I’ve been a little tied up with “real world” stuff this past couple of weeks and missed out on some great diaries here. I checked out Man Without A Counties piece on Peak Blogging and there was an interesting discussion in the comments about the immigrant’s rights marches and the fact that the organizing of those marches had no real blog or internet component. How they managed to put millions in the streets through radio and how “none of the demonstrators in Chicago, Los Angeles, and elsewhere ever even heard of Daily Kos or any of the other blogs, let alone read them or participated.”
I figured y’all might be interested in how the organizing was really done. A little secret, that through dumb luck on my part, I’m somewhat privy to.
The notion that the immigration marches were fueled through Latino radio is somewhat of a misnomer that I believe came about because the MSM missed the whole story until it happened and figured the “media” component must have been something traditional … hence they stressed the importance of Latino radio. Although they played a large role, the radio stations came quite late to the party and played a much larger role in motivating than organizing.
In fact a large percentage of the organizing was done online.
Here’s how it was done … at least the online component.:
Weeks before the marches the national organizers would set up websites… giving out minimal info, a date and a time for one or two rallies. But the important part was that they would ask for volunteers to be local organizers. Over the following weeks one by one local grassroots efforts would join in. They would post up all the information about local rallies and include the contact info for each of the local cities organizers. E-mail addresses, websites, even home phone numbers were included in the info. One by one all the various marches and rallies joined the list.
From there the effort branched out. Graphics were posted up for posters and signs in English, Spanish, some in Korean or Chinese for many of the individual marches and rallies. These are the signs many of us saw in shop windows and on lampposts.
The next step was spreading the word. Much of it was done by e-mail, text messaging, blogs and through Myspace. Myspace was huge. Many of the children of immigrants, communicating through Myspace got the info to interpret for their parents. In fact the school walkouts were organized exclusively with a combination of Myspace and text messaging.
That’s how everyone knew to wear white, where to meet, what time, the march route … it was e-mailed, blogged or Mypsaced across the internet.
By the time the radio stations got in the show, the show was already on. They played a big role in reaching many, but they were not the driving force behind this stuff.
I know this all because I watched it unfold.
Before the first march in Chicago in early March, about a week before to be exact, I noticed tons of traffic coming to my site from Chicago. All of it going to a page that explained HR4437 (it was just dumb luck, because since no one was really covering the issue at that time, I ended up being on the top of the 1st page of a Google search for “HR4437”). I went from 50 hits a week to 300 a day. In fact the Wednesday before the march I told met wife that something bizarre was going on in Chicago,but I didn’t know what. Until the march happened.
After that I started watching this stuff. Watching to see who was hitting the site and from where. A few days before the LA march on 3/25, I stumbled on the organizing site and started posting up their info. I put up a front page with their graphic and listed all the march info. During that period my blog traffic went crazy looking for info on HR4437 or the march. This is how I found out about the Myspace link. Kids all over were sending links from my site to their friends. Sometimes up to a hundred an hour.
The same thing repeated itself during the big National protest days, first on April 10, and then culminating in the May 1 Boycott. In fact for that one the organizers contacted me through e-mail weeks in advance to see if I would post up their info and list the various protests and contact info. Since I was already showing up on google searches due to all the linkage from the LA marches and was getting close to 2000 hits a day leading up to that march, they figured I could help spread the word. So my blog became part of their “network”
They managed to set up this network within a few weeks that allowed people to google up “immigration march yourcityname” or “el gran paro” and get back numerous sites with the info they needed to participate in the rallies and marches. They were very tech savvy that way, they followed the linkages, they watched the search engines and site meters, and they knew how to work the internet to their advantage. They knew how to target their message.
So it was all pretty much a matter of dumb luck on my part, but it allowed me to see first hand how this whole movement worked and was organized. It was amazing and totally grassroots based … I mean can you imagine people posting up their home phones and saying “call me if you want info” … well they did, and it worked.
There is also a huge network of Latino blogs, many in Spanish, some in English, some in both. A lot of them are not political, but rather plain old personal blogs, but covered this stuff from day one and did much to spread the word. Again, I found these by tracing back links to see where I was getting hits from.
I guess my point for writing all this is that for progressives the rallies can teach us very important lessons. This movement provided a blueprint for organizing real world events through a combination of both old and NEW technology. We can learn much from how this movement operates.
