When Admiral Stockdale opened his remarks in the 1992 Vice-Presidential debate with “Who am I? Why am I here?” it became a joke. But, it’s a question I have been asking about myself and about the whole progressive netroots movement. What are we trying to do? I know there isn’t one single answer to that question. We are not all here for the same reasons. We don’t all share the same political goals. Some of us would be satisfied to go back to the days of Bill Clinton. After all, those were prosperous and peaceful times. Crime went down every year. Abortion rates declined every year. The budget deficit was erased and we started paying down the debt.
But, I am not satisfied with going back to Clintonism, and I don’t think the blogosphere should be setting that as its goal. I think we should aim higher and then maybe we can settle for Clintonism if we can’t reach our goal.
Our country is facing big problems that require radically new thinking. I don’t want to go back to standard FDR/LBJ liberalism, either. Demographic and generational inequities alone preclude a return to policies that worked while the Baby Boom was in the work force.
We are living in a new era that requires new thinking. Some of that thinking involves making tough concessions that things that used to work no longer will. A medical program that would have been affordable in the sixties cannot be sustained in an era of prescription drugs. Europe’s social programs are going to come under enormous strain as their population ages and is not replaced with workers to pay for their elderly’s benefits.
The old fossil fuel based economy is not sustainable. Globalization is putting huge pressures on our manufacturing base. We need forward thinking. But, now, more than ever, we need progressive thinking, too.
How do we provide basic affordable health care to all Americans when the cost of aging is soaring and the workforce is shrinking? How do we expand opportunity to young Americans when foreign competition is driving down wages and exporting good jobs?
For me, it all starts with making smart choices about how our government spends its money. We can’t ask our workers to pay for every aging man’s Viagra. And, we especially can’t afford to do so if we will not, at least, negotiate for lower prices for Viagra. We can’t afford to spend 4% of our GDP on our military. We can’t spend $10 billion a month in Iraq, and billions more to protect the homeland against reprisals.
The true costs of our medical care (and other entitlements) and our empire are disguised because we are not paying for them. We are borrowing the money from our children, at interest. We are selling off our country and our future to try to control the Middle East and to give our middle-aged men hard-ons.
The real problems the country and the world face are being ignored while we fight pseudo wars about evolution and the existence of global warming, and the nature of homosexuality, and the morality of abortion. Instead of coming together to tackle really difficult issues, we find ourselves fighting a rearguard action to protect what we thought we had already gained: women’s rights, the franchise for African-Americans, science in public education.
It’s not enough to go back to the divisive days of Clintonism. All these problems got worse, not better, under his watch. He may have slowed the progress of the reactionary trend in American society, but he did not stop its march.
It was under Clinton that the media was deregulated and the right gained an institutional advantage that tilted the national dialogue to the right. The media stopped covering joblessness, poverty and homelessness, as they had done with Reagan and Papa Bush. Pressure mounted to kill off LBJ legacies like Welfare and Affirmative Action. Seventies-style feminism went from being en vogue to being a fringe radical position. Liberalism and progressivism were abandoned in the White House and, thus, relegated to the extreme of the national debate.
In one sense, traditional liberalism succumbed to greater forces, both economic and demographic. But the principles, if not the specific programs, of liberalism still have mass appeal. Americans still believe that people should have access to health care, that they should make a living wage for a hard day’s work, that the sick and needy should not be left to fend for themselves, that quality education is a basic right, that discrimination based on race or gender is wrong. Increasingly, America is coming around to the idea that discrimination based on sexual preference is wrong.
At its base, progressivism is not an adherence to any single program or way of doing things, but a dedication to providing for the basic needs and sustanence of everyone, while expanding the opportunities for everyone. ‘No Child Left Behind’ is a progressive idea.
Progressive politics has become marginalized. And, more than any other factor, it is the media that is responsible for the marginalization. The progressive blogosphere should make it one of its primary goals to counter the media spin that distorts what progressivism is all about.
But, in addition to the media, Washington has also become increasingly dominated by corporate lobbyists, and both parties find it absolutely necessary to cave into these lobbyists in order to raise the funds they need to campaign. So, the second thing the progressive blogosphere needs to do is find and fund its own candidates that will forego corporate donations and ignore their lobbyists.
