According to the NYT, there are no clear/real numbers of the poor since 1963.
NOLA opened the ugly door of poverty and maybe that needed to happen.
A good example is the poverty line, the nation’s official measure of need. Economists have long argued that the poverty line should be revised to provide an accurate picture of who is actually poor. Yet it has remained essentially untouched since 1963, when Mollie Orshansky, an economist at the Social Security Administration, first came up with it.
Today, there is a consensus among economists that it is no longer on the mark. “Everyone agrees we need a better measure,” said Douglas J. Besharov, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and a professor of public policy at the University of Maryland.
To him and many others, the public lacks an accurate test of who is poor, making it far harder to justify actions, whether by government or by individuals, intended to alleviate poverty.
I don’t know how we would ever really know the real number of poor citizens or the percentage. We don’t like being poor. And it changes every day due to lay-offs, medical crisis, divorce etc.
Still, much has changed since the 1950’s. Today, families spend something close to 12 percent of income on food, for example, not one-third. And while some of the remaining 88 percent may go to nonessentials, items such as housing, transportation and health care are significant, and expensive, factors.
Much is at stake. The poverty line is widely viewed as an indicator of social progress. A decline in poverty is seen as a national achievement, and an increase in poverty as a sign of problems.
Day to day, the poverty measure directly affects the lives of millions of Americans. At least $60 billion in federal aid annually is linked to the poverty measure, and $260 billion or so in Medicaid spending takes it into account. At the state and local level, thousands of government programs use the poverty line to determine eligibility.
So why hasn’t such an important statistic been updated to reflect modern conditions? The answer is politics. Thanks to a quirk of history, the poverty indicator, unlike many other economic statistics, is not under the jurisdiction of an authoritative statistical agency like the Bureau of Economic Analysis or the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Instead, it resides in perhaps the most political place of all: the office of the president. And during the last four decades, no president of either party has wanted to draw attention to a statistic that the nation has come to take for granted, especially if updating it might cause the number of people regarded as living in poverty to increase.
Do we need to know, want to know or care to know?
Having been poor upon occassion, and knowing that another medical crisis, loss of spouse by death or divorce, I would be there again. I dare say that many of us are on the edge.
We learned the other day that
there were many more billionares this year in America. I wonder how many more poor people these billionares created as they stepped up on our backs?
multiply that number by a factor of at least 150-300, for the retirement and benefits they stole to get to that status, that will probably bring us close ; )
good catch rosee, and I for one would love to know the real numbers.
peace be with you.
The Guardian
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These statistics alone, just these few, are so perverse–it’s enough to make you wanna vomit.
I do not know. Do not understand. How ANY American. ANY. Can look at these statistics and not be so ashamed of him/herself that s/he immediately looks for the nearest rock to crawl under–bc yes, BushCo has amplified the problem greatly–increasing the number of poor by 5 million. But the 37 million didn’t get there ‘yesterday,’ nor did the 46 million uninsured or the 82K homeless in LA.
Maybe that’s what’s going on with the apathy and indifference: it is so shameful that we simply can’t face it. Better to duck and cover. Better to say it aint so.
I don’t know. Just about every day of my life, I wake up faced with a choice as an American citizen: either find the nearest rock to crawl under, or go out and keep doing what I’ve been doing for the past 20 yrs or so: go out in the world, and seize the opportunity for every random act of kindness (toward the poor) that you are able to seize.
So anyway, today is one of those ‘look for a rock’-days, and I’m going to bury my head in work.
I’ve been bitching about the statistics for years..they are so unreal as to be meaningless as any real indicator of the poverty level in this country.
20 thousand for a family of 4, you could make that 30 thousand and that family of 4 would still be in a very dangerous zone, if not outright poverty. Or just a hairs breath away if one tiny thing goes wrong, car breaking down, broken leg and no insurance, any of the two kids getting sick, a million different ways that make it almost impossible for poor families to climb out of poverty on their own.
My feeling is that whatever poverty numbers(those ‘numbers’ are real families living day to day just hoping to get by and hoping that nothing goes wrong so they don’t become homeless also)you see simply double that and that might be a more accurate account of families living in poverty. Here in the supposed richest country in the world.