For me it was pretty amazing to watch … even if much of the watching was done through a computer screen.
thanks.
Sounds like there was a whole LOT more action than there was talk. I like that. Thanks for this, Duke.
was that the organizers were dealing with a VERY highly motivated group. They needed to only to disseminate information and organize action. What they didn’t have to do was cajole, motivate, or convince people that action was needed or that this particular action was the right method to achieve their goal. At least up through the April 10th marches.
The May 1 Boycott was a different story. It had some opposition from some immigrant’s rights groups and took a little time to pick up stream. BUT … the grassroots effort went on anyway, and when it reached critical mass, and it was evident that the event was not just going to happen, but was going to be HUGE , the opposition groups came on board.
One ironic reason I think the Boycott was kept alive during the time when there was debate between the different groups about whether it was an effective action was the fact that the MSM had picked up the story and all their hype about the boycott gave it added life. Every night when Lou Dobbs bitched about nerve of the immigrants to be marching, and how dare they now plan an economic boycott, he was only helping to make the boycott a reality. There was great division in the groups, and there was a chance that it would not have succeeded, but thanks to Lou and the rest of the MSM outrage and fear mongering the boycott idea gained more and more steam.
Duke, This is a brilliant little post, maybe the most important one we’ve had here all year.
It’s early in the morning (for me) and I haven’t had enough coffee, so maybe I’m duller than usual. But let me suggest it might be helpful (to me at least) if you added an addendum that attempts to condense the main steps and put them into a numbered list (A Dummies Guide To Real Organizing).
As I was reading your post, I kept thinking: the reason this worked is that so many people are REALLY motivated, because they REALLY understand what HR4437 is about. Thus, I’m very pleased to see you make exactly that comment.
In the midst of the daily political buzz, and the daily scandals and outrages and injustices of the Bush regime, it’s sometimes hard to discriminate the really deadly threats. HR4437 is one of those, as I’ve done my own best to scream about. I had an article on a publication with a circulation of tens of thousands, for example, and I like to think that did a little to help the protests.
Let me suggest that another very important factor that contributed to the success of the rallies, by informing millions of people about the grave seriousness of the threat, was the role of the Catholic Church. Cardinal Mahoney in Los Angeles, and Cardinal McCarrick in Washington, were VERY VERY VERY vocal about HR4437, and their concern flowed down to great masses of people through thousands of churches. If one could have taken a survey of the demonstrators across the country, I would bet at least half of them would have credited this as a major reason why they were informed and concerned.
Cool about Myspace and texting. I used to be super up-to-date, even founded a profitable little Internet company for awhile. But the world is passing me by . . .
Thanks Arminius. You’re absolutely right about Mahoney. His support not only gave the cause gravitas and credability but for many was the motivating factor.
The immigrants rights network was well established prior to the marches. By Dec. 18th, the day after 4437 passed, there was already a huge outcry against it and numerous organizations were putting out the word and educating peopel to exactly what the bill meant. So the organizers already had a infrastructure to rely on.
BUT it was the organizers ability to get information out quickly,effectively and most importantly under the radar, that made the first few marches so very effective. The media and the American people were taken totally by surprise when those first rallies took place. Brilliant …simply brilliant.
Agreed. Amazing use of the power of technology to mobilize.
Unfortunately it also brings to mind Florida in 2000 where the RW used the same tactics (without the SMS or MySpace) to get boots on the ground after the election.
The power can be used for good and for ill. But I love the fact that the kids were interpreting not only the issues at hand, but the methods of communicating for their parents. that’s fantastic.
the kids played a pivotal in getting out the word. Especially about 4437. Most if not all the information and analysis of the bill was done in English. It was left to the kids to translate and explain the situation.
They were also unbelievably motivated. In comments section of my blog (some of which I later had to hide when wingers came in with really ugly racial shit) the kids were furious. They knew that 4437 meant that their parents were targets. If you think maryscott can rant…you ain’t seen nothing. Tell a child or young adult that after years of hard work and keeping their noses clean, that now the Gov’t wanted to make their parents criminals and hunt them down … now that leads to some REAL angry rant.
Duke, you should hear the rant in Spanish. You haven’t heard anything until you’ve heard a ten minute rant from a 17 year old on immigration policy in (often profane) Spanish. Never heard so many putas in my life!