The third thing we need to do is start getting to work on coming up with new progressive policies that fit into our new world and new fiscal restraints. We can’t afford to just create astronomically expensive new entitlements for people. We can’t even afford the entitlements that already exist. Jerome a Paris’s energy initiative is a great example of the kind of work we need to be doing to find progressive third-way solutions to our problems.
So “Who am I? Why am I here?” We’re here to change things, not go backwards. It’s people-powered politics. We can make progressive politics mainstream again and provide new leadership. It’s not about just getting Democrats elected. It’s important that we get a new kind of Democrat elected.
We’re here to level the media playing field, to provide a source of non-corporate funding, and to come up with non-corporate reform legislation. We can do this, but we cannot allow the bright lights of fame and insider access to derail us or co-opt us in the task.
You’re serious about this stuff, aren’t you? ;o)
I’m likeing your words lately Booman, and this one is no different. Sounds like the next in the series type post.
I’m still not clear on how I feel overall about the impact that YearlyKos had in the big picture. But I do recognize one thing good about it. It made (apparently) a lot of traditional media types very uncomfortable, and even in some cases almost resentful. That is definetily a good thing. Because they need to be shaken up. They need to be looking over their shoulders.
Post this at DKos too my friend.
An inspiring diary, Booman. I’ll save it to read again and again when I’m discouraged and down in the dumps.
Sorry Booman, you don’t know what you are talking about here.
This . . .
. . . is Joe Klein-style reasoning — “social security” or “labor unions” or whatever are “dinosaurs” not suitable for the “information age.” Most of the hand-wringing about the “unsustainable” European social model is just more right-wing BS filtered through the punditocracy which you need to stop repeating uncritically.
Any evidence for this? Not really. In reality, Europe’s social programs are going to do just fine. There are any number of ways that Europe can sustain its welfare state, from increasing the working age population through increased immigration and by eliminating barriers to women and older workers who wish to join the workforce, to broadening the tax base to put less of the financing burden onto workers. Some countries like Sweden have already gone well down this path, others have further to go.
Here in the US the challenges for progessive economic and social policy are to (1) maintain full employment, (2) increase worker voice in firm management and economic policy-making, and, yes, (3) make our welfare state more universal and generous and family-friendly.
This is the tried and true way to ensure a dynamic and prosperous economy with social justice. If anybody out there has a better plan, I’m all ears, but I’m skeptical that you can come up with anything. Except for (1) Europe does these things better than we do (and no, high European unemployment is NOT caused by strong labor unions and generous welfare spending) and we need to move in that direction.
For those interested many of us have been extensively debating such issues over at European Tribune.
well, maybe I should have added “if they don’t make some changes” but the point is still the same.
Yes, but you have to be careful because there are lots of interest groups that would dearly love to drown the European social model (and any other social model out there) in the bathtub, so we don’t need to add any more fuel to the fire. Sure Europe needs a tune-up, but that’s far from saying that the labor movement or the welfare state is doomed to the ashheap of history, or that progressives in the US can’t learn from and build on Europe’s successes as well as failures.
The US spends considerably more on healthcare than Europe does, yet its public health is demonstrably inferior as well as distributed in an appallingly unjust manner.
If progressive Democrats need a vision, I as an outsider would recommend this: Gut the military-industrial-congressional complex already and introduce decent healthcare for all. At least for every child. For shame!
Put this choice to the American people: Healthcare or missile defense? Healthcare or wars of choice? Healthcare or arms race with China?
If America is sane, that can’t go wrong.
I’ve seen getting back to the Clinton-era standards as a starting point. A point where a lot of things are stable enough so that we can work on a lot of the bigger long term issues that this administration refuses to address or even acknowledge. Going backwards, time wise, to the Clinton years would be progress from now.
It’s not about just getting Democrats elected. It’s important that we get a new kind of Democrat elected. – I must say I absolutely love this way of thinking, but it is a divisive one within this Progressive movement of ours.
Well, the main reason I’m here started out to be to help me find people who can help me get my country back.
Two things are becoming increasingly obvious, though. First is, I can’t have my country back. That ship has sailed. There were good things about it, but not everything about the past was good.
The other, though, is giving me hope. I’ve found people who can help me make my country better than it was, if we just get a chance to do it, by funding education from pre-K through at least a bachelor’s degree or trade certificate. By funding universal basic health care. By funding public transportation and alternative energy research. By making sure none of us goes hungry. By making the country secure through ceasing to be a threat to other countries and turning the military into a self-defense force instead of the world’s biggest combination playground bully and playground monitor. You know the drill.
