Perhaps my interest in the intersection of parenting and politics comes from the fact that I was trained as a family therapist combined with my lifelong interest in politics. But it also might be the result of being raised in a family of fundamentalist right-wing christians and the years I devoted to healing from the wounds to myself and my soul that were a result of that upbringing. But regardless of the roots of that interest, I can’t help but feel that the parenting practices with which we are raised have an impact on the political ideologies to which we attach. I know that when it comes to human beings, the confluence of factors that lead us to who we become are complex and not reducable to simplistic answers. But I do think that there is a lot that we know about all of this, and yet often don’t recognize.
I thought about titling this diary “On Making Human Beings Human,” which is a take-off on the title of a book by developmental psychologist Urie Bronfenbrenner. I was immediately attracted to this title because we DO know that without relationships and attachment to caring adults, children do not grow into being the compassionate, self-directed, and moral beings that we know is our destiny. And yet we see in our culture, too many children are growing up without these qualities and are therefore sold a bill of goods that the aquisition of more things and money are our ultimate destiny. We also see a culture of people so vulnerable to fear that manipulation of that emotion has become the bedrock of our politics. How is that happening?
Well, imagine my surprise this week when I learned that none other than George Lakoff – guru of the infamous “framing” debate – has written about this in his book “Moral Politics: How Liberals and Conservatives Think” in a chapter “Raising Real Children.”
He starts with a rather alarming summary of the way christian fundamentalists have framed the issue of morality and their approach to parenting which he labels the “Strict Father Model.” He sees this model promoted primarily by Dobson, but others as well. The primary focus of parenting in this model is obedience. Anytime a child challenges a parent’s authority, punishment must be swift and focused on breaking the willful disobedience completely. Here are quotes Lakoff uses to demonstrate:
When youngsters display stiff-necked rebellion, you must be willing to respond to the challenge immediately. When nose-to-nose confrontation occurs between you and your child, it is not the time to discuss the virtues of obedience. It is not the occasion to send him to his room to pout. Nor is it the time to postpone disciplinary measures till your tired spouse plods home from work.
You have drawn a line in the dirt, and the child has deliberately flopped his bony little toe across it. Who is going to win? Who has the most courage? (Dobson)The only issue in rebellion is will; in other words, who is going to rule, the parent or the child. The major objective of chastisement [that is, physical punishment] is forcing the child’s obedience to the will of his parents. (Fugate)
The spanking should be administered firmly. It should be painful and it should last until the child’s will is broken. It should last until the child is crying, not tears of anger, but tears of a broken will. As long as he is stiff, grits his teeth, holds on to his own will, the spanking should continue. (Hyles)
But it gets worse. Boys and girls are to be treated differently in the Strick Father Model:
Obedience is the most necessary ingredient to be required from the child. This is especially true for a girl, for she must be obedient all her life. The boy who is obedient to his mother and father will some day become the head of the home; not so for the girl. Whereas the boy is being trained to be a leader, the girl is being trained to be a follower. Hence, obedience is far more important to her, for she must some day transfer it from her parents to her husband. This means that she should never be allowed to argue at all. She should become submissive and obedient. She must obey immediately, without question, and without argument. The parents who require this have done a big favor for their future son-in-law. (Hyles)
So, you want to understand right-wing christian fundamentalists? This is a big part of what you need to know. This is how they raise their children. Talking to them rationally about politics does not get to the heart of how they have been broken as human beings. In order for them to be able to hear your rational message, the sunshine of healing from this kind of abuse needs to shine on their broken souls.
Lakoff then goes on to describe 3 other models of parening. His contrast to the Strict Father model is the Nurturing Parent model which he summarizes this way:
Expectation for mature behavior from child and clear standard setting.
Firm enforcement of rules and standards using commands and sanctions when necessary.
Encouragement of the child’s independence and individuality.
Open communication between parents and children, with parents listening to children’s point of view, as well as expressing their own; encouragement of verbal give-and-take.
Recognition of rights of both parents and children. “Firm enforcement” and “sanctions” do not include painful corporal punishment.
While our friends on the right might not care, this is the model of parenting that research has shown to produce mature and moral adults. Those with the self-esteem and self-control to be able to balance their own needs with compassion for others.
