to improve and strengthen the security and safety of our home front and our people while working with the other nations of the world to contain Saddam Hussein. . . .
Had I been a member of the Senate, I would have voted against the resolution that authorized the President to use unilateral force against Iraq – unlike others in that body now seeking the presidency.
That the President was given open-ended authority to go to war in Iraq resulted from a failure of too many in my party in Washington who were worried about political positioning for the presidential election.
The stakes are so high, this is not a time for holding back or sheepishly going along with the herd.
To this day, the President has not made a case that war against Iraq, now, is necessary to defend American territory, our citizens, our allies, or our essential interests.
The Administration has not explained how a lasting peace, and lasting security, will be achieved in Iraq once Saddam Hussein is toppled.
I, for one, am not ready to abandon the search for better answers.
As a doctor, I was trained to treat illness, and to examine a variety of options before deciding which to prescribe. I worried about side effects and took the time to see what else might work before proceeding to high-risk measures. . . .
We have been told over and over again what the risks will be if we do not go to war.
We have been told little about what the risks will be if we do go to war.
If we go to war, I certainly hope the Administration’s assumptions are realized, and the conflict is swift, successful and clean. I certainly hope our armed forces will be welcomed like heroes and liberators in the streets of Baghdad.I certainly hope Iraq emerges from the war stable, united and democratic.
I certainly hope terrorists around the world conclude it is a mistake to defy America and cease, thereafter, to be terrorists.
It is possible, however, that events could go differently, . . . .
Iraq is a divided country, with Sunni, Shia and Kurdish factions that share both bitter rivalries and access to large quantities of arms.
Anti-American feelings will surely be inflamed among the misguided who choose to see an assault on Iraq as an attack on Islam, or as a means of controlling Iraqi oil.
And last week’s tape by Osama bin Laden tells us that our enemies will seek relentlessly to transform a war into a tool for inspiring and recruiting more terrorists.
There are other risks. Iraq is a divided country, with Sunni, Shia and Kurdish factions that share both bitter rivalries and access to large quantities of arms.”
Greenwald: “Using the standard rhetorical tactic of Bush followers, Dean was caricatured and falsely accused by Republicans, some Democrats, and an easily manipulated media as being some sort of radical pacifist subversive who should be mocked rather than listened to. That was achieved only by distorting his views. As Dean made repeatedly clear, he favors fighting wars which are truly necessary to defend the United States from imminent threats, but he believed there was no persuasive evidence demonstrating that Saddam constituted a threat which justified the war.
And those who claim that there was nobody before the war who doubted that Saddam Hussein possessed WMDs which compelled our invasion ought to read this passage from Dean’s speech:”
“Now, I am not among those who say that America should never use its armed forces unilaterally. In some circumstances, we have no choice. In Iraq, I would be prepared to go ahead without further Security Council backing if it were clear the threat posed to us by Saddam Hussein was imminent, and could neither be contained nor deterred.
However, that case has not been made, and I believe we should continue the hard work of diplomacy and inspection. . . .
Secretary Powell’s recent presentation at the UN showed the extent to which we have Iraq under an audio and visual microscope. Given that, I was impressed not by the vastness of evidence presented by the Secretary, but rather by its sketchiness. .”
Greenwald: “Can anyone dispute that Dean was right about virtually every prediction and claim he made, every warning that he issued about why invading Iraq was ill-advised and counter-productive? Compare this outright prescience from Dean to the war supporters’ declarations of cakewalks, predictions of glorious victory celebrations, promises that the war would pay for itself, Purple Finger celebrations where they insisted that democracy was upon us, errors regarding the number of troops needed, inexcusable failure to anticipate or plan the insurgency, and shrill fear-mongering about Saddam’s non-existent weapons.”
Greenwald followed this post with another one on “The troop withdraw debate.” Greenwald concludes:
“The post I wrote earlier today regarding Howard Dean’s accurate pre-war warnings about Iraq was followed by an interesting debate in the comments section about whether we ought to withdraw our troops immediately. Some argued that there is something corrupt about Howard Dean’s position because, having opposed the war in the first place, he is opposed to immediate withdraw now. The argument was made that anyone who opposed invading Iraq in the first place must now favor immediate troop withdraw. Unfortunately, the issue isn’t that simple and the moral issues aren’t nearly that clear.
Regardless of whether one favored the invasion, the reality is that we invaded that country, removed its government, and smashed the (corrupt and murderous) regime which ruled the country with an iron fist, maintaining relative social stability. There is chaos in Iraq because we created the chaos. It is incredibly irresponsible to just casually demand that, having done all of that, we simply leave because we changed our mind about the war and just don’t want to stay any more.
We have an ethical responsibility to do what we can — if there is anything — to help Iraq regain some semblance of stability and peace. We have no right to simply leave the country engulfed by a civil war and drowning in anarchy because we grew tired of our little project or changed our minds about its morality. If we are achieving any good at all with our military occupation – or if we can achieve any good – we have the obligation to do so. The sovereign elected government of that country does not want us to leave because they fear that our troop withdraw will severely worsen the instability and increase the violence in their country…”
Cross-posted at www.seattlefordean.com and www.howieinseattle.com.
Everytime he spoke on the subject he was honest about believing that once we got there we would experience serious consequences if we just left, and as serious if we stayed. So would the whole of Europe and the world. He said now that we are there, that was the phrase.
So he has always said that, but no one paid attention pre-war.
Yup.
So…why isn’t he running for President?
Can some of you Dem suppoorters please explain this to me again? I am very sketchy on the facts, here.