Maybe this makes me a socialist. If so, fine. I guess that’s who I am, and what I’m doing here.
The republicans have been shooting for Christian Theologism, A government small enough to drown in a bathtub, no taxes and unfettered free markets unrestrained by regulation etc.
They have not come even remotely close to this but on the Christian theology front we’ve never been closer. The government is bigger than ever, Tax cuts have been enacted for the rich and the markets are not as free as they’d like but they are pretty damn unrestrained.
Republicans set the bar high and as a result they got further towards their goals than they ever would have than if they had just proposed the compromise they have now.
Democrats need to learn to shoot for the moon, every time, all the time. It’s what the republicans have been doing forever.
Instead we have to have this measured approach and keep-your-powder-dryism, sure recipes for at best mediocrity and at worst, utter failure.
There’s no such thing as Clintonism. Clinton was the rare charismatic individual who could get away with what most others cannot (but who had to test that ability beyond its limits in the end). An “ism” suggests an ideology or set of ideas. I can’t think of a single one of those in “Clintonism”. Yeah, it would be nice if the dems/left could come up with another charismatic who wasn’t a complete sociopath, but that’s irrelevant. Clinton offers no path toward anything. Neither, I think, does his wife.
Clinton could have pushed through a much more humane, pragmatic, and progressive agenda. He chose instead to waste his edge on junk like don’t ask don’t tell and no child left behind, as well as enabling a huge increase in the security state.
I have no interest in debating Clinton’s legacy. I’m going on about it because I think we waste our time and energy looking for lessons in his career. It makes about as much sense as a baseball team devoting itself to figuring out Babe Ruth’s diet — Ruth was one of a kind, like Clinton. Now it’s time to move on.
That said, your agenda looks good, Boo. I just tend to bridle at any suggesting of preemptive accomodation with the right and the numbnuts middle. Any salesman will tell you that first you sell the prospect on the car, and once they’re hooked you bargain if you must. You don’t start out giving away the store.
It’s a thoughtful diary but it makes assumptions I don’t agree with or perhaps doesn’t ask enough hard questions. Like why is the price of drugs so high? Why does Big Pharma insist we all need these drugs? Why do some people think of the Clinton years as a high-water mark when it was just reaganism in a different dress? Why are these social programs considered an “astronomical” expense when a lot of other ridiculous programs are OKed?
Sorry I’m really not a debater, more of a questioner.
I always say: Reagan made me a Buddhist and Clinton made me a socialist.
Well, Booman, I agree with what I think your message is, especially that it’s not good enough to go back to the Clinton policies, but I disagree with some of the underlying assumptions it’s built on, specifically about what we can and cannot “afford.”
How can we, in one breath, say there are too many old people and not enough young people while turning away immigrants begging for work? How can we say we can’t afford to pay for healthcare when we spend more than any other nation? When our healthcare, insurance, and pharmaceutical industries are among the richest in the world? None of it makes any sense.
The only questions are — is there enough food to feed everyone? Are there enough resources to shelter everyone? Are there enough people to do the required labor? Is there enough medicine to treat the sick? Are there enough smart people we could train as doctors and nurses? Do we have the resources, the talent, the knowledge, skills, and people?
The answers are yes — we only lack the political will to allow everyone in to the system and share the wealth. I know this seems like a new era that requires new thinking, but it is not. It’s the same old story of the powerful and greedy hoarding the wealth and power. The answers, as they have throughout history, will lie in putting restraints on the powerful, not in trying to frighten and squeeze more from the powerless.
We need to start telling people there’s enough. This is not true of actual resources such as oil, but we will be unable to find solutions and continue to have wars over these dwindling resources until our leaders stop preaching the rhetoric of zero-sum games and limited slices of pie, and start preaching about mutual cooperation for the benefit of all.
I know you meant it as a joke but, honestly, there is enough Viagra for everyone.
VERY well said. It’s about priorities and definitions. Our current insistance on neo-liberal economic policies and a large military/police infrastructure are CHOICES that this culture made … they aren’t something natural or immutable.
From a review of my brother’s book, The Empty Cradle.