Nothing conveys rage better sometimes than a little salty Spanish. The language is rich in pejorative and double entendre. And then there are all the regional curse words, many very humorous. I love a good rant in Spanish.
You know what?
I think this should stay our little secret.
Let the MSM think everything was organized through DJs spreading the word. That’s fine with me. Because you see, if we have a way to organize and mobilize that’s invisible to the people outside of the blogosphere, we can use it again.
And personally, I would like to see a million people in the street once in a while. Maybe eventually someone will figure out how to motivate those million people to let the oligarchs know who’s really supposed to be in charge of this country.
Two million. Three. Four. More.
That’s what it will probably take. And it can be done.
I’m OK with that.
In fact I was thinking of something really fun, like a wildcat general strike. Can you imagine a few million people getting a text message that says NOW and walking off the job, all over the country? Betcha that would make the papers.
That would be awesome. But logistically really freakin’ hard to pull off. An automated system could do it, but then you run the risk of the telco’s getting word of it and having a ‘network blackout’ when the messages are supposed to get through… they’re businesses too and they would have a very real financial incentive to keep people on the job.
It is a great idea to keep kicking around tho… perhaps a combination of instant messaging and SMS (i.e. text), organized through a central website… but then you get into volume and timing issues… hmmm… also, if it was going to be on a mass scale, unless you had each person commit to SMS 10 people at once at a specified time you’d run into privacy issues with people not wanting to post their #’s online…
Lots of things to think about… let’s keep doing it. 🙂
True, the logistics need to be thought about and maybe a trial run or two where people just acknowledge the message instead of taking action. I do know that sending an SMS message is as easy as sending an email to a properly formatted address, because I do that for myself all the time. What I don’t know is what happens when you try to send two million of those emails to Verizon customers, for instance, all at once.
It does bear consideration and possible modification. That, however, doesn’t threaten me. I am OK with people grabbing my ideas and running with them, especially if they’ll bring about some benificient change in this country.
well… if you do it all the time perhaps you’re the perfect guinea pig to test Verison’s system… 😉
Heh. But I’m not a Verizon customer. I just pulled their name out of a hat. 🙂
I know how to do it for my cell phone. I can do it for other people on my own network, but I need their mobile phone number, of course. (And my phone is set up for AIM as well as SMS, but I never use the AIM function. Other people might, though, and somewhere out on the Internet there will be a page or two hundred explaining how.)
pull off in our community because we react to all the threats that the “mainstream” give us. Saying that boycotts won’t work, saying that you will lose your job, saying that there will be retaliation, gives us new meaning to the word courage and what courage the boycotters had to have had.
Then there are the putdowns from within our own sterling community.
There is a group trying to set something up for October 5th.
Go here to read more about it.
Sorry bud, it ain’t a secret, it’s Internet marketing 101 using social networking sites… this would make a great case study tho’ for how it can really work.
But… and there is always a but… Arminius makes a great point about the Catholic Churches. I would wager it was probably a combination of the adults hearing about the issue on the street, wanting more info, and their kids saying… let me Google it and find out. And the kids then spreading the word out to others across the country.
Great results regardless.
That’s not the part that’s the secret, though. See, I’m a great believer in George Carlin’s much-simplified adage about synergy and capitalism: “You take two things that have never been nailed together before, and nail them together, and some shmuck will buy it from you for a dollar.” In this case the secret is the synergy that was created by combining Internet marketing with direct action politics. Stir in a little meatspace social networking, and ding! We have a winner.
Now it may not be a secret to you and me, but there are still an awful lot of people out there who haven’t yet quite caught up to this Internet thing. To them, it’s a secret. They’ll probably figure it out eventually, but by then, we’ll have leapfrogged them again somehow.
BINGO…..as the song says; “a little less talk, and a lot more action” ; )
peace….it’s no secret, just dumbed down…
Good to see you around, my friend.
It wasn’t a secret to me, Duke. (By the way, I’m recommending this diary, and this is NOT an attack on you!)
First, I work with teenagers and I didn’t mention anything about MySpace–although I knew about it–because you addressed that through your comment on my diary (which forms the basis of your diary here).
We have a lot of gangs at our school, and I monitor the school group’s MySpace page to see if threats are being made online between rival gangs–which is how I got clued into the online organizing being done via MySpace.