I DO know this:
1-He has been RIGHT ON THE MONEY for…what? Going on 6 years, now?
2-You allowed the MSM to perform a textbook media assassination on him…LED by the bad grey NY Times…and run that social climber wimp Small K kerry in his place.
3-You still discuss the NY Tiimes as if it were an unbiased and high class newspaper instead of a tool of the ruling class.
4-And you seriously discuss the Presidential possibilities of people like the Joe Biden (the honorable Senator from MBNA) and Mark Warner…Kerry II, in my book…whhile never even MENTIONING a draft Dean movement.
What?
Did I miss something, here.
I’m telling you…this man is our Churchill.
ENOUGH with the Chamberlains.
Have you no sense of decency, sirs? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
How about simple pragmatism?
Meritocracy?
Running the best candidate for the office?
Whatever happened to THAT idea?
Unbelievable…
And you wonder why the Dems lose…
Unbelievable.
AG
They just did it. Takes time to get power like that..took them decades.
No floridagal…the Democratic Party ALLOWED it.
Why? How? I am not sure….
Out of weakness?
Fear?
Bone deep stupidity?
Coercion?
The cooperation of a bunch of double dealing moles?
Middle-class ennui?
Personal political and/or financial self-interest?
Media-applied hypnotism?
Any and all of the above, more than likely.
“Takes time to get power like that..took them decades.”????
Didn’t take Dean much time to start a steamroller that scared them to DEATH.
BOTH so-called sides.
The truth builds power amazingly quickly, which is why they had to stage a summary execution POSTHASTE.
And you…every one of you who took part in that sham convention and sham election…”ALLOWED” it.
Jesus H. CHRIST!!!
Y’all fucked up.
At LEAST admit it!!!
AG
You can use the words f—ed up to me all you want. But I didn’t. The people of the party didn’t. It was the wing of the party that long ago sold out to the corporations.
Blame me all you want if you feel better. I have a job to do. That job is make the party better instead of telling others they f—ed up.
We are working here locally, making change, irritating if necessary.
Dean is not president because TPTB in the Democratic Party decided to misrepresent what he stood for. It started with the first DLC memo in May 2003.
“Dean is not president because TPTB in the Democratic Party decided to misrepresent what he stood for. “
Of course they did.
And what on EARTH makes you think that the result will be any different this time?
Let me ask you, floridagal…did you work for kerry?
Did you vote for him?
Then it is YOUR error.
You tacitly…and peacefully…accepted the scam.
Are you working grassroots to change the Democratic Party now?
A noble idea…but also doomed to failure.
MAYBE some really slick politician like Hillary Clinton MIGHT have the chops to sneak on through while preserving some semblance of good intentions, but if she does get to the other side she will be so laden down with debts, with favors owed that she will be essentially hamstrung.
Only a candidate whose money comes primarily FROM THE PEOPLE will be free of this problem, and that alone was what disqualified Dean in the eyes of his corporate beholders.
He would have been largely be “owned”…he would have owed…the PEOPLE.
And the machine state cannot have that. At ALL costs they cannot have THAT.
Would you…we…have won the election if we had stood up en masse and said “NO!!!”???
When the media assassination took place?
I doubt it. Kerry might have lost even bigger.
BUT THE GROUND WOULD ALREADY HAVE BEEN PLOWED AND SEEDED FOR THE NEXT TIME.
Dean is to blame for this as well.
He took the inside route.
I think that it was a mistake. I think that you cannot repair the hull of the Democratic Party. Too much dry rot already.
But then…he didn’t ask me.
I’m not a pro.
“First, kill all the lawyers.” Shakespeare.
Yup…
Now…who knows?
This national illness may have to reach a real crisis point before things change.
And”we” could have halted the illness IN ITS TRACKS if we had stood up and said “We are madder than hell and we will not take it anymore” when they trashed Dean and hired the hack.
Marched on that goddamned convention until we filled the Big Dig with the fire of protest.
But…didn’t happen.
And tp all of those who KNEW what was going down and did not at least TRY to raise a voice against it…
J’ACCUSE!!!
Sorry, florida…
But there it is in black and white.
“WE” acceded to the people who are prosecuting this Blood For Oil War the moment we did not step up for Dean.
And “we” are to blame for it.
AG
Any person with the capacity to think knew Howard Dean was right then as he is shown to be now. Those who attacked Dean as a pacifist did so with an agenda that did not include the security of the United States, but rather advancing an untested hunch of a bunch of idiot neo-cons and a President without the capacity to reason. Those who didn’t know that Howard was right, wouldn’t believe him because, like my religious rightie mother in law, they think that nothing else matters as long as someone rails against abortion and gay people don’t get married.
Greenwald’s post simply illuminates the depravity of the mainstream media which #1 is not objective, and #2 doesn’t really know what objective means. For example, in the debates with Gore, Bush simply lied about the math involved in the Social Security discussion. The media called that a difference of opinion. A difference of opinion is when we disagree on whether one feels cold at 65 degrees or 60 degrees. Media reports that one person stated that 2 plus 2 is four and the other that it is 5 because 2 plus 2 equals four is part of the gay agenda is not objectivty; it is chickenshit journalism.
Howard Rules. He did in 2003 and 2004 and he does now.
The Democratic Party should ignore all the wimpy Senators who claim to speak for us, when they actually only speak for their own presidential ambitions. On National Security issues, the Democrats should have Howard Dean and John Murtha as Vox Populi.
YOU’VE got it, phronesis.
AG