We can’t afford what we already have. The Medicare presciption drug program was the death blow. There is no telling how much of the budget that will eat up in twenty years, but it could eventually be more than half of it.
We can’t afford to pay for people’s viagra, we’ll have a hard enough time paying for their blood pressure medication and dialysis.
Yes, I read that before and, all due respect, I think your brother couldn’t be more wrong. I understand what he’s saying, I just think in a world that’s over, not under, populated, it’s obscene to argue about declining birthrates in “certain” populations.
Those in power seem content to talk about globalization when it comes to them making a profit from third-world labor rates, but then they also want to lock able-bodied people out of our countries where they might be treated with some fairness.
Your brother has identified some real problems. However, I think these exist because of the way we have things set-up, not because certain sorts of people aren’t breeding. The answer should not to be to encourage “us” to out-breed “them,” but to change the system.
I just spent two nights arguing with my brother about his ideas, some of which I find offensive.
But, let’s be realistic. The only way for America and Europe to sustain entitlement programs for the elderly is to have more workers. And immigration causes the majority population to get nervous, reactionary, and violent even at the levels we are experiencing now. It’s all fine to say “just let the third world in to fill all the jobs”. In real life, that causes serious problems.
Europe is already getting indigestion over its Muslim population and we are already freaking out about Hispanics. Could we get over it? Yeah, in some other planet, or utopia. The world’s population will begin dropping soon, but it’s not the absolute numbers that are most important. It’s the generational distribution.
I can’t pronounce on the US situation, but BooMan is right about Europe. In Norway, research shows that participation in the workforce among immigrants from many third world tends to decrease with time spent in the country.
One study from last year covering all 173,613 adult immigrants between 1956-96 with special emphasis on the last four years found that after 17 years in the country, non-Western immigrants are more dependent on welfare benefits than recently arrived refugees. After 25 years in the country, half of non-Western immigrants receive some form of welfare assistance.
The reports concludes that, if these trends continue, immigration will intensify rather than allievate the demographic problem of an ageing workforce.
Source (in Norwegian)
A fresh study published last month confirms these findings. As the ratio of immigrants in the population doubles around 2015, the proportion of employed is projected to drop by seven percent. This corresponds to a financial loss equal to all of the nation’s oil wealth (current savings approximating USD 250 billion).
Denmark has more third world immigrants and an even lower workforce participation ratio. There one think tank conservatively estimates their fiscal contribution to society at minus 30-50 billion kroner per year (GNP: 187 billion kroner.)
The experts conclude that the sort of immigrants the economy needs — highly educated ones — do not arrive. Those who arrive are mostly poorly educated, and tend to remain so even though higher education is free. Key factors are the relatively high wages for blue collar work, the relatively high wages for white collar work, the high taxes and the generous welfare arrangements.
Source (in Norwegian)
I might add that social exclusion based on racism and xenophobia can’t account for all of this. Immigrants from certain third world countries, such as the Phillipines and Sri Lanka, have higher workforce participation even than the natives. There is considerable systematic variation depending on country of origin, even within the male demographic, which also suggests a cultural/ethnic factor at play.
Read: relatively low wages for white collar work.
immigration causes the majority population to get nervous, reactionary, and violent even at the levels we are experiencing now.
I believe that a big part of this is that we’re constantly being told by our leaders and our media that there is not enough — not enough money, not enough jobs, not enough resources. And the “evidence” that most people see in their daily lives supports this — people are struggling. Any time people are told there’s not enough to survive, they’re going to turn on each other and fight for what there is.
I think you’re right that the way the system currently is, the way things are, the problems you’re predicting will come to pass. In my opinion the way to change that is to change some things about the system. The way to start that ball rolling is to change the narrative about what the problems and solutions are.
Is it utopian to tell people there’s enough for everyone? Is it utopian to tell people we’re all in this together? I don’t think so any more than I think it’s utopian to say that all people are created equal. Let’s be realistic — if we want to come up with a liberal or progressive solution to our situation, we need to look at the problems from a liberal viewpoint. To do that, we need to step back from the conservative narrative, not reinforce it.
The problem with my brother’s thinking is not neccesarily that he is wrong, but that there no way to prevent what he is predicting that is consistent with liberal ideas about individual rights, limited government, and basic liberty.
Demographers have a deep way of thinking that is hostile to the individual and is hostile to the idea that the free exchange of ideas moves history.