Finally, he describes two other destructive parenting models on the opposite side. They are:
The Indulgent-Permissive Model
Taking a tolerant, accepting attitude toward the child’s impulses, including sexual and aggressive impulses.
Using little punishment and avoiding, whenever possible, asserting authority or imposing controls or restrictions.
Making few demands for mature behavior (e.g., having manners or carrying out tasks).
Allowing children to regulate their own behavior and make their own decisions when at all possible.
Having few rules governing the child’s time-schedule (bedtime, mealtime, TV watching).
The Indifferent-Uninvolved Model
Tending to orient one’s behavior primarily toward the avoidance of inconvenience.
Responding to immediate demands from children in such a way as to terminate the demands.
Being psychologically unavailable.
While Lakoff does not say this, in my practice, I see many children whose parents are either so wealthy and uninvolved that they tend towards these models of parenting, or those who have been raised in families experiencing the third and fourth generation of poverty, criminality, drug abuse and mental illness. Those in the former, when caught (I’d suspect Duke lacrosse players and Enron executives here) exhibit a callousness to others and an entitlement mentality while those in the latter are filling up our prisons at alarming rates.
Where I wanted to go with all of this is to say that, while working on behalf of issues and elections is critical to our process of trying to promote progressive policies in this country, so is helping people know how to parent their children so that we can raise them to be caring, compassionate adults.
about a new organization. It may be this one
http://www.momsrising.org/ since the first post is dated May 10th. I thought she said, “mothersrising” but when I put that into my browser it took me to the link above.
Anyway… she was telling me that it’s being put together by women with connections central to the founding of MoveOn.org, that they’ve determined that parenting is as important as politics, if not more so. It’s interesting that you’ve been thinking along the same lines. You might want to see how you can contribute to their effort.
Compassionate, considerate human beings aren’t born that way; they are nurtured at their mother’s breasts.
Thanks for the tip sjct. I love the site and hadn’t seen it yet. The issues they are raising could be a rallying cry for all parents. Goddess knows that the way the media tends to cover these issues is abominable.
I just wish they would add some discussion about parenting tactics to what they have about the politics of families. We need to know and affirm that HOW children are raised is an important part of our work.
A lot of Lakoff’s work here is based on Diana Baumrind’s work, and her 4 parenting styles. These styles cross high and low control, with high and low warmth.
The thing I’d add to your Indulgent-Permissive parenting is that it mostly also would include high warmth. That is, telling children they are great. Many expressions of positive regard, no matter what the kids do. Believing that building strong self-concept comes from being told how wonderful you are and that you are loved – and being given as much free reign to make your own decisions as possible. Being your kids friend as opposed to their guide or controller in any way. That is what Baumrind calls Indulgent (or Laissez-Faire) parenting.
I’d say in my human development classes, it is the type of parenting that most of my students believe will build the best adults. The students are always ,shocked to find out that they are wrong. The best outcomes for kids is a combination of warmth, along with high amounts of control. Not overcontrol, but good control with high standards and differentiating between what decisions a parent vs. a child needs to make. That AND lots of positive warmth and love. Inductive discipline, not corporal punishment.
I’m with you all the way on that one kidspeak. In our work we talk alot about the twin problems of the Strict Father (we usually use the term “authoritarian”) and the indulgent/permissive model of parenting. But either end of that continuum seems to lead to problems for our our kids.
By the way, I was trained early in the parenting materials developed by Jean Clark (“Self Esteem is a Family Affair”). I still love that she talkes about self esteem being a product of learning that you are valued both for who you ARE and what you DO.
Jean Illsley Clarke? She’s very good. I like her parenting suggestions a lot. We see many parents who have virtually no disciplinary skills other than 1) hitting or 2) time out, or 3) bribing the kid with goodies, or 4) going along with whatever their child wants.
It is sad – if laughable in a terribly funny way – to see parents use time out on an out of control teen.
Yes, Jean Illsey Clarke. Sorry for the mispelling. Its been over 15 years since I taught her parenting materials and I got sloppy.