Second, I didn’t say the organizers didn’t do it online, I said that the so-called “progressive blogosphere” got completely blindsided by these huge marches, did not report them before the fact, and had no part in organizing them, which proves they’re not plugged into the street action.
http://www2.boomantribune.com/story/2006/6/17/23552/2725
That’s me, commenting in my own diary. All of this activity was invisible, and remains invisible, on the blogs. Kos, for example, sneers at street marches–if he was truly an insurgent, he’d be hooking up with these people and giving them a voice through his blog. But that might scare off advertisers and the DLC candidates with big money, although I’m sure it would attract lots of new eyeballs to his site.
Thanks for this more detailed diary, which is very informative, but you made my diary sound like something very different than what it was, and I just wanted to set the record straight.
I agree with you that organizing can and should be done online–my question is, why isn’t it being done through the so-called “progressive blogosphere”? The hour is at hand–there are millions of people out there who have proven they are willing to take a risk for positive change (I never saw my Latino students as fired up about ANYTHING as I did about those marches, and we had some great discussions about politics in general).
I didn’t mean to slight your diary in the least … in fact it was great. And I wasn’t trying to misrepresent any of the comments. Your right about our end of the blogoshere being not only unaware of what was going on, but also in my opinion, in this case irrelevant. In fact I think if Kos or any of the main progressive sites had been involved it would have been detrimental to the cause.
But anyway I didn’t mean any of this as a slight on your diary, and your analysis was spot on. I just wanted to let people know there is a model for effective organizing through blogs and the Internet and that the media totally played down that aspect in it’s coverage.
If anything I mentioned your diary only because it inspired me and got me thinking about the whole thing.
I’m sorry if it appeared differently.
on just this. Some of the organizers were interviewed. Quite inspiring. I read the paper version, but I’ll see if I can find a link.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060619/lovato
“none of the demonstrators in Chicago, Los Angeles, and elsewhere ever even heard of Daily Kos or any of the other blogs, let alone read them or participated.”
I managed to march in Los Angeles on March 25 in spite of reading blogs.
I learned of the demonstration through a local community radio station – KPFK 90.7FM in Los Angeles – which gives considerable coverage to Latino issues, both in English and Spanish broadcasting. They made many announcements to publicize the event, and had a live broadcast from civic center, and interviews in Spanish and English.
Also, people were handing out flyers for the march at the Hollywood anti-war demonstration a week earlier.
Thanks for the diary.
I was amazed at the size of the crowd in Los Angeles (starting suffering from claustrophobia – on a four lane boulevard!), and disappointed that so few Los Angeles people on dKos knew about the event before hand.
There is a disconnect that needs to be overcome.
I’ve printed the Nation article to read later.
Great diary.
This is just the coolest thing I’ve read about young people. Myspace has come under so much bad publicity while the general public is really barely aware of the massive numbers and appeal of it to young people. Sort of like their secret weapon where they can go and hang out and get away from grownups.
I know I never would have heard of it except for the fact when my nephew was living with me over a year ago and he was on Myspace constantly as it is also a place for musicians like himself to set up sites for their bands for kids to listen to..(I say kids as he is 25, this isn’t just for teenyboopers).
You know I should have guessed that while what I had read here about Spanish radio, catholic church and Lou Dobbs doing a great job of getting immigrants and many of us who aren’t immigrants pissed off also, that there was some sort of big Internet component connecting everyone across the country that the MSM was completely unaware of-ha ha.
This is just the best feel good diary I’ve read in a long time-Viva young people or as most would say fucken awesome.
Great post Duke. This ought to be on the frong page. Excellent detective work.
Fwiw, there was a post at Washington Monthly three days ago, contrasting the top 10 stories from the NY Times being blogged about with the top 10 stories being emailed. There was no overlap.
Nothing wrong with blogs going their own way. Hell, the diary I just put up here is a story nobody’s even blogging about. But to make political activism work, bloggers need to acknowledge how little direct impact they normally have, and find ways to break out of the boundaries of the medium.
could you cross post this at MLW? i remember our milling about over there, confused about the early marches in chicago and LA, because we were getting murmurs of something but weren’t plugged into the networks that were planning them. any successful movement needs to be analyzed, and connections made, so that we can learn from and build upon it.
the kids are all right, eh?