I wouldn’t be surprised if my brother would predict that in 300 years this country will be made up of majority Mormons, with LDS as the state religion. And he has data and history to show why.
But, what can we do about it? In San Fran there are 80% more dogs than children, in Salt Lake City there are 80% more children than dogs. Liberals are literally being outbred, and the ability to convert Mormons, to liberal secular ideas that protect minority rights, at that pace…at a pace faster than they can convert our immigrants, is not likely.
George Bush is still polling in the 60’s in Utah. That could be our future. I just have no idea what to do about it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if my brother would predict that in 300 years this country will be made up of majority Mormons, with LDS as the state religion. And he has data and history to show why.
LOL — I think Jon Krakauer predicted exactly that in Under the Banner of Heaven!
In any case, I think you’re correct that it’s a difficult situation to see your way out of, and I don’t claim to know all the answers by any means.
What I suspect, based on my experiences and from reading about conservative times in history, is that we don’t make people into liberals, we give them opportunity and they become more liberal. This is part of the reason I feel strongly about basing our platform on bread and butter economic issues without falling into some of the pitfalls of populism. It’s a difficult balance to strike.
What I know for a fact is that people will vote their survival over their fears and superstions. What I also know is that people desperately need hope. Even closed-minded, fanatical people will respond to both of those things.
Wasn’t your brother one of those who was arguing that “social security is doomed”?
Doesn’t inspire confidence in any of the rest of his predictions.
Let’s see what progressive social scientists have to say about these issues:
Washington Post: Aging Population Poses Global Challenges
Max Sawicky: DON’T PANIC!
America’s Golden Years: Ensuring prosperity in an aging society
So can we knock off all this hysteria about how the rich world is necessarily going to run off into a demographic ditch?
Another point to be made is, when considering the affordability of social programs, what we are really worried about is not the dependency ratio — the ratio of workers to retirees and children.
Of course, when birthrates slow down, we will have fewer workers per retiree in the future, but we will also have more workers per children in the even nearer future.
What does this mean for the US? Here’s a UN prediction from 1998:
The dependency ratio in the US is predicted to rise from around 50% now to 65% by 2050 when the youngest baby boomer will be 86 years old.
That is equivalent to saying that the number of workers per child/retiree is going to fall from 2:1 to 1.5:1 over the next 50 years or so.
That by itself does not seem to be an insurmountable problem.
But, we also have to remember that the workers of 2050 will be far more productive than the workers of today are.
How much more productive would they have to be to compensate for a 30% increase in the dependency ratio? Each worker would have to be 1/3 more productive in 2050. That translates into an annual productivity growth rate of about 0.6% per year — about four times lower than the rate of labor productivity growth experienced by the US economy over the last decade.
If labor productivity growth instead increases by 2% per year (about the historical average), then workers in 2050 will be 169% more productive than today’s workers. And, even though there will only be 1.5 actual workers per child/retiree in 2050, taking into account productivity growth means that there will be the equivalent of four current workers per child/retiree in 2050.
So all of this demographic hysteria needs to be seen for the bullshit that it is. Social spending is going to be more affordable, not less, as long as we continue to make the public and private investments that ensure a high level of future productivity growth.
Edit — first sentence should read:
Another point to be made is, when considering the affordability of social programs, what we are really worried about is not [simply the ratio of workers to retirees, but rather] the dependency ratio — the ratio of workers to retirees and children.
As long as we allow the big business interests in the fields of energy, weapons & war, medicine & health care, and environmentally unsustainable consumerism to have the keys to the national treasury we will not be able to develop a society rooted in the fundamental “a rising tide lifts all boats” principle that is at the absolute core of any real progressive philosophy.
Clinton could still be president today; the Bush interregnum could not have existed at all, and the systems that undergird the status quo of our socio-economic situation would still be unsustainable, and still progressively worsening, (maybe not as quickly as they are under BushCo, but worsening nonetheless.
I’m coming a bit late to this discussion, but I believe that this point does not go far enough. The major problems with our current political system will never be solved until we completely change the funding process and implement voter-owned elections, i.e., public funding for campaigns. I’ve been encouraged to hear a host of different politicians and policy-wonks speak of the need for voter-owned elections just in recent weeks.
Running candidates from the blogosphere in voter-owned elections – now there’s something to shoot for!