Jean lives here in the Twin Cities area. So I was priviledged years ago to be trained by her personally and to be a part of a group of parent educators that worked regularly with her. But I’ve lost touch with her lately. I know that last time I heard, she was doing a lot of work on the problems associated with indulgent parents. Thats a model thats tends to be more of a problem for middle and upper income families and doesn’t fit so well with the multi-generational impoverished families that we tend to work with.
One quick Jean story… When she first introduced herself to the training group I was in, she said (paraphrased from memory):
My oldest daughter “Sue” is gifted in reading and writing skills. My second child “Joe” is gifted socially and in bonding with others. My third child is “Mary” and we haven’t discovered her gift yet.
I’ve always loved that story and what it says so sweetly about our limiting attempts to divide children into those who are gifted and those who are not.
She sounds like she must have been a great teacher to have.
I forgot to add that you’re right about Lakoff’s description being based on Baumrind’s model. Should have included that in my diary – he gives her all the credit in his book. I just got carried away with his juxtaposition of parenting models and politics as its one of my interests.
>>>It should last until the child is crying, not tears of anger, but tears of a broken will.<<
I remember it well. It’s taken most of a lifetime to reciver from it.
Thank you for an excellent and badly needed diary. Recommend hightly!
Yeah Scribe, we know about that attempt to break a child’s will don’t we?! But wasn’t it smart of us to do whatever it took to keep it alive?
Now I can just stand back in amazement when my dad tells me that he wonders where he went wrong with me. No, I’m not the obedient little handmaid he tried to produce with all that bullshit. And there ain’t no future son-in-law thats ever going to thank him!!!
Authoritarian parenting can so easily slide into abuse, or (slightly better) just controlling the kid for the sake of doing so. That breeds rebellion in many, and self-destructive tendencies, too.
My parents were autoritarian, and although they didn’t suppress me, they never let me make decisions or learn how to develop any self discipline or decision-making skills on my own, either.
I didn’t see the Strict Mother model listed above ;o)
It was she who tried to physically remove my will. Being male, she could no longer impose her will on me after I got big enough to put an end to it abruptly one day. At that point I was no longer controllable, so was shipped off to my Father, who promptly employed a hybrid model of Indulgent-Permissive/Indifferent-Uninvolved :o)
I’m very grateful for my exposure to such diverse parenting models ;o)
In my role as parent I’ve been reaping the rewards of the Nurturing Parent model with my own independent, loving, inquisitive, and confident kids. The fringe benefit is that they revile GWB as much as I do. I swear it has nothing to do with my brainwashing skills ;o)
I think the only thing I have ever been really jealous of in my life is girls who have had the great fortune of having a dad like you Super. I hope that you will always remember what a wonderful gift you have given them.
I think the Strict Father naming comes from Lakoff. As I said upthread, we usually refer to that model as authoritarian – because it is not dependent on gender.
I do often think, however, about the fact that sometimes you hear Republicans called the “Daddy” party and Democrats the “Mommy” party. I usually see that as a matching of Republicans with the authoritarian approach and Democrats with an indulgent approach.
Thanks for the kind sentiments.
I think the Republicans would like to paint Democrats/democratic parents as permissive/indulgent because it fits the frame they push of the left being weak in general, in all aspects of life. The truth is that from a poor parent standpoint, there are plenty of them to go around. My own Mother was a profile in contradictions. She’s thoroughly liberal, even radically liberal in her politics, and yet very authoritarian in her role as the head of the househols after she and my Dad divorced. Dissent was not tolerated within our relationships(my brothers and I) with her. My way, or the highway type of attitude. Go figure.
I don’t see the “Mommy and Daddy” party labels as referring to how Dems or Repugs actually parent – but rather their approach to policies. Thats part of why I find the conflation of parenting and politics so interesting.
If you read the strict father descriptions above and take out any reference to child and put it terrorists and take out parent and put in Bush/Cheney I think you’ll see what I mean.
And although I, as a part of the social service system, would consider myself a died in the wool bleeding heart liberal, I do see how Dems have at times gone overboard with the indulgent parent policies and left people without a sense of responsibility.
I find so many thoughts popping up.
How do we organize ourselves for survival? Within this is the question of how are conflicts resolved?
Each way of organizing has its benefits and its prices. The conditions, i.e., environmental, economic, and social, have a tremendous impact, determining what works and what doesn’t – what is the level of survival? How much time can be spent resolving conflicts?
We have our animal nature, yet we must be taught how to parent. There are choices, different ways and styles. Who teaches us? We have our personal experiences. We can wonder and seek out what has been learned through study. But, imo, the most powerful teacher in our culture has become the entertainment/commercial media.
It’s the electronic parent.
That SUV commercial of a short time ago, where the family is riding through some gorgeous landscape like Monument Valley, but the kids are watching their individual TVs installed in the backs of the seats captured it for me. Parents free to be disengaged. . .TV hypnosis is controlling the children.
Chris Van Allsberg’s great book The Wretched Stone captured the effects so well – though the book’s message goes right over the heads of many adults.
It is not just the kids being taught by the corporate media – parents too. I think about the magazines at checkout counters which have a monthly “what to worry about” with some sort of accompanying product/service to buy.
The corporate media shows us that we should be “happy” all the time. If we experience any pain, there is something wrong with us that can be cured with the purchase of something. “Happy” children need this or that. Not just children, of course, but everyone with marketing and products adjusted to each identified group.
In the past few years I have watched the marketing of adolescent/adult products to “tweenies,” girls between the ages of eight and thirteen. There is make-up, Winnie-the-Pooh lipstick for example. There are clothing styles made in ever tinier sizes so the “aware” eleven year old can look like a teen. And all of it is in “surround-sound and sight” – a continual bombardment.
We often point out rightwing/Republican legislation that actually strain families. Yet, the corporate media with its drive to increase consumption is also destructive. And it is everywhere – it is not just a matter of turning the tv off.
Thanks for the Van Allsburg reference – I don’t know that one.
It is not just the kids being taught by the corporate media.
I always think about a wonderful story I heard our police chief here in St. Paul tell about this a few years ago. He said that by the 1980’s police departments around the country had concluded that wearing black leather jackets was not helpful for police officers and they had been discontinued. Then along came “NYPD Blue” with the officers all sporting black leather jackets. The show was a HUGE hit and all of the sudden officers started needing black leather jackets again.
So everyone – from crusty independent police officers to our especially vulnerable kids – are influenced regularly by the corporate media’s need to sell us something.
I too have tons of thoughts in response to your comment tampopo.
I think one of the reasons I wanted to have a conversation like this here is that I have such a growing feeling that we’re fighting an uphill battle with our political solutions and that, while necessary, they might not be sufficient to heal the problems we are facing in this culture.
And why is that? I think its because of how we’ve organized our culture and at least a part of that is that we’ve corrupted the process for many in how we “Make Human Beings Human.” The complete focus of all of our efforts on making more money and having more things leaves our children too vulnerable because our nature is to want more out of life – relationships and connections to others, making a difference in the world and a chance to explore the mystery of our life and the universe.
All of those things become possible for our children growing into adults when they are raised with unconditional love and the structure necessary to protect them in the growing up process.
And perhaps due to my work, I’m not just talking about how we raise our own children. But part of our process for changing things will have to be helping those who have been broken to heal and know how to raise theirs. This has been my awareness of how my work with youth and families in an urban area is also part of the process of changing things politically in our country.
As I’m watching Republicans talking about what to do with undocumented workers on MTP – think about this interpretation of one of the Dobson quotes above:
You have drawn a line in the dirt, and the “illegal immigrant” has deliberately flopped his bony little toe across it. Who is going to win? Who has the most courage? (Dobson)
Strict Father at work.
Great diary.
One of the most important things I learned from my Dad was that children spell love T.I.M.E., not “quality time” which is an excuse for not spending enough time with your child, just time in which the agenda is the child. The only one of your four contrasting models that encompasses this is the Nurturing Parent model. The point of parenting isn’t that one’s child be happy or productive in school and by extension the economy, the point of parenting is to produce a good human being capable of justice and transcendence. We are not born that way. We’re born innocent and totally self-centered. Good parenting transcends both conditions.
Your comment reminds me of a focus group I did with urban teenagers a few years ago. When we asked them about what caused them stress in their life, almost unanimously they said it was the fear that they wouldn’t be able to “make it” with a job and being able to provide for themselves. This was urban teenagers – and they didn’t name things like drugs, sex, violence, etc. – the things we usually think they struggle with. We’ve taught them well that the purpose of their life was to be cogs in our economic engine. And they were feeling it.
I lost most of my family when I was seven and even before that happened my father survived a really bad head injury. There has been so much sorting out of what is usable that my dad has been able to give me and what isn’t but God…….even under these horrible circumstances my father did such a much better job on 100 different fronts than anybody using the (shudder) Lakoff method (feeling bile rising!). It’s horrible. It is everything that I despise….and raising children in this fashion is training someone to imprison their own minds as well as their own being. The neighborhood bully was picking on my step brother one day and I was so damn sick of that kid picking on my brother. He was a year older than I was but damn it, I had had it. When I stood up to him he took off running. I remembered all of the times he had terrorized my younger step brother and the next thing I knew I was running after him…..how could he have terrorized so many so often and be such a coward, now I was really pissed. He was finally cornered and I stood there with my hands on hips. He grabbed a broom and tried to whack me with the handle. I caught the end of it and pulled it really hard toward me. Threw him off balance and he was stumbling toward me but he was still much bigger and stronger than I was in reality and he was really scared. He threw a wild punch and hit right above my left eye. The skin split neatly right over my brow bone, blood in my eye. What the hell had I done? Didn’t I know that I must be afraid of all men….I am a lowly woman! Seven blue stitches. My pediatrician hadn’t heard the story yet and was sewing me up and jokingly said, “We told you you shouldn’t fight with boys.” I thought he was serious, I thought he knew and I sighed and said “I know”. He stopped dead just startled and said “You got this fighting with a boy?!” I could tell he was confused and sad and yet kind of delighted all at the same time. My father took me to breakfast Saturday morning at the crack of dawn to eat with all of his construction buddies. They all had to take a peak at my blue stitches and whistle under their breath. My dad was so proud that his daughter would stand up to the neighborhood bully I thought he would bust. I love this about my father. He loved me so much he never ever wanted me to live as someone’s underling or live in fear of someone and attempt to alter my very being because of that fear. Today, after reading this, I really really love my dad flaws and all!
Tracy, you don’t know how many times, as I’ve read your diaries and comments on parenting, I’ve wanted to find a way to bottle up your passion, strength, wisdom and compassion and mainline it to those who haven’t found it in themselves yet. Oh, if it were only that easy.
Funny thing about losing your family when you are so young and having a father with a head injury…..you become one of the few people who can usually easily get to talk to professionals in your field while growing up. Some of us graduated into adulthood knowing strange terms like “family systems” and others of us not so lucky grew up believing they were born into a prison and they would die in it, and some sadly do. It is people like you though who have taught me how to do all that sorting with my father so that I can harvest all of his jewels that he gave me. He did the best he could…..I carry myself the rest of the way now.
This was just absolutely beautiful. I mean that from the depth of my heart.
My Dad was a policeman. (My son is one now.) Your comment made me remember something that’s precious to me. Before my dad became the Chief of Police he was a Patrolman and as such worked different shifts. When I was 10 or so, one night about 3AM, he came home, woke me up, took me in the police car out into the country around our little town where we were away from the street lights and showed me Telstar, a communications balloon that was a first, orbiting the earth. We watched it from horizon to horizon. Then he took me home, I went back to sleep and had a memory that moves me to this day. Kids need to know their parents give a shit about them. There’s only one way to do it, and it invovlves action rather than words.
Fantastic diary, the strict father figure model seems to be a time saving device which is shortsighted in that the childs survival skills suffer after his release from childhood or parole whatever term the strict model uses. We can see these poor people being manipulated all their lives by politicians stressing trust and discipline without debate. Unable to trust there own instincts because all logic and ability to debate without fear was beaten out of them at an early age. Strict model sucks I enjoy debating my kid on the rules anyway. Although being a one child parent I do have more time. Bottom line “Do no harm.” should be the first rule of